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    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 3rd Jan 20, 5:24 PM
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    KonMari 2020 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying
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    • 3rd Jan 20, 5:24 PM
    KonMari 2020 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying 3rd Jan 20 at 5:24 PM
    At the request of MSE, I've been asked to start a new thread for KonMari for 2020. The previous one covered 2018-2019, plus there are links below to previous years.

    Here's the links to the old threads with thanks to VfM4meplse and greent

    2018-2019

    2017

    2016

    2015


    'The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up' by Marie Kondo is a home organisation/ decluttering book like no other. Instead of looking for things to discard, Marie Kondo says we should instead look for things we wish to keep - using the 'does it spark joy?' method. Ultimately this means that everything in our homes should spark joy for us You might not think that everyday and seemingly mundane items can't spark joy - but you need to think around it a little. So whilst an iron may not spark joy, wearing ironed clothes may. A cheese grater may not spark joy, but your child may really like grated cheese in their wraps - which brings joy.

    Marie Kondo also says that this should be done quickly and properly. This may take six months to achieve, but tidying properly should mean doing it just once. This is against the often-seen decluttering advice of doing 15 minutes a day, or a drawer/ shelf a day.

    MK suggests an order as to what to sort through first and subsequently. This is important - she starts with items which many people do not have an emotional attachment to (clothes) and builds up to sentimental items (photos) so that a person's joy-meter can be developed along the way.

    Many MSE-ers have been following the KM method (kondo-ing) successfully. It fits into the MSE ethos by changing your mindse - you will no longer want to shop mindlessly for something 'just because' or 'it'll do' - you will want to buy only joyful items, thereby often saving on random, impulse purchases.


    From the 2016 thread

    How/ Where Can I Dispose of My Unwanted Items?

    It is vitally important to make sure that you dispose of your unwanted items asap - less chance of any doubts creeping in and items making their way back!


    To make money and/ or save items from landfill, you may find the following ideas useful:

    Money Making:

    www.ebay.co.uk - am sure many will use this already. Be careful of fees - ebay now charge final value fees (FVF) on your postage as well as the amount which the items sells for.

    www.ziffit.com - can sell any unwanted books, CDs, DVDs & games. Download the app onto your smartphone/ tablet for ease of use - scan the barcodes and it will tell you if the item is accepted and what price they will give you. For even more money, go through a cashback site first (such as www.topcashback.co.uk or www.quidco.com) (tip: save your accepted items in your virtual 'cart'. If you have any items which they initially refuse, try re-scanning these several days later - I find about another 20-50% of previously unaccepted items go through on another attempt!)


    www.preloved.co.uk - Quidco are currently offering 60p to new members to Preloved (Jan 2016); plus you get 10p for posting a new advert. It's free to join and post adverts to Preloved, you can post things for sale or free to a good home so might be an alternative to eBay, free cycle, facebook selling pages to offload unwanted, unloved items. All free ads include a photo and private ads are completely free, no listing fees, no selling fees and no catches


    www.gumtree.com - free online classified ad site


    Recycling/ Reusing Items: (often raising funds for charities at the same time )

    Bras
    You can post them to the Breast Cancer charity here http://www.againstbreastcancer.org.uk/get-involved/fundraising/recycling/513/bra-recycling/ or you can go hand them in to a branch of Bravissimo.



    OR : raise funds for Nowzad Dogs - the only official animal charity in Afghanistan: http://www.nowzad.com/help-us/bras-for-nowzad/


    Unwanted pens
    You can post your unwanted pens to people overseas to help schools and orphanages via http://www.pensforkids.co.uk/how_you_can_help.html


    Ink jet Printer Cartridges
    Can be dropped off at Sue Ryder stores or posted off freepost for a charity from wide list or Tesco club card points for you via http://www.therecyclingfactory.com
    /our-partners/


    Books & Music
    British Heart Foundation and Oxfam both do specialist charity shops that sell books and music so you could separate those donations to maximise the money the charities make



    Postcards: can raise money for Great Ormond St children's hospital. http://www.gosh.org/fundraise-us/shopping-and-recycling/recycling-and-environment


    Stamps: GOSH also take all stamps, special and everyday, as do the RNIB http://www.rnib.org.uk/donations-and-fundraising-fundraising-your-community-recycle-us/used-stamps-appeal


    Maternity items/ baby & children's clothing/ nursery furniture/ toiletries/ nappies - a baby bank (like a food bank, but maternity and child related items for families in crisis) Lots springing up around the country. Some independent, some part of a small network. http://www.babybanknetwork.com/how-you-can-help-2/ www.gloucestershirebundles.org http://www.littlebundles.org.uk/cambridge/donations Up to date list can be found on stripey stork's website


    Toiletries/ make-up/ clothing (women's and children's) - women's refuge centres. Google your local area for one - but be prepared you may have to drop off to a 3rd party point - for obvious reasons they do not always want to publicise their location! Or post to : http://www.carolinehirons.com/p/give-and-makeup.html to help women and children in the Southern/ London area

    charity shops
    ziffit
    ebay
    gumtree etc
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    • greenbee
    • By greenbee 13th Jan 20, 12:39 PM
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    greenbee
    Hi team Kondo!

    In need of some desperate wardrobe help - I need tips for organising and clearing shelves. There's no clothes on them - but I need suggestions for storing bags, perfume and other assortments!

    Any help appreciated! It's a mammoth task and every time I look at it I want to cry... Mainly the paperwork! I don't know where to start!

    - MSE Molly
    Originally posted by MSE Molly
    Take a deep breath, and think about how you can make it manageable. If your wardrobe is the bit that's almost done, then focus on that.

    First, take a good look at what you've done, admire it, and think about how good it makes you feel.

    Secondly, make sure anything you have got rid of is OUT of the house. Ideally to the CS/sold/freecyled or whatever. If not, boxed up and in the car boot out of sight.

    Then look at the stuff that's left. If it still feels cluttered, start off by going back through it and sorting it.

    Bags - go through them all and remove any rubbish, clean the insides of dust and grot, wipe down the outsides, clean any marks and be ruthless about any that are past their best even if you love them! Then clear a shelf, clean it, and start by putting the bags back on the shelf tidily - maybe start by organising by colour, and you'll probably find a more logical system emerges as you put them back. If any have protective bags they live in, then put them in those, and tie on labels if necessary.

    Perfume - find a shoe box or similar. Go through them all wiping the bottles so they're not dusty. Smell them to check none have gone off. Put the full ones at the back of the box (ideally in their packaging, as light isn't good for perfume) and the open stuff towards the front. Pull out some of the almost-empty ones and put them on your dressing table/CoD or in the bathroom so you make an effort to use them up. If there are any unopened ones you think you won't use soon, consider donating/selling/gifting them - perfume doesn't last for ever. And remember, to make yourself feel good, wear your perfume every day!

    Make-up - do the same. Get it out, clean it up, sharpen pencils etc consider whether/when you use it and put it back neatly. Keep some out to use.

    Scarves - check for any snags/holes/dirt and put anything that needs it aside for repair/cleaning. Then roll up and stack on a clean shelf so you can see all the ends. Organise by colour or weight - whatever makes sense.

    Jewellery - sort into categories (earrings, necklaces, bracelets etc) and go through checking again for repairs/cleaning. Then sort into work/formal/casual etc. Go through your storage and make sure that's clean - I use various pretty old saucers to store my jewellery, along with small bags.

    Just keep breaking things down into smaller and smaller categories.

    When you've done this lot, you can tackle harder things, but your bedroom will be a haven, and getting ready in the morning will be a lot easier!

    You can start the paperwork today by dealing with the post when it arrives, even if it is simply opening it, recycling envelopes and junk, and then putting the important stuff into piles for file/action.

    Come back when you're ready to start paperwork and there will be plenty of advice as to how to approach it. We all struggle with it, regularly!
    • luxor4t
    • By luxor4t 13th Jan 20, 9:19 PM
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    Greenbee, magnificent!

    I can only add that I found a basket that holds my bags upright and easily identifiable on the shelf - and that means they take up less
    space.
    MK suggests that we already own suitable containers, we just need to recognise them. Mine had come into the house as part of a food
    hamper.
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    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 14th Jan 20, 10:48 AM
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    Siebrie
    I'm on the lookout for a box to replace the cardboard box that held our 4 bicycle helmets in the garage. It was the perfect size, and fell apart last night. I think the sm is the best place for me. The old box was folded and put into the old paper container (another cardboard box ).

    To Africa box: dd2's short leggings, dd2's vest, dd2's white lace dress (she shed a tear, but it's really too small and tight; even she agreed).

    Persuaded husband that the leftover portion of pasta-and-sauce would make a good lunch. I don't know why he was hesitant, because normally he's fine taking leftovers to work and this sauce was really nice.
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    • littlegreenparrot
    • By littlegreenparrot 14th Jan 20, 2:29 PM
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    littlegreenparrot
    An early win for me was scarves, and one of the very few things I manage to maintain

    All scarves folded and rolled, stacked end up in a big shoe box (from walking boots)
    It sits on the top shelf of the wardrobe, where I can easily pull it out and put it on the bed while I find what I need/put things back.

    It works well, looks pretty, and is easy.

    The previous method was to have them all just stuffed onto the top shelf - so I would pull them all out onto the floor while I looked for what I wanted, then stuffed them all back, every flipping morning!
    • luxor4t
    • By luxor4t 14th Jan 20, 4:04 PM
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    luxor4t
    An early win for me was scarves, and one of the very few things I manage to maintain
    Originally posted by littlegreenparrot
    Probably TMI but .... DH still rolls his socks and pants up. It has been years and years since I first read MK and started tackling the house, but he still does it. He is hell-on-wheels elsewhere in the house, but keeps a neat undies drawer.

    37 years together and he still amazes me.
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    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 14th Jan 20, 8:41 PM
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    Have decided my swimming costume no longer sparks joy. I was getting a sore patch in my armpit which I thought was caused by a bra wire, but I've discovered it's a seam on my swimming costume rubbing. A replacement has been sourced (half price in the sale) on tinternet so the old one will be going. Have also ordered a new pair of trunks for OH as a suitable pair for him was 75% off and it made sense seeing that I was having to pay for postage anyway. Mine is made from recycled fishing nets and other marine plastic. The old one will go to fabric recycling at the charity shop.
    • VJsmum
    • By VJsmum 15th Jan 20, 8:04 AM
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    VJsmum
    Back from my hols - kondoed 1 book (left in the apartment in the book swap drawer, but did not replace it) and will kondo one too short vest. I think said vest (which is part of a pyjama set) is so short that I can't even charity shop it, so will have to go for rags.

    I am back on one thing a day (at least). I know it isn't strictly in the spirit of kondo but it does make me think about the spark joy aspect. Last week (before going away) I used up and chucked out 3 candles (one spilled wax all over my table as it developed a hole halfway down it..., definitely didn't spark joy).
    I wanna be in the room where it happens
    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 15th Jan 20, 9:25 AM
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    Siebrie
    A friend kondoed her husband after 20 years together (married for 5). They have a 15-year old daughter together and friend has just turned 50. She decided life is too short for constantly feeling neglected or coming second place after all his friends and his own interests. My husband and I are friends with both of them, so while he was talking to friend's husband and trying to help sort out a new living space, I was texting with friend.

    It's very much a cultural thing, and I notice it with husband and his group of West-African friends (all from different countries), and, of course, it makes me reconsider my relationship with my husband. So far, he sparks more joy than annoyance, but it's a continual work in progress. I did realise after some reflection that I had gotten back into a very reactive mode of living, constantly waiting for anyone else to make things happen. So: that's finished, time to take my life back into my own hands and get things going my way!
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    • MSE Molly
    • By MSE Molly 15th Jan 20, 12:17 PM
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    Take a deep breath, and think about how you can make it manageable. If your wardrobe is the bit that's almost done, then focus on that.

    First, take a good look at what you've done, admire it, and think about how good it makes you feel.

    Secondly, make sure anything you have got rid of is OUT of the house. Ideally to the CS/sold/freecyled or whatever. If not, boxed up and in the car boot out of sight.

    Then look at the stuff that's left. If it still feels cluttered, start off by going back through it and sorting it.

    Bags - go through them all and remove any rubbish, clean the insides of dust and grot, wipe down the outsides, clean any marks and be ruthless about any that are past their best even if you love them! Then clear a shelf, clean it, and start by putting the bags back on the shelf tidily - maybe start by organising by colour, and you'll probably find a more logical system emerges as you put them back. If any have protective bags they live in, then put them in those, and tie on labels if necessary.

    Perfume - find a shoe box or similar. Go through them all wiping the bottles so they're not dusty. Smell them to check none have gone off. Put the full ones at the back of the box (ideally in their packaging, as light isn't good for perfume) and the open stuff towards the front. Pull out some of the almost-empty ones and put them on your dressing table/CoD or in the bathroom so you make an effort to use them up. If there are any unopened ones you think you won't use soon, consider donating/selling/gifting them - perfume doesn't last for ever. And remember, to make yourself feel good, wear your perfume every day!

    Make-up - do the same. Get it out, clean it up, sharpen pencils etc consider whether/when you use it and put it back neatly. Keep some out to use.

    Scarves - check for any snags/holes/dirt and put anything that needs it aside for repair/cleaning. Then roll up and stack on a clean shelf so you can see all the ends. Organise by colour or weight - whatever makes sense.

    Jewellery - sort into categories (earrings, necklaces, bracelets etc) and go through checking again for repairs/cleaning. Then sort into work/formal/casual etc. Go through your storage and make sure that's clean - I use various pretty old saucers to store my jewellery, along with small bags.

    Just keep breaking things down into smaller and smaller categories.

    When you've done this lot, you can tackle harder things, but your bedroom will be a haven, and getting ready in the morning will be a lot easier!

    You can start the paperwork today by dealing with the post when it arrives, even if it is simply opening it, recycling envelopes and junk, and then putting the important stuff into piles for file/action.

    Come back when you're ready to start paperwork and there will be plenty of advice as to how to approach it. We all struggle with it, regularly!
    Originally posted by greenbee
    This is fantastic greenbee, thank you! Think I will dedicate next weekend to doing this!

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    • Hazelnutty
    • By Hazelnutty 16th Jan 20, 5:41 PM
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    Feeling quite pleased with myself. I have 145 to pay into my house move pot from various sales on FB groups and work sales list I've picked up unsold items from a local dress exchange so am going to have one more go at selling them (really nice leather handbags) then they can go to the CS. My favourite CS, for a local hospice, has a separate store where the nicer bits go and they can get more money for them.

    I feel I've still been Kondo'ing the low hanging fruit so to speak and need to be more radical before the move.
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    • Mrs Cheshire
    • By Mrs Cheshire 16th Jan 20, 8:40 PM
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    Evening all, been following the method for a while, have managed to do clothes, books, paperwork (yet to find a good method for keeping on top of it) and some komono. Have done the kitchen and bathroom and kids toys on numerous occasions but they still need redoing.

    I'm on a mission to not bring so much into the house this year, we had a fairly good Christmas (but still need to find homes for a few things). I don't have large chunks of time I can dedicate to it, so going to try splitting it up into smaller chunks.
    Does anyone know of a good printable list of komono categories?
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    • Frugal Freda
    • By Frugal Freda 16th Jan 20, 10:12 PM
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    Larder
    I seem to have developed a better sense of what won't get eaten as my six monthly trawl of the larder for out of date tins and packets yielded none. Keeping shorter dated stuff on the lower shelf has helped and I did write the date on some tins in marker pen so that I didn't need a magnifying glass to see it. I did wonder why there was so much custard until I recalled a friend who can't live without it planned to visit and then cancelled (twice). Roll on tinned fruit with custard this month then
    • luxor4t
    • By luxor4t 16th Jan 20, 10:41 PM
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    luxor4t
    ....I'm on a mission to not bring so much into the house this year, we had a fairly good Christmas (but still need to find homes for a few things). I don't have large chunks of time I can dedicate to it, so going to try splitting it up into smaller chunks.
    Does anyone know of a good printable list of komono categories?
    Originally posted by Mrs Cheshire
    So many lists exist - in fact they have multiplied since I last looked! - many are 'free printables', but I have never settled on one that works for me
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    • Hazelnutty
    • By Hazelnutty 17th Jan 20, 5:25 PM
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    A dump run today with various bits that couldn't be rehomed - some broken xmas lights, a totally obsolete and broken phone, some broken glass from a frame, among various things. Although I don't like resorting to the dump it has freed up some space for the next phase of decluttering.

    I have also sold two more things on the work email list so those will leave the house on Monday and another 55 into the house move pot

    Reviewing all my listings tomorrow and will give away as much as I can. I'm feeling quite itchy for another wave of activity so may tackle my clothes. The first wave resulted in a nice orderly hanging rail and neat drawers but I haven't started on my extensive sports and outdoor kit With my DD heaping everything together really worked so I may do that. The more I can do now the easier getting the new house in order will be.
    Choose kind
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    • VJsmum
    • By VJsmum 17th Jan 20, 6:07 PM
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    Evening all

    I have been to sister in law's house Ye gods, where to start? it's hideously cluttered and stuff is EVERYWHERE. it's also pretty filthy.....

    So Anyhoo, she was bothered about paperwork and fretting that the 'office space' she's assigned herself is not fit for purpose - she's right, it isn't. it's a small alcove with a rooflight

    As a start I shoved everything that wasn't office related (cushions, scarves, throws) under the desk. Put some files up one end (dusting as I went), gave her some things to sort through and piled the paperwork up with instructions to sort it... 3 piles - shred, recycle, file. It really isn't much, but it is a start... And at least the space is less daunting now

    For myself, I have managed a thing a day - mainly some plastic bits that were useless and were hanging around. Yesterday's was the leg of some child's plaything - maybe a kitchen or a baby bath stand - why we only had one leg of it and WHY we had a leg of it I am not sure.. But t'is gone now and makes slightly more room in a particular storage basket.. There's a few things more in there that can go, but I need DS out of the way before I do it.

    Onwards
    I wanna be in the room where it happens
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 17th Jan 20, 6:32 PM
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    Have emailed a pal with a picture of something which I am wanting to divest myself of, which was discussed before Xmas, to see if she might want it. It's made clear that it's on its way out anyway, to the chazzer if not her home. I'll give her a until this time next week to respond then assume a negative if I haven't heard and donate.


    Have been thinking hard about various items of cookware for some time now. These things are definately 'on probation' and may well leave in the next couple of months. Good stuff isn't good-for-me stuff if I'm not actually getting any use out of it. Better to let it go off into someone else's life and be useful there.


    ETA; just put together a donation bag together which will go out tomorrow.
    Last edited by GreyQueen; 17-01-2020 at 8:01 PM. Reason: to add a bit
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    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 18th Jan 20, 10:34 AM
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    Accidentally re-kondoed my sock drawer lots of the thin ones that I wear with ordinary shoes are wearing out, finally, I must have ragged four pairs in the last month. I may actually soon need to call on my stash (bought and inherited). I've also grouped together the bedsocks that I inherited, a lot of which are handknitted - from memory, I find them itchy, especially with my weird skin. So I'll try them out one set at a time - any that are itchy are going to the cs, life's too short for anything else.
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    • greenbee
    • By greenbee 18th Jan 20, 11:12 AM
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    greenbee
    My thin socks are all going too KC - I got a whole lot cheap last winter and I think they'll just make it through this one!

    Re. the bedsocks - can you wear them with thin socks underneath? So you get the warmth, but not the itchiness. I find them handy for when I'm lying around on the sofa reading
    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 18th Jan 20, 11:57 AM
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    Maybe, maybe ... and here's a confession that chills my cockles ... I never wear just socks because I need to be able to send any spiders on their way with a swift stamp but I have one set of bootee slippers that are large, and they might work with 2 x socks.
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    • greenbee
    • By greenbee 18th Jan 20, 12:11 PM
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    greenbee
    I have the same thing with spiders I just keep a heavy book handy. I've also discovered that weirdly some of them just hang about until I've gone and put all my protective clothing on

    I also wear socks in bed - I put lots of cream or coconut oil on my feet first and claim it's a foot treatment, but it also keeps them warm So you could do this on your last use of socks about to be ragged, and put the bedsocks over the top - no need to wash the oily socks, nice warm feet, and they'll be lovely and soft too!
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