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    • EViS
    • By EViS 13th Jun 19, 6:18 PM
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    Letter Before Action (LBA) - Capital Car Park Control
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    • 13th Jun 19, 6:18 PM
    Letter Before Action (LBA) - Capital Car Park Control 13th Jun 19 at 6:18 PM
    Having received a PCN, followed by a NTK, a Letter Before Action (LBA) has been delivered from Capital Car Park Control (a BPA member and appears on their register) advising 14 days to reply with payment or the possibility of the file being passed to a debt recovery / issue court proceedings.

    Obviously the boat for a POPLA appeal has been missed with the original PCN, but I am struggling to find any information on how and what reply should be sent to an LBA which is not an official Letter Before Court (LBC) with attached forms. Should a SAR listing now be sent, or is this a waste of time without an official LBC?

    Admittedly the original PCN/NTK shouldn't have been ignored, lesson now learned with fresh research and reading.

    Additionally, Capital Car Park Control doesn't flag up on the forum, has anyone heard of them before and know their process?

    Many thanks in advance for any advice/input .
    Last edited by EViS; 13-06-2019 at 6:20 PM.
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    • BrownTrout
    • By BrownTrout 13th Jun 19, 6:24 PM
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    • #2
    • 13th Jun 19, 6:24 PM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 6:24 PM
    The LBA is the same thing
    They issue their own court claims
    • EViS
    • By EViS 13th Jun 19, 6:30 PM
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    • #3
    • 13th Jun 19, 6:30 PM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 6:30 PM
    Thanks for the reply, what are you saying the LBA (with a 14 day window) is the same as, an LBC (with a 30 day window and attached forms)?
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 13th Jun 19, 6:32 PM
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    • #4
    • 13th Jun 19, 6:32 PM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 6:32 PM
    Having received a PCN, followed by a NTK, a Letter Before Action (LBA) has been delivered from Capital Car Park Control (a BPA member and appears on their register) advising 14 days to reply with payment or the possibility of the file being passed to a debt recovery / issue court proceedings.

    Obviously the boat for a POPLA appeal has been missed with the original PCN, but I am struggling to find any information on how and what reply should be sent to an LBA which is not an official Letter Before Court (LBC) with attached forms. Should a SAR listing now be sent, or is this a waste of time without an official LBC?

    Admittedly the original PCN/NTK shouldn't have been ignored, lesson now learned with fresh research and reading.

    Additionally, Capital Car Park Control doesn't flag up on the forum, has anyone heard of them before and know their process?

    Many thanks in advance for any advice/input .
    Originally posted by EViS
    It's not a REAL LBA, they must give you 30 days to respond and prove to you their claim

    So, they will set the mickey mouse debt collectors on you ?
    Probably the sewer living bunch called DRP
    IGNORE THESE DOWN AND OUTS
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5859454&highlight=debt+collectors +drp
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Redx
    • By Redx 13th Jun 19, 6:34 PM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 6:34 PM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 6:34 PM
    14 days and no financial forms is a debt collector letter - IGNORE


    30 days + financial forms = LBC or LoC as its known now


    post #4 of the newbies sticky thread answers the first one


    post #2 of the newbies sticky thread answers the second one
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 13th Jun 19, 6:39 PM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 6:39 PM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 6:39 PM
    Capital Car Park Control doesn't flag up on the forum, has anyone heard of them before and know their process?
    Originally posted by EViS
    There are at least two threads from April this year discussing Capital Car Park Control.
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    • EViS
    • By EViS 13th Jun 19, 6:44 PM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 6:44 PM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 6:44 PM
    Thank you for the super prompt replies both! I did not realise that an LBA is classed as a debt collector's letter. The newbies thread (which I have read through a number of times) made no mention of this or I simply did not appreciate that the wording in an LBA is purely of "debt collection" .

    To clear the process up for me, if the POPLA route is missed, then the advise of "ignore" remains until an official LBC arrives?
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 13th Jun 19, 6:46 PM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 6:46 PM
    I did not realise that an LBA is classed as a debt collector's letter.
    It's not that it's called a LBA (rather than a LBC). It's not about the name.

    It's a debt letter purely because it only gives you 14 days and has no reply forms, so its wording & format doesn't cut the mustard.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 13th Jun 19, 6:51 PM
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    • 13th Jun 19, 6:51 PM
    ! I did not realise that an LBA is classed as a debt collector's letter.
    Originally posted by EViS
    Not to confuse others, an LBA is real if it gives you proof of the claim and costs plus 30 days to respond.
    It will also include forms to complete which you ignore

    Only fake LBA's gives you 10-14 days
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    • Redx
    • By Redx 13th Jun 19, 7:11 PM
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    I did not realise that an LBA is classed as a debt collector's letter.

    To clear the process up for me, if the POPLA route is missed, then the advise of "ignore" remains until an official LBC arrives?
    Originally posted by EViS
    an LoC (new name) = LBA (old name) = LBC = LBCCC = any other variation and under oct 2017 rules should give 30 days and include the financial forms (the 2 crucial factors for an LoC)

    anything else is a debt collector letter, especially if its 14 days and no forms - which are ignored


    yes you wait for an official LoC = LBC (all the same thing) with 30 days notice + the financial forms
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • BrownTrout
    • By BrownTrout 13th Jun 19, 7:17 PM
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    You will more then likely receive a claim in due course. Be under no doubt of that
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