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    • MrBrindle
    • By MrBrindle 13th Jun 19, 2:05 PM
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    Gearbox or clutch issue
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    • 13th Jun 19, 2:05 PM
    Gearbox or clutch issue 13th Jun 19 at 2:05 PM
    Hi all, I've tried to search for this answer but can't find anything similar.

    Our car is grinding going into reverse and is extremely resistant going into 1st and 2nd gears at times. Sometimes is takes 3/4 go's to put in reverse. However when the engine is off, all gears work fine!

    The clutch is biting around an inch from the floor, which I'd imagine is quite low?

    I'm waiting from our mechanic for a date to take it in, but just wondered if anyone had an idea what we're in for? I'm dreading a gearbox issue as that'll be extremely costly, and clutch clearly not cheap either.

    I'm just confused as to why the gears work fine when engine is off, but not when the car is running. Is that sort of good news in terms of the gearbox?
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    • rob7475
    • By rob7475 14th Jun 19, 2:55 PM
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    Hi Rob, yes that very model. We were offered 5k for it by a Toyota dealership (mrs fancies the hybrids there), but that was back in December, and before their mechanics checked it out etc. I'm sure they'd have knocked us down a bit more again though.
    Originally posted by MrBrindle
    If you can get 5k for it, I'd be tempted to take it. I've been to two main dealers in the past week or so with mine. One offered 4700 but eventually went to 5k. The other offered between 4600 and 5400 depending on condition when the checked it out.

    If you're trading in against brand new, there may be a bit more wiggle room. I was looking at cars that are 6 month old.

    If your mechanic does come back with a diagnosis and estimate of cost to repair could you let me know how much it is? I'm still undecided whether to trade mine in or get it repaired.
    • MrBrindle
    • By MrBrindle 14th Jun 19, 3:05 PM
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    If you can get 5k for it, I'd be tempted to take it. I've been to two main dealers in the past week or so with mine. One offered 4700 but eventually went to 5k. The other offered between 4600 and 5400 depending on condition when the checked it out.

    If you're trading in against brand new, there may be a bit more wiggle room. I was looking at cars that are 6 month old.

    If your mechanic does come back with a diagnosis and estimate of cost to repair could you let me know how much it is? I'm still undecided whether to trade mine in or get it repaired.
    Originally posted by rob7475
    I doubt we'd get 5k now, especially with this clutch problem. I'm sure a dealership will find that out before pricing up!

    I've been nagging him since Monday for a price! He's pretty busy because he's one of the best non-dealership mechanics around, just frustrating waiting around.
    • Norman Castle
    • By Norman Castle 14th Jun 19, 6:15 PM
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    We were told this by a friend, I do it to see sometimes, I think it may help, but haven't noticed a drastic change in performance.
    Originally posted by MrBrindle
    Try putting it in to gear but keep the clutch pedal on the floor. Does the car stall as though the pedal has been slowly released?
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    • MrBrindle
    • By MrBrindle 14th Jun 19, 6:37 PM
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    Try putting it in to gear but keep the clutch pedal on the floor. Does the car stall as though the pedal has been slowly released?
    Originally posted by Norman Castle
    Hi Norman, hmm, not really, it bites hard around an inch off the floor.
    • MrBrindle
    • By MrBrindle 14th Jun 19, 6:40 PM
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    If you can get 5k for it, I'd be tempted to take it. I've been to two main dealers in the past week or so with mine. One offered 4700 but eventually went to 5k. The other offered between 4600 and 5400 depending on condition when the checked it out.

    If you're trading in against brand new, there may be a bit more wiggle room. I was looking at cars that are 6 month old.

    If your mechanic does come back with a diagnosis and estimate of cost to repair could you let me know how much it is? I'm still undecided whether to trade mine in or get it repaired.
    Originally posted by rob7475
    The mechanic rang me earlier, it's booked in for Tuesday and Wednesday. He's given me a figure of 120 inv VAT for the clutch and a ball park figure of around 200-300 for labour. He looked up the clutch details for ix35 and it doesn't require a fly wheel apparently, which would cost a lot extra like motorguy said.

    I'll let you know what the full diagnosis is though.
    • rob7475
    • By rob7475 14th Jun 19, 9:02 PM
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    If it’s only struggling into certain gears be prepared for the clutch replacement not to fix the issue.

    The dealer tried telling me it was clutch wear and Hyundai UK agreed with me that clutch wear wouldnt just affect certain gears. They made the dealer strip the gearbox and found damaged synchros
    • Richard53
    • By Richard53 15th Jun 19, 12:31 AM
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    The OP describes difficulty in selecting 1st, 2nd and reverse. That, and the pedal biting close to the floor, is completely consistent with a clutch failing to disengage properly. Not a cheap job, but not the end of the world.


    I haven't heard of the synchro rings wearing in a modern car except at huge mileages, so I think you have just been unlucky.
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    • rob7475
    • By rob7475 17th Jun 19, 9:06 AM
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    The OP describes difficulty in selecting 1st, 2nd and reverse. That, and the pedal biting close to the floor, is completely consistent with a clutch failing to disengage properly. Not a cheap job, but not the end of the world.


    I haven't heard of the synchro rings wearing in a modern car except at huge mileages, so I think you have just been unlucky.
    Originally posted by Richard53
    I'd agree with you about synchro rings not wearing in modern cars. I'd not heard of the issue in a modern car before I owned a Hyundai. Reading the forums though, gearboxes are a fairly common issue on various Hyundai models.
    • MrBrindle
    • By MrBrindle 25th Jun 19, 11:26 AM
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    Had the clutch done last week, 360 inc VAT. Happy with that price. All good so far, except for 1st gear which won't engage sometimes - putting it into 2nd and then 1st solves the issue. So there may be something going on with 1st.

    Reverse all sorted though which was the important bit.
    • Richard53
    • By Richard53 25th Jun 19, 12:47 PM
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    All good so far, except for 1st gear which won't engage sometimes - putting it into 2nd and then 1st solves the issue. So there may be something going on with 1st.

    Reverse all sorted though which was the important bit.
    Originally posted by MrBrindle
    To be fair, I have driven countless cars in the 70s and 80s where you had to get 2nd before you could go into 1st. All had sound clutches and gearboxes, it was just 'one of those things'.

    And reverse always crunched, no matter how careful you were. "They are all like that, Sir."
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