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    • donnajunkie
    • By donnajunkie 17th May 19, 5:38 PM
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    Why no update for my old Windows?
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    • 17th May 19, 5:38 PM
    Why no update for my old Windows? 17th May 19 at 5:38 PM
    I read due to a security threat microsoft had sent out an update for older operating systems. I have vista and thought i would turn on the pc and get the update. I found there wasnt any and the update function is still off since they abandoned it.
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    • that
    • By that 17th May 19, 5:41 PM
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    • 17th May 19, 5:41 PM
    As you said, they abandoned it.

    "As of April 11, 2017, Windows Vista customers are no longer receiving new security updates, non-security hotfixes, free or paid assisted support options, or online technical content updates from Microsoft."
    • donnajunkie
    • By donnajunkie 17th May 19, 5:44 PM
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    • 17th May 19, 5:44 PM
    As you said, they abandoned it.

    "As of April 11, 2017, Windows Vista customers are no longer receiving new security updates, non-security hotfixes, free or paid assisted support options, or online technical content updates from Microsoft."
    Originally posted by that
    I know but as i said i recently read due to concerns of a similar threat to wannacry that they had sent out an update for the older versions, even windows xp which is older than vista.
    • John Gray
    • By John Gray 17th May 19, 5:59 PM
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    • 17th May 19, 5:59 PM
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    • 17th May 19, 5:59 PM
    Possibly Microsoft does not feel that Vista deserves to be updated?
    Actually, as yet there seems no information about whether or not Microsoft will produce a patch for Vista.
    • Lorian
    • By Lorian 17th May 19, 6:05 PM
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    • 17th May 19, 6:05 PM
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    • 17th May 19, 6:05 PM
    CVE-2019-0708 is only really a big threat if you are sat on a big corporate local area network with other older client PCs.

    Its not the biggest risk you might have with a Vista machine if it's sat on a home network with a router acting as a firewall. There are other issues that might bite though.

    It would be a bit of a headache for those responsible for patching in the NHS...

    Also you might be able to apply the 2008 Server version of the point patch - but I'd let other's test that first ;-)
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 17th May 19, 8:10 PM
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    • 17th May 19, 8:10 PM
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    • 17th May 19, 8:10 PM
    I always find it rather odd that anyone would stick with possibly the worst OS Microsoft ever produced rather than update to one that is immeasurably better (7) or even one that's bad but not as bad as Vista (8).
    • Chino
    • By Chino 17th May 19, 8:15 PM
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    • 17th May 19, 8:15 PM
    possibly the worst OS Microsoft ever produced
    Originally posted by agrinnall
    What did you find specifically bad about Vista? I used both it and Windows 7 and whilst Windows 7 was a bit slicker than Vista, I never found it that much better. I suspect that if Windows 7 had been branded "Vista SP 2" everyone would have hated it as well.
    • donnajunkie
    • By donnajunkie 17th May 19, 11:12 PM
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    • 17th May 19, 11:12 PM
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    • 17th May 19, 11:12 PM
    I always find it rather odd that anyone would stick with possibly the worst OS Microsoft ever produced rather than update to one that is immeasurably better (7) or even one that's bad but not as bad as Vista (8).
    Originally posted by agrinnall
    because i havent a clue and worry it will screw up. Also paying out for it when i hope to finally get a new system in the not too distant future.
    • poppellerant
    • By poppellerant 18th May 19, 12:22 AM
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    • 18th May 19, 12:22 AM
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    • 18th May 19, 12:22 AM
    Rather than pull Vista to shreds, the only advice I can offer is upgrade to Windows 10 ASAP. As Vista is longer supported and updated by Microsoft, there is little other help to offer right now. By using outdated software, you are potentially exposing yourself to nasties and exploits. At the very least keep your antivirus up to date.

    What machine do you have (make and model) and do you have your data backed up somewhere? It's not too bad to upgrade your PC to Windows 10, the hard part is normally your data and programs and perhaps a few drivers.
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 18th May 19, 8:14 AM
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    because i havent a clue and worry it will screw up. Also paying out for it when i hope to finally get a new system in the not too distant future.
    Originally posted by donnajunkie

    I can't remember precisely what was on offer that far back but the upgrade to the next version is often free of charge.


    Rather than pull Vista to shreds, the only advice I can offer is upgrade to Windows 10 ASAP.
    Originally posted by poppellerant

    I think I read recently on here that there is no upgrade from Vista to 10 (although it might be possible by going via one or more intermediate versions).
    • poppellerant
    • By poppellerant 18th May 19, 8:37 AM
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    I think I read recently on here that there is no upgrade from Vista to 10 (although it might be possible by going via one or more intermediate versions).
    Originally posted by agrinnall
    I recall seeing that you can't upgrade from Vista to 10 for free, but there should be nothing stopping the OP buying a key for 10 in order to perform the upgrade.
    • EveryWhere
    • By EveryWhere 18th May 19, 8:44 AM
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    because i havent a clue and worry it will screw up. Also paying out for it when i hope to finally get a new system in the not too distant future.
    Originally posted by donnajunkie
    We've been here so many times. Just get on with it with the help of the people here. I'm sure you were saying exactly the same thing years ago...about getting a new system. Just get on with it..
    • giraffe69
    • By giraffe69 18th May 19, 11:47 AM
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    I suppose the answer as to why Microsoft is unwilling to support old software is the overhead of so many versions
    3.1
    Win 95
    Win 98
    ME
    2000
    XP
    Vista
    7
    8
    8.1
    10

    It has to stop sometime. As to why XP and not Vista when XP is older perhaps the numbers still using XP is significant and the Vista numbers are not.
    I agree with others. Bite the bullet and get a newer OS.
    • that
    • By that 18th May 19, 12:57 PM
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    because i havent a clue and worry it will screw up. Also paying out for it when i hope to finally get a new system in the not too distant future.
    Originally posted by donnajunkie
    And that is why companies are still running xp . If the developers are around you could ask them? You may have to upgrade the software, or repuchase it? With bespoke software it not just about buying a new os.

    Providing that your Vista PC is not connected to an odd bit of hardware like a scanner, or specialist printer etc. it probably could and would be prudent to copy the disk onto vitualbox which makes it less PC and hardware dependant, and you vista pc work also work in multiple place until things get sorted
    Last edited by that; 18-05-2019 at 12:59 PM.
    • 50Twuncle
    • By 50Twuncle 18th May 19, 1:34 PM
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    I am still using Windows 3.0 and can't remember when I received the last security update !!
    ps) I am joking !
    • greenbee
    • By greenbee 18th May 19, 2:08 PM
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    I suppose the answer as to why Microsoft is unwilling to support old software is the overhead of so many versions
    3.1
    Win 95
    Win 98
    ME
    2000
    XP
    Vista
    7
    8
    8.1
    10

    It has to stop sometime. As to why XP and not Vista when XP is older perhaps the numbers still using XP is significant and the Vista numbers are not.
    I agree with others. Bite the bullet and get a newer OS.
    Originally posted by giraffe69
    You forgot NT
    • donnajunkie
    • By donnajunkie 18th May 19, 5:31 PM
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    We've been here so many times. Just get on with it with the help of the people here. I'm sure you were saying exactly the same thing years ago...about getting a new system. Just get on with it..
    Originally posted by EveryWhere
    Well the purpose of the thread was just to find out why a security update didnít appear when recent news suggests there is one.
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 18th May 19, 6:40 PM
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    It has to stop sometime.
    Originally posted by giraffe69

    It has stopped, MS have said there will never be another version after 10. Instead there are massive, and potentially damaging (1809 anyone?), updates every 6 months. The latest update has apparently just come out although I'm not sure when it will be pushed out to everyone.


    https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/windows-10-april-2019-update-release-date-news-and-features
    • Mr.Generous
    • By Mr.Generous 18th May 19, 7:00 PM
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    Vista should be quietly put to sleep. Dreadful O/S
    • EveryWhere
    • By EveryWhere 20th May 19, 9:21 AM
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    Well the purpose of the thread was just to find out why a security update didn’t appear when recent news suggests there is one.
    Originally posted by donnajunkie
    So you'll just keep on procrastinating and then coming back here when you have another problem with Vista...which no one else is using?

    Swap the current HDD for an SSD, clean install Windows 10 to it. No possibility for you to mess anything up with your old data, as you won't be touching it.

    Performance will increase, possibly substantially. Cost as little as £17.
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