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    • DianaD
    • By DianaD 16th May 19, 12:22 PM
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    Damage to car in car park
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    • 16th May 19, 12:22 PM
    Damage to car in car park 16th May 19 at 12:22 PM
    I parked my car in a car park on a small industrial estate. I drove into a designated parking space and found that my bumper was up against an approx. 30cm high small tree stump on the edge of the parking bay but situated in front of the post and rail fence I was using as a guide to how far I went in. The tarmac is crumbling away on the edge of the parking bay with weeds present so they could say that the stump isn't within the bay. However other cars in adjacent bays were parked further forward, closer to the post and rail fence. Damage to my bumper. Called the landlords who have said I parked at my own risk so won't consider. No signage in the car park stating you park at your own risk. I feel that this is negligence on their part as the tree stump wasn't visible driving in (I have a low car so didn't see it) and shouldn't be there. Is there anything I can go back to them with?
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    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 16th May 19, 12:24 PM
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    • 16th May 19, 12:24 PM
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    • 16th May 19, 12:24 PM
    You drove into a 30cm high tree stump, and it's somebody else's fault...?

    Can we presume the stump was static, and didn't leap out in front of you?

    "But I couldn't see it, my car was too low" is a lousy excuse. There may have been somebody having a lie-down in the parking space. Would you have driven over them?
    • UncleZen
    • By UncleZen 16th May 19, 12:24 PM
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    • 16th May 19, 12:24 PM
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    • 16th May 19, 12:24 PM
    You drove into a tree stump and you want someone to compensate you for your mistake - seriously?
    • Comms69
    • By Comms69 16th May 19, 12:25 PM
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    • 16th May 19, 12:25 PM
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    • 16th May 19, 12:25 PM
    Absolutely your fault.


    And there's no chance you'd miss a foot high stump.
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 16th May 19, 12:37 PM
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    • 16th May 19, 12:37 PM
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    • 16th May 19, 12:37 PM
    I parked my car in a car park on a small industrial estate. I drove into a designated parking space and found that my bumper was up against an approx. 30cm high small tree stump on the edge of the parking bay but situated in front of the post and rail fence I was using as a guide to how far I went in. The tarmac is crumbling away on the edge of the parking bay with weeds present so they could say that the stump isn't within the bay. However other cars in adjacent bays were parked further forward, closer to the post and rail fence. Damage to my bumper. Called the landlords who have said I parked at my own risk so won't consider. No signage in the car park stating you park at your own risk. I feel that this is negligence on their part as the tree stump wasn't visible driving in (I have a low car so didn't see it) and shouldn't be there. Is there anything I can go back to them with?
    Originally posted by DianaD
    Your insurance details? They may wish to claim for any damage you've caused to their property.
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 16th May 19, 2:18 PM
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    • 16th May 19, 2:18 PM
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    • 16th May 19, 2:18 PM
    Not following the "I drive a low car so didn't see it." I drive a low car, I'm more likely to see something like that than in my Mondeo.

    As others have said you've not a hope in hell. It is hardly like a 1ft high probably at least as wide if not wider tree stump is going to be invisible.
    • EdGasketTheSecond
    • By EdGasketTheSecond 16th May 19, 3:30 PM
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    • 16th May 19, 3:30 PM
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    • 16th May 19, 3:30 PM
    the tree stump wasn't visible driving in (I have a low car so didn't see it) and shouldn't be there. Is there anything I can go back to them with?
    Originally posted by DianaD

    A chain saw?
    • unholyangel
    • By unholyangel 16th May 19, 8:56 PM
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    • 16th May 19, 8:56 PM
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    • 16th May 19, 8:56 PM
    I parked my car in a car park on a small industrial estate. I drove into a designated parking space and found that my bumper was up against an approx. 30cm high small tree stump on the edge of the parking bay but situated in front of the post and rail fence I was using as a guide to how far I went in. The tarmac is crumbling away on the edge of the parking bay with weeds present so they could say that the stump isn't within the bay. However other cars in adjacent bays were parked further forward, closer to the post and rail fence. Damage to my bumper. Called the landlords who have said I parked at my own risk so won't consider. No signage in the car park stating you park at your own risk. I feel that this is negligence on their part as the tree stump wasn't visible driving in (I have a low car so didn't see it) and shouldn't be there. Is there anything I can go back to them with?
    Originally posted by DianaD
    A booster seat?

    Sorry, but I don't understand how you couldn't have seen it - regardless of what height your car is. Presumably your car didn't fall from the sky to land 1 ft in front of it.
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    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 16th May 19, 9:00 PM
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    • 16th May 19, 9:00 PM
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    • 16th May 19, 9:00 PM
    A booster seat?

    Sorry, but I don't understand how you couldn't have seen it - regardless of what height your car is. Presumably your car didn't fall from the sky to land 1 ft in front of it.
    Originally posted by unholyangel
    Quite. Presumably OP can't see road markings from her driver's seat, either. I'm amazed she could see the bay to park in it at all. Let's not even ask about zebra crossings, box junctions, give way markings...
    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 17th May 19, 2:29 AM
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    Shirley this is a wind up?
    • Scrapit
    • By Scrapit 17th May 19, 6:18 AM
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    You should go back with an apology
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 17th May 19, 7:46 AM
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    More importantly, how much damage did you cause to the tree stump?
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 17th May 19, 8:11 AM
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    I suggest OP calls in Special Branch to establish the root cause. It's stumped me.
    • reeac
    • By reeac 17th May 19, 9:31 AM
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    Obstructive tree stumps in car parks must be fairly unusual but some big car parks have low tubular guards around lamp posts which intrude quite a way into marked out spaces. Worth watching out for although I've never hit one yet.
    • Geodark
    • By Geodark 17th May 19, 11:39 AM
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    hahaha, awesome - sums up in one post whats wrong with people today - they screw up and want to know how to make it someone elses fault.
    • foxy-stoat
    • By foxy-stoat 17th May 19, 11:55 AM
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    OK OK lads, 14 posts of slating the OP so I think they will get the message - they probably wont be back.
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 17th May 19, 12:01 PM
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    ...lads...
    Originally posted by foxy-stoat

    That's a bit genderist isn't it? While I am a "lad" there must surely be a possibility that some of the other posters are "ladettes" or "alternatively gendered persons".



    • DianaD
    • By DianaD 19th May 19, 7:27 AM
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    Haha so you all expect small tree stumps when you park in a designated space - that’s the amusing thing!
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 19th May 19, 7:29 AM
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    Haha so you all expect small tree stumps when you park in a designated space - thatís the amusing thing!
    Originally posted by DianaD
    So if you see a tree stump, but don't expect it to be there, it must be a figment of your fevered imagination, so it's OK to just drive into where it seems to be but isn't really?
    • unholyangel
    • By unholyangel 19th May 19, 10:40 AM
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    Haha so you all expect small tree stumps when you park in a designated space - thatís the amusing thing!
    Originally posted by DianaD
    In other words, you weren't looking where you were going and/or turned into the space too fast.

    Would it have mattered if it was a cat, dog, child, high kerb, bollard etc instead of a tree stump? You say you didn't see it so surely the fact that its a tree stump is irrelevant?

    No matter, even ignoring the fact it was a tree stump (and a tree stump located at the edge rather than in the middle of the space), I would have been anticipating the possibility of an obstruction of some sort.
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