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    • shinytop
    • By shinytop 15th May 19, 9:52 PM
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    Vauxhalls - any good?
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    • 15th May 19, 9:52 PM
    Vauxhalls - any good? 15th May 19 at 9:52 PM
    I'm looking at 3 year old Astras/Insignias. There are plenty around and relatively cheap. Any experience - good, bad, indifferent? Or are there better alternatives? It has to be an automatic and I don't mind diesel. The last Vauxhall I drove was my dad's Chevette.
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    • peter12345678910
    • By peter12345678910 16th May 19, 5:42 AM
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    This one looks good for 10000 and the garage has good reviews

    https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201905157987709?radius=1501&make=VAUXHALL&sort=spo nsored&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&on esearchad=Used&postcode=b440pl&price-from=500&advertising-location=at_cars&model=INSIGNIA&page=2

    I would check if it uses a timing chain. And parts should be cheap. Though you need to test drive it and push the throttle to test it.

    Though it may have a scratch at the back on the right and near the front registration and missing a fog light so you should be able to lower the price. But they are a Vauxhall specialist and you can look at other Vauxhall cars.
    Last edited by peter12345678910; 16-05-2019 at 5:57 AM.
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    • Ant555
    • By Ant555 16th May 19, 6:56 AM
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    • 16th May 19, 6:56 AM
    As per the title - If you are looking for personal opinions on Vauxhall then my 2010 Corsa diesel 55k miles is absolutely brilliant. I bought at 3 years old - feels solid, drives well, feels safe.

    Cosmetics - The paintwork on it is definitely top quality as it always comes up fantastic with very little effort, the alloy wheels are also remarkably clean and free of marks whereas the other two cars of ours with alloy wheels are an absolute nightmare to clean.

    Oil change every year, had one new set of glow plugs + the brakes and tyres as required but apart from those its low cost and trouble free for me. 30/year tax and I wonder if the diesel Astra you are looking at is the same? I am looking to sell it at the end of this year for various reasons but I really will be sad to see it go.

    Hope this helps
    • foxy-stoat
    • By foxy-stoat 16th May 19, 8:24 AM
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    Research the specific engine your thinking of buying as plenty of Vauxhalls are good, plenty are dreadful.
    • LandyAndy
    • By LandyAndy 16th May 19, 8:33 AM
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    • 16th May 19, 8:33 AM
    They'll be better now that they are rebadged Peugeots instead of rebadged Opels
    • alan_d
    • By alan_d 16th May 19, 9:17 AM
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    • 16th May 19, 9:17 AM
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    I live in a Vauxhall factory town so there are a LOT around.
    The amount of smoking, rattly Vauxhalls I see is enough to prevent me from buying one. They are cheap for a reason, rubbish cars.
    • Sea Shell
    • By Sea Shell 16th May 19, 9:52 AM
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    We've just worked out we've had 10 between us over the years, and they've never given us a days trouble and not missed a beat. Great value for money in our opinion. 2.0 TDi Astra (J) went really well, but we changed to a late 1.4 Turbo petrol (J) due to reduced milage.
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    • shinytop
    • By shinytop 16th May 19, 9:52 AM
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    • 16th May 19, 9:52 AM
    This one looks good for 10000 and the garage has good reviews

    https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201905157987709?radius=1501&make=VAUXHALL&sort=spo nsored&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&on esearchad=Used&postcode=b440pl&price-from=500&advertising-location=at_cars&model=INSIGNIA&page=2

    I would check if it uses a timing chain. And parts should be cheap. Though you need to test drive it and push the throttle to test it.

    Though it may have a scratch at the back on the right and near the front registration and missing a fog light so you should be able to lower the price. But they are a Vauxhall specialist and you can look at other Vauxhall cars.
    Originally posted by peter12345678910
    yup that's the sort of thing I'm looking at.

    Also good point about looking at specific engines. One of my other thoughts is that since most police forces use them they can't be that bad...
    • shinytop
    • By shinytop 16th May 19, 9:53 AM
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    We've just worked out we've had 10 between us over the years, and they've never given us a days trouble and not missed a beat. Great value for money in our opinion. 2.0 TDi Astra (J) went really well, but we changed to a late 1.4 Turbo petrol (J) due to reduced milage.
    Originally posted by Sea Shell
    Whats's the mpg like in the 1.4 petrol? I would probably prefer petrol but not if it's going to cost a lot more to run
    • sheramber
    • By sheramber 16th May 19, 11:50 AM
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    My sister still runs around in her 14 year old Astra that she has had since new.

    It still looks good and runs well.

    It has had routine maintenance and servicing but she has not had any large expense with it.
    • Sea Shell
    • By Sea Shell 16th May 19, 1:44 PM
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    Whats's the mpg like in the 1.4 petrol? I would probably prefer petrol but not if it's going to cost a lot more to run
    Originally posted by shinytop
    It's the 140 bhp one we've got. We get about 37mpg running local urban. But just done a long 175 mile duel carriageway run and got 45mpg, fully laden boot, 2 passengers. You do have to push it a bit to get the performance compared to the diesel, but it's plenty for what we need!!

    We have the manuals though ...sorry, just read that you're after automatic. We've never had one of them, so have no idea if the gearboxes are any good.
    Last edited by Sea Shell; 16-05-2019 at 2:15 PM.
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    • iolanthe07
    • By iolanthe07 16th May 19, 1:56 PM
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    My daughter had an automatic Astra which was OK, but very thirsty.
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    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 16th May 19, 2:15 PM
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    It's the 140 bhp one we've got. We get about 37mpg running local urban. But just done a long 175 mile duel carriageway run and got 45mpg, fully laden boot, 2 passengers. You do have to push it a bit to get the performance compared to the diesel, but it's plenty for what we need!!
    Originally posted by Sea Shell
    A 140BHP petrol will accelerate as fast as a 140BHP diesel assuming everything else is equal however because the power is higher up in the rev range on a petrol you have to keep the revs higher to get the benefit - my MX5 for example comes alive once you get above 3000RPM and is as flat as a fart below it, my diesel Mondeo will pick up from 2000RPM. Diesels "feel" faster because they have gobs of torque low down in the rev range where people drive more often.
    • Sea Shell
    • By Sea Shell 16th May 19, 2:27 PM
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    Yep you don't get that "boot up the bum" like you do from the diesel!!!

    Just asking DH about this too... also they don't do all trim levels / all engines in the auto, so your choices are limited too.
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    • shinytop
    • By shinytop 16th May 19, 3:40 PM
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    Yep you don't get that "boot up the bum" like you do from the diesel!!!

    Just asking DH about this too... also they don't do all trim levels / all engines in the auto, so your choices are limited too.
    Originally posted by Sea Shell
    Thanks. I get my "boot up the bum" on 2 wheels so just need performance to be OK. I've found 1.6LD, 2.0LD and 1.4i Astra in autos so they are there - just not as much choice.
    • shinytop
    • By shinytop 16th May 19, 3:46 PM
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    I live in a Vauxhall factory town so there are a LOT around.
    The amount of smoking, rattly Vauxhalls I see is enough to prevent me from buying one. They are cheap for a reason, rubbish cars.
    Originally posted by alan_d
    Thank you for your well-though out, unbiased and insightful analysis of Vauxhall cars; it's information like this that makes me come back again and again to this forum. I'll be crossing them off my list of potential cars and telling everyone I know how bad they are.

    PS why did they sack you anyway?
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 16th May 19, 3:58 PM
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    SWMBO used to have a 1.4 petrol automatic Corsa. Never had any real issues with it as far as I can remember, other than the paint fading. (It was red - a lot of red cars fade with age). It was nice to drive and the auto box seemed to work OK. (It wasn't a performance machine by any shout, but would go quickly enough if you pushed it).

    What's your 2-wheeled beast? (I've been away from 2 wheels for a number of years now, after I did a bad impersonation of Superman off my XJ900S Diversion. My beast before that was a GPZ600R).
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    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 16th May 19, 6:22 PM
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    Thank you for your well-though out, unbiased and insightful analysis of Vauxhall cars; it's information like this that makes me come back again and again to this forum. I'll be crossing them off my list of potential cars and telling everyone I know how bad they are.

    PS why did they sack you anyway?
    Originally posted by shinytop
    +1

    Has never owned one but has taken exception to them {for some reason} and therefore they must be bad cars.
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    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 16th May 19, 6:26 PM
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    My tuppenceworth.

    I've owned several personally - my last being an Insignia CDTI SRi. I thought it was a great car. I certainly got a lot newer / lower mileage car than the equivalent Passat.

    I also had a lot of them when motor trading. In fact i underwrote the trade ins for a local Vauxhall dealer which was often - unsurprisingly - Vauxhalls.

    No particular issues with them, relatively cheap, easy worked at, good workhorses generally.

    One or two of the engines have given trouble - not unlike many manufacturers - so best do your homework on any variant you're looking at.
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    • vansboy
    • By vansboy 16th May 19, 7:38 PM
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    Have a look on www.honestjohn.co.uk the reviews section will cover all makes, good and bad points of each model, too.


    And personally a fan of the brand, up until now, as they are no longer Vauxhall, as such, with the new owners taking much more control of the brand.


    Diesel Astra owner and previously my Omega estate....actually the best car I ever owned and that includes all the Jaguars and Rovers, Audis, Mercedes and other supposedly premium brands. Plus sold plenty of Astravans in the past.


    So looking at a last but one, generation Astra 1.4 would be an ok proposition, for a sensible buy. But the one certainty ou will have, is difficulty comparing the price of one specification against another. Even Vauxhall dealers don't know whats what!!


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