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    • k3caz
    • By k3caz 21st Apr 19, 5:13 PM
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    TA6 Form false information
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    • 21st Apr 19, 5:13 PM
    TA6 Form false information 21st Apr 19 at 5:13 PM
    Hi all,



    We have bought our property.



    Just after some info, i know its too late probably however we noticed on our TA6 form that it says 4.1 kitchen extension undertaken 2014, but on 12.2, has the property been rewired or had any electrical installation work carried out since 1 Jan 2005. Thats been answered No,



    Yet the extension has new lights/sockets and an electric floor installed. surely thats classed as an installation. Any ideas


    K3caz
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    • G_M
    • By G_M 21st Apr 19, 5:25 PM
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    • 21st Apr 19, 5:25 PM
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    • 21st Apr 19, 5:25 PM
    Clearly the kitchen had electrical work done and that has effectively been declared in 4.1.

    What exactly is the reason for your concern?

    Did the extnsion get Building Regs certification (and Planning if required)?
    • k3caz
    • By k3caz 21st Apr 19, 5:30 PM
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    • 21st Apr 19, 5:30 PM
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    • 21st Apr 19, 5:30 PM
    Planning permission yes, no building regs documents, the previous owners issued us with a Lack of Planning and/or Building Regs Policy. The reason is im trying to work out if my earthing is correct as a few of the plugs in the new extension cause the RCD to trip. I also would have thought a Part P should be available
    • G_M
    • By G_M 21st Apr 19, 5:34 PM
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    • 21st Apr 19, 5:34 PM
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    • 21st Apr 19, 5:34 PM
    Planning permission yes, no building regs documents, the previous owners issued us with a Lack of Planning and/or Building Regs Policy. The reason is im trying to work out if my earthing is correct as a few of the plugs in the new extension cause the RCD to trip. I also would have thought a Part P should be available
    Originally posted by k3caz
    well if there were no building regs for the extension, maybe it was a cowboy job...?

    Indemnity insurance policy won't be any help, but you accepted that in lieu of BRs didn't you?

    Given the lack of BRs, did you get a proper survey and electrical inspection done or did you choose to take the risk?
    • k3caz
    • By k3caz 22nd Apr 19, 8:11 AM
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    • 22nd Apr 19, 8:11 AM
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    • 22nd Apr 19, 8:11 AM
    Waiting on council to provide planning permission documentation at this time, the indemity insurance covers for lack of documentation if council/local authority investigates and finds issues. The survey only mention planning reqs for the kitchen orangery roof
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 22nd Apr 19, 8:12 AM
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    • 22nd Apr 19, 8:12 AM
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    • 22nd Apr 19, 8:12 AM
    It's outside any enforcement window anyway.

    So it's just a question of whether the work was done to the then-current standards, which are different to the current ones.
    • GDB2222
    • By GDB2222 22nd Apr 19, 8:19 AM
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    • 22nd Apr 19, 8:19 AM
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    • 22nd Apr 19, 8:19 AM
    You can buy a socket tester for 10 or so. Places like Screwfix are open today, and you can stop speculating and start testing. It might be a trivial problem to fix, but you need some data to work from.

    I don't think you have any chance of a successful complaint against the sellers.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
    • davidmcn
    • By davidmcn 22nd Apr 19, 8:52 AM
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    • 22nd Apr 19, 8:52 AM
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    • 22nd Apr 19, 8:52 AM
    we noticed on our TA6 form that it says 4.1 kitchen extension undertaken 2014, but on 12.2, has the property been rewired or had any electrical installation work carried out since 1 Jan 2005. Thats been answered No,

    Yet the extension has new lights/sockets and an electric floor installed. surely thats classed as an installation.
    Originally posted by k3caz
    Surely it was self-evident that the extension included electrics? I hardly think it was a cunning plot by the vendors to conceal anything.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 22nd Apr 19, 8:57 AM
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    • 22nd Apr 19, 8:57 AM
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    • 22nd Apr 19, 8:57 AM
    You can buy a socket tester for 10 or so. Places like Screwfix are open today, and you can stop speculating and start testing. It might be a trivial problem to fix, but you need some data to work from.
    Originally posted by GDB2222
    ^ This, with bells on.


    But you don't even need spend a tenner. If you're happy to wait a few days, half that.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401493719661
    Plug in, look at lights, KNOW what's right or not right with the wiring to the sockets.

    It won't tell you the bigger picture, but nothing short of a full electrical check by a sparky will - and that'll take hours and cost proper money.
    • dimbo61
    • By dimbo61 22nd Apr 19, 9:01 AM
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    Full eicr check by a qualified electrician cost me 160 with Landlord report.
    • k3caz
    • By k3caz 14th Jun 19, 5:43 PM
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    Went for a full check just to be sure, bad earth point in new extension was causing the trips.

    Didnt cost an arm and leg and had some extra work carried out with new extractor fans for the bathrooms and a few new sockets for the 2nd reception room. All good.
    • Albala
    • By Albala 14th Jun 19, 6:56 PM
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    Thanks for the update, it's always good to hear the end of a story. And sounds like a good outcome.
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