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    • simonineaston
    • By simonineaston 14th Apr 19, 8:49 AM
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    Used car - casting the net wide enough?
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    • 14th Apr 19, 8:49 AM
    Used car - casting the net wide enough? 14th Apr 19 at 8:49 AM
    Hi folks, I just want to make sure I'm doing all I can, so... I'm looking for a used car, a third gen. mini to be precise, and up 'till now, I've been looking on autotrader.co.uk. This has yielded one suitable result, which I went to see on Friday and decided not to buy. Simple question to you good folk - am I casting my net wide enough? Are there other online websites / tools that I should be using?
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    • custardy
    • By custardy 14th Apr 19, 8:52 AM
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    You are online looking for cars and havent even looked on Ebay/Gumtree?
    • DrEskimo
    • By DrEskimo 14th Apr 19, 8:52 AM
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    I also use Motors.co.uk, eBay and pistonheads.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 14th Apr 19, 8:53 AM
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    By "third generation", you mean an F55/56/57, 2013-on?

    There's literally thousands for sale... Autotrader reckons somewhere around 5,400 cars, filtering for "Mini Hatch, 2013-date". Obviously, you're putting budgetary constraints on that, too. But...?

    You say "one suitable result" - how are you narrowing to "suitable"?
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 14th Apr 19, 9:53 AM
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    • 14th Apr 19, 9:53 AM
    Hi folks, I just want to make sure I'm doing all I can, so... I'm looking for a used car, a third gen. mini to be precise, and up 'till now, I've been looking on autotrader.co.uk. This has yielded one suitable result, which I went to see on Friday and decided not to buy. Simple question to you good folk - am I casting my net wide enough? Are there other online websites / tools that I should be using?
    Originally posted by simonineaston
    Clearly you need to be looking further afield than what you've it set to in AT. Theres literally thousands of them for sale. There is no world shortage of them
    "We have normality. I repeat, we have normality. Anything you still can't cope with is therefore your own problem."
    • Tokk
    • By Tokk 14th Apr 19, 12:49 PM
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    The more refinements you put on any search, the more you'll limit your outcomes.

    - Specific model
    - Colour, especially if nonstandard
    - Year
    - Trim level, especially if after special editions
    - Engine
    - Gearbox (in most cars, auto only restricts you... In some manual only does).
    - Private sales only will limit you
    - location (tighter radii will limit it much more)

    They can all limit your options... So besides what we know (specific model, particular years - neither of which should be strangling your search too much from what you've said), what other search options have you put in?
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 14th Apr 19, 5:53 PM
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    • 14th Apr 19, 5:53 PM
    You are online looking for cars and havent even looked on Ebay/Gumtree?
    Originally posted by custardy

    Perhaps the OP doesn't want to be scammed.
    • simonineaston
    • By simonineaston 14th Apr 19, 6:08 PM
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    Indeed, the OP doesn't wish to be scammed... ;-) Setting aside my preferences regarding the individual car I'd like, (and of course Adiran is right when he points out that we're awash with decent, recent minis :-) ), do we think that these so-called vertical search websites work? I have in mind trovit, which if its publicity is to be believed, makes a thorough search of all the individual websites, like parkers / autotrader & honest john and lists cars from them all - is there, as it were, a one-stop shop? And does CarWow and other broker-type sites work for used cars?
    • custardy
    • By custardy 14th Apr 19, 6:12 PM
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    • 14th Apr 19, 6:12 PM
    Perhaps the OP doesn't want to be scammed.
    Originally posted by agrinnall
    What? Are you for real?
    How exactly does buying through ebay make it any different to buying a car from Auto trader?
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 14th Apr 19, 6:32 PM
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    The scammers list on ALL the selling sites. None of them are 100% safe.

    Every purchase requires some common sense. Private seller with 5 cars in various states of repair on his garden. What makes you think the car your buying was not in that condition last week.

    Sellers away but can have the car delivered to you.

    Selling for a friend and i know nothing about it.

    All purchases require some common sense and a bit of detective work. If you know nothing about cars get it checked BEFORE you buy.
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    • k3lvc
    • By k3lvc 14th Apr 19, 6:47 PM
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    Indeed, the OP doesn't wish to be scammed... ;-) Setting aside my preferences regarding the individual car I'd like, (and of course Adiran is right when he points out that we're awash with decent, recent minis :-) ), do we think that these so-called vertical search websites work? I have in mind trovit, which if its publicity is to be believed, makes a thorough search of all the individual websites, like parkers / autotrader & honest john and lists cars from them all - is there, as it were, a one-stop shop? And does CarWow and other broker-type sites work for used cars?
    Originally posted by simonineaston
    I spent ages searching for my R57 JCW but only because I wouldn't compromise on 2 key points - auto and Harmon Kardon.

    I tried all the searches but given the variety of terms available to search and whether a JCW was actually a real JCW or a Cooper S with JCW body kit it was almos impossible. Given your search is only giving a single result then what's so special ?

    As an alternative put a wanted note on the Mini Owners Group FB page ?
    Last edited by k3lvc; 14-04-2019 at 7:20 PM.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 14th Apr 19, 7:34 PM
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    If you're after a very precise spec, then it's more a question of how many were actually built and are actually on sale at any given time...
    • k6chris
    • By k6chris 14th Apr 19, 7:52 PM
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    I don't suppose you want a Red 2015 Roadster Cooper and you live in the East Midlands??? I am about to sell mine and I have the opposite problem of trying to work out where to advertise it!!
    "For every complicated problem, there is always a simple, wrong answer"
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 15th Apr 19, 9:35 AM
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    What? Are you for real?
    How exactly does buying through ebay make it any different to buying a car from Auto trader?
    Originally posted by custardy

    You're the one that lumped Gumtree, a place well known for scams, in with ebay, better than Gumtree but hardly on a par with buying through Autotrader.
    • custardy
    • By custardy 15th Apr 19, 4:53 PM
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    You're the one that lumped Gumtree, a place well known for scams, in with ebay, better than Gumtree but hardly on a par with buying through Autotrader.
    Originally posted by agrinnall
    Follow the same basic care as you would with any private sale and its just like buying from any other outlet.
    Usually greed gets people scammed on Gumtree with car scams.
    What protection does Auto trader offer?
    • EdGasketTheSecond
    • By EdGasketTheSecond 15th Apr 19, 6:31 PM
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    What protection does Auto trader offer?
    Originally posted by custardy

    They at least tell you at the outset if its an insurance write-off and the category; better than nothing.
    • custardy
    • By custardy 15th Apr 19, 6:40 PM
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    They at least tell you at the outset if its an insurance write-off and the category; better than nothing.
    Originally posted by EdGasketTheSecond
    Jesus. So a basic check you can do using the auto trader site for free by starting to create an ad.
    Next?
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 15th Apr 19, 8:19 PM
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    Follow the same basic care as you would with any private sale and its just like buying from any other outlet.
    Usually greed gets people scammed on Gumtree with car scams.
    What protection does Auto trader offer?
    Originally posted by custardy

    Well for one thing the OP hasn't suggested in any way that he's looking for a private sale, and as he's using Autotrader the chances are he's looking to buy from a dealer, and I'd rather buy from one that uses Autotrader than either of your options.
    • custardy
    • By custardy 16th Apr 19, 3:33 AM
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    Well for one thing the OP hasn't suggested in any way that he's looking for a private sale, and as he's using Autotrader the chances are he's looking to buy from a dealer, and I'd rather buy from one that uses Autotrader than either of your options.
    Originally posted by agrinnall
    So let me get this straight. You are now saying the OP wants a trade sale. I never said otherwise. The basic precautions of a private sale cover trade sales too
    So no trade sales on Gumtree? Are all the trade sales scammers on Gumtree?
    Still waiting on the 'protection' that Autotrader offers the OP.
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