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    • cyclonebri1
    • By cyclonebri1 15th Feb 19, 1:35 PM
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    PIP after age 65?
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    • 15th Feb 19, 1:35 PM
    PIP after age 65? 15th Feb 19 at 1:35 PM
    I realise that PIP can be reduced at any time, but can someone who receives low rate mobility prior to age 65 claim higher rate at their "review"?.

    Not for me but a close relative.
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    • WhenIam64
    • By WhenIam64 15th Feb 19, 1:51 PM
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    • 15th Feb 19, 1:51 PM
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    • 15th Feb 19, 1:51 PM
    Has the relative reached State Retirement Age?

    See the advice here

    https://www.gov.uk/pip
    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 15th Feb 19, 1:53 PM
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    • 15th Feb 19, 1:53 PM
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    • 15th Feb 19, 1:53 PM
    I realise that PIP can be reduced at any time, but can someone who receives low rate mobility prior to age 65 claim higher rate at their "review"?
    Originally posted by cyclonebri1
    Once they are over pension age, which is slightly higher than 65, the mobility rate award cannot be increased.
    • pmlindyloo
    • By pmlindyloo 15th Feb 19, 2:00 PM
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    • 15th Feb 19, 2:00 PM
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    • 15th Feb 19, 2:00 PM
    AgeUK

    If you are 65 or over You cannot normally start to receive either rate of the mobility component after the age of 65, although you continue to receive it if it was awarded before your 65th birthday. If awarded the standard rate of the mobility component before you reach 65, you cannot move to the enhanced rate if your needs increase after you reach 65. If awarded the enhanced rate of the mobility component before you reach 65 and your mobility needs reduce to a level that qualifies for the standard rate after 65, you can move to the standard rate (and back to the enhanced rate if your mobility needs increase again within a year). If you are over 65 and receive the mobility component and you start to have daily living needs or your need for assistance with daily living increases, you can ask for a supersession and qualify for the standard or enhanced rate of the daily living component in the same way as those under 65.
    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 15th Feb 19, 2:24 PM
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    • 15th Feb 19, 2:24 PM
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    • 15th Feb 19, 2:24 PM
    The information on the the AgeUK website is slightly out of date. Everywhere it says "65" you should read it as "pension age" which is now a moving target and for all new retirees is higher than 65.
    • cyclonebri1
    • By cyclonebri1 16th Feb 19, 6:14 PM
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    • 16th Feb 19, 6:14 PM
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    • 16th Feb 19, 6:14 PM
    Thanks all, the person in question is female and retirement age is approx 66, will check later, but anyway it will be after the 2 year award is reviewed so we need to think very carefully whether we should appeal.

    Will thank you all on the button shortly once I have my head around this.
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    • cyclonebri1
    • By cyclonebri1 17th Feb 19, 11:07 AM
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    • 17th Feb 19, 11:07 AM
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    • 17th Feb 19, 11:07 AM
    Can someone point me in the direction of a link to where the PIP mobility requirements state that the distance should be able to be done repeatedly and in good time. I can remember snippets but don't recall where the info, if it's accurate, is derived from.
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    • NeilCr
    • By NeilCr 17th Feb 19, 11:12 AM
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    • 17th Feb 19, 11:12 AM
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    • 17th Feb 19, 11:12 AM
    Is it the information here re Q14

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/pip/help-with-your-claim/fill-in-form/14-moving-around/
    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 17th Feb 19, 12:17 PM
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    • 17th Feb 19, 12:17 PM
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    • 17th Feb 19, 12:17 PM
    Can someone point me in the direction of a link to where the PIP mobility requirements state that the distance should be able to be done repeatedly and in good time. I can remember snippets but don't recall where the info, if it's accurate, is derived from.
    Originally posted by cyclonebri1
    See this https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/personal-independence-payment-assessment-guide-for-assessment-providers/pip-assessment-guide-part-2-the-assessment-criteria

    Read part 2.2 in particular about 'reliability'. This applies to all the descriptors.
    • cyclonebri1
    • By cyclonebri1 17th Feb 19, 1:16 PM
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    No, it's not the document I recall reading, there is more detail in the page I read just can't recall what site. May even have been in the PIP notes on filling out the form which for some reason I can't find, or did that go back with the application thinking about it.
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    • cyclonebri1
    • By cyclonebri1 17th Feb 19, 1:19 PM
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    That;s the one cheers.
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    • cyclonebri1
    • By cyclonebri1 18th Feb 19, 7:59 AM
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    In line with all this, do many decisions get changed at the letter asking for mandatory reconsideration stage?. We are doing this as I now understand it, it's the 1st stage in the appeal process.
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.

    Always expect the unexpectedand then you won't be dissapointed
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 18th Feb 19, 8:20 AM
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    In line with all this, do many decisions get changed at the letter asking for mandatory reconsideration stage?. We are doing this as I now understand it, it's the 1st stage in the appeal process.
    Originally posted by cyclonebri1
    Only 18% are successful, so it's rare and most have to take it to Tribunal.
    • cyclonebri1
    • By cyclonebri1 18th Feb 19, 8:30 AM
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    Thanks, I was expecting that, but if that's the process.........
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.

    Always expect the unexpectedand then you won't be dissapointed
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 18th Feb 19, 8:41 AM
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    Thanks, I was expecting that, but if that's the process.........
    Originally posted by cyclonebri1
    Unfortunately, you can't take it to Tribunal without asking for the MR first. When requesting the Tribunal you need the MR decision letter.
    • cyclonebri1
    • By cyclonebri1 18th Feb 19, 12:36 PM
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    Yes, I'm with all that
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    • cyclonebri1
    • By cyclonebri1 15th Apr 19, 9:03 AM
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    Just to end this, I sent in the letter at the time I posted last, the reply arrived Friday last.

    Up the 18% figure by a point or 2 as it was successful and a 10 point mobility decision was increased to 12. Had it not been I'm doubtful I would have appealed as I'd fired all my bullets in the lengthy mandatory letter I replied with. It was based on the ability to judge walking ability over time inline with the guidelines I'd read.

    Thanks again to all who helped.

    Just as an aside, do all letters from the DWP arrive in the Friday post? I have had to deal with a number of issues with them and I think without fail the brown envelope has arrived on Friday. To give a couple of days cooling of period before writing in if the decision isn't what was hoped for perhaps?
    Last edited by cyclonebri1; 15-04-2019 at 9:07 AM.
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.

    Always expect the unexpectedand then you won't be dissapointed
    • sammyjammy
    • By sammyjammy 15th Apr 19, 4:39 PM
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    Just to end this, I sent in the letter at the time I posted last, the reply arrived Friday last.

    Up the 18% figure by a point or 2 as it was successful and a 10 point mobility decision was increased to 12. Had it not been I'm doubtful I would have appealed as I'd fired all my bullets in the lengthy mandatory letter I replied with. It was based on the ability to judge walking ability over time inline with the guidelines I'd read.

    Thanks again to all who helped.

    Just as an aside, do all letters from the DWP arrive in the Friday post? I have had to deal with a number of issues with them and I think without fail the brown envelope has arrived on Friday. To give a couple of days cooling of period before writing in if the decision isn't what was hoped for perhaps?
    Originally posted by cyclonebri1
    Well done!


    It does seem that a lot are received on a Friday or a Saturday but I can assure you its not done on purpose, that would take some doing!
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