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    • Anthonyk900
    • By Anthonyk900 13th Jan 19, 1:20 PM
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    Esa going onto universal credit
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    • 13th Jan 19, 1:20 PM
    Esa going onto universal credit 13th Jan 19 at 1:20 PM
    Hi I知 just wondering I知 on esa atm and living with parents but wanting to move out, as universal credit is in my area I will have to claim it as I will need housing benefit, what will I get on universal credit if I am In the support group now can someone give me some advice please?
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    • Anthonyk900
    • By Anthonyk900 13th Jan 19, 1:26 PM
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    Plus I had an assessment in September 2018 will I have to go for another assessment?
    • Alice Holt
    • By Alice Holt 13th Jan 19, 1:31 PM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 1:31 PM
    https://www.gov.uk/universal-credit/what-youll-get

    Looks like:
    Basic allowance: plus
    LCWRA element (providing you are reassessed as remaining in the Support Group / LCWRA); plus
    Housing element
    Alice Holt Forest situated some 4 miles south of Farnham forms the most northerly gateway to the South Downs National Park.
    • tomtom256
    • By tomtom256 13th Jan 19, 1:35 PM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 1:35 PM
    https://www.gov.uk/universal-credit/what-youll-get

    Looks like:
    Basic allowance: plus
    LCWRA element (providing you are reassessed as remaining in the Support Group / LCWRA); plus
    Housing element
    Originally posted by Alice Holt

    Yep but may not get in all in your first payment though as the case manager will need to do a switch in the background, but you should then get any back pay. The LCWRA part that is.



    This happens as the two systems cannot talk to each other.
    • Anthonyk900
    • By Anthonyk900 13th Jan 19, 1:37 PM
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    So what would I get on universal credit basic money 」250 a month then extra for my esa and then housing benefit on top like it’s so confusing my head is ready to explode?
    • Anthonyk900
    • By Anthonyk900 13th Jan 19, 1:42 PM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 1:42 PM
    I don’t know what to do just stay with parents and put up with constant arguments as my mental health depression and anxiety is getting really bad or move out and probs stuggle even more and get more depressed because of a different situation then going to face to face assessments are the worst when you have really bad anxiety and I thought we’ll probs not have to go for at least another year then bang probs have to go through it all again.
    • Anthonyk900
    • By Anthonyk900 13th Jan 19, 2:09 PM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 2:09 PM
    Done a benefits calculator on turn2us and they are say universal credit 」320 a month and the extra is 」550 for esa so total is 」870 a month so I知 guessing the universal credit side is my housing benefit am I right here?
    • Anthonyk900
    • By Anthonyk900 13th Jan 19, 3:02 PM
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    Can anyone tell me if this is right ?
    • venison
    • By venison 13th Jan 19, 3:31 PM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 3:31 PM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 3:31 PM
    I suppose the $64,000 dollar question is have you found someone where else to live, as a single man it may not be easy
    Brexit here we c................crash.
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 13th Jan 19, 3:51 PM
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    Done a benefits calculator on turn2us and they are say universal credit 」320 a month and the extra is 」550 for esa so total is 」870 a month so I知 guessing the universal credit side is my housing benefit am I right here?
    Originally posted by Anthonyk900
    You won't receive ESA and UC. Once you apply for UC then your ESA will transfer across to UC. See post #3 for the elements you'll recieve... single person under if 25 」251. 77 plus LCWRA 」328.32 and the housing element, what ever that is for your area. Do you claim PIP? If not then you'll only receive the shared rate of LHA if you're under 35. If you're receiving PIP then it will be the 1 bedroom rate.



    As has been mentioned it's not going to be easy finding somewhere to live for a single person claiming benefits. A lot of landlords won't accept people claiming benefits. Those that do will most likely ask for a guarantor.
    • ev8
    • By ev8 13th Jan 19, 3:58 PM
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    Done a benefits calculator on turn2us and they are say universal credit 」320 a month and the extra is 」550 for esa so total is 」870 a month so I知 guessing the universal credit side is my housing benefit am I right here?
    Originally posted by Anthonyk900
    How do you do this? I get confused easily, if you want to work out for universal credit do you tick you are already getting it or say no?
    • Anthonyk900
    • By Anthonyk900 13th Jan 19, 4:00 PM
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    Thank you poppy12345 that’s helped a lot, yeah I know I won’t get esa it will be universal credit but just didn’t get how it worked so really I will get 」580 a month all together and housing benefit on top? I have just applied for pip so just waiting to hear back as I keep getting told to apply but I think I will get knocked back as it’s just mental health and I know people who have been kicked off it.
    • Anthonyk900
    • By Anthonyk900 13th Jan 19, 4:04 PM
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    You put in your information if you are about to move into your own place and claiming old esa then you will get put onto universal credit and I put I was claiming housing benefit already put in what I have been told by crisis about shared room rate and then you put in how much esa you get and it will tell you what you get now and there’s a button that say what you will get on universal credit click on that and it tells you what you get universal credit tbh I’m confused to getting told different things.
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 13th Jan 19, 4:48 PM
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    Housing benefit is the housing element part of UC and it's all paid as one payment. As i said, what you'll get will depend on the LHA for your area. You can check this by putting your postcode/details in here, make sure you put the shared rate. https://lha-direct.voa.gov.uk/
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 13th Jan 19, 4:52 PM
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    How do you do this? I get confused easily, if you want to work out for universal credit do you tick you are already getting it or say no?
    Originally posted by ev8
    According to this thread here.
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5724662


    You're claiming ESA still. No point putting your details into a benefits calculator for UC because the transitional protection isn't in place yet. You won't have to move across for quite some time yet unless a change of circumstances prompts a move, as explained in thread above.
    • Anthonyk900
    • By Anthonyk900 13th Jan 19, 4:56 PM
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    Yes I am claiming old style esa but live with parents never had my own place before and I’m looking to move out so will need to put a new claim in for housing benefit which is universal credit so that’s change in circumstances hence why I have came on here for info on what I will get and my shared room rate is 」67.62 a week so will I get that on top of my 」580 a month ?
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 13th Jan 19, 5:03 PM
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    Yes I am claiming old style esa but live with parents never had my own place before and I知 looking to move out so will need to put a new claim in for housing benefit which is universal credit so that痴 change in circumstances hence why I have came on here for info on what I will get and my shared room rate is 」67.62 a week so will I get that on top of my 」580 a month ?
    Originally posted by Anthonyk900
    Yes, i know you're claiming ESA and want to move. My above comment wasn't for you, which was why i quoted someone else's comment.



    Yes, 」67.62 per week extra, which is 」293 per month for the housing element. So unless you find somewhere for this amount then you'll need to pay the extra. If your PIP claim is successful you'll receive the 1 bed rate, which will be more. Depending on where in the country you live, it could be difficult to find somewhere for this amount, if you're planning on living alone.
    • Anthonyk900
    • By Anthonyk900 13th Jan 19, 5:07 PM
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    Where I’m getting confused is atm I get esa which is 」127 a week so 」508 a month atm I don’t claim housing benefit but as I’m looking to move out I will need to make a new claim and that’s uc so I have calculated what I will get on universal credit which will be 」251+」328 for esa which is in universal lump sum and then plus 」270.48 housing benefit which is in lump sum universal credit so all together I will get 」850 is this right
    • Anthonyk900
    • By Anthonyk900 13th Jan 19, 5:10 PM
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    So sorry poppy12345 didn’t realise new to this
    • Anthonyk900
    • By Anthonyk900 13th Jan 19, 5:11 PM
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    And I live in Newcastle so it’s fairly cheap
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