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    • houseworrier
    • By houseworrier 13th Jan 19, 2:29 AM
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    Survey concerns
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    • 13th Jan 19, 2:29 AM
    Survey concerns 13th Jan 19 at 2:29 AM
    Hi

    So had our homebuyers survey back and a few concerns but no 3s which is great. Got a few 2s. Would any of these put you off buying a place? We got the seller down 9k on price so I don't think they will come down again if any work needed.

    It's a 3-bed house built in 1935, freehold property.

    Roof
    - moss deposits
    - flashings on extension 'sub par' compared to rest of house
    - loft insulation needs upgrading to meet 'current standards'
    - roof/attic has poor ventilation, needs vents apparently

    Wall
    - There are signs that the building is affected by wall tie failure, which can be serious. "Specialist investigation and remedial work is now required".

    Ceiling
    - one bedroom ceiling has a textured finish, apparently some of these have low levels of asbestos.

    Gutters
    - all in working order but some old cast iron ones have signs of corrosion.

    What do people think?

    Wall tie repay is apparently 1k to 2k which I'm happy to pay for rather than renegotiate and risk falling through especially as we got seller down on price
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    • houseworrier
    • By houseworrier 13th Jan 19, 2:32 AM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 2:32 AM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 2:32 AM
    Forgot to add - surveyor valued the house bang on the price we agreed - is this normal?

    Mortgage provider seem happy to proceed without any work being done
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 13th Jan 19, 2:47 AM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 2:47 AM
    You've answered your own question about the only potentially substantial issue, which will need investigation, giving you time to save for it, if necessary. The rest is maintenance and waffle.


    For a 1930s house, that's a pretty good report.
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    • Chimpy9
    • By Chimpy9 13th Jan 19, 7:08 AM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 7:08 AM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 7:08 AM
    I've just had a survey on a 1930's house and had quite a lot of 3s on it. Mainly the roof but I've had it checked out by a contractor and it's no where near as bad the survey was making out.
    • Parkingfines
    • By Parkingfines 13th Jan 19, 8:04 AM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 8:04 AM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 8:04 AM
    There is nothing wrong with a bit of moss on a roof!! We have a north facing roof and it has moss on clay tiles!! Not worried at all
    • G_M
    • By G_M 13th Jan 19, 1:28 PM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 1:28 PM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 1:28 PM
    Only one potential issue here
    Roof
    - moss deposits so what? Either ignore, or climb a ladder and remove the moss.
    - flashings on extension 'sub par' compared to rest of house but presumably water-tight or the survey would have said so and advised replacement.
    - loft insulation needs upgrading to meet 'current standards' Thousandsof properties don't meet 'current standards' in thousands of ways. If you want to make your house cosier (I would) spend 20 at B&Q and lay more insulation the 1st Sunday after you move in
    - roof/attic has poor ventilation, needs vents apparently vents cost about 5 each. Man on ladder for half an hour......?

    Wall
    - There are signs that the building is affected by wall tie failure, which can be serious. "Specialist investigation and remedial work is now required". I would want to know more about this.

    Ceiling
    - one bedroom ceiling has a textured finish, apparently some of these have low levels of asbestos. Do you like the textured finish?
    If yes, do nothing - any asbestos (if present) will be no threat if undisturbed.
    If no, skim the ceiling with plaster to make it smooth. Again,
    any asbestos (if present) will be no threat if undisturbed.

    Gutters
    - all in working order but some old cast iron ones have signs of corrosion. Personally I love the old cast iron ones. As long as they are not actually leaking, what's a bit of rust? Clean them up and repaint if you want to preserve their life.

    What do people think?

    Wall tie repay is apparently 1k to 2k which I'm happy to pay for rather than renegotiate and risk falling through especially as we got seller down on price
    Originally posted by houseworrier
    Surveys should not be just seen as helping buyers decide whether to buy and whether to re-negotiate price.

    They should be seen as providing useful information about the property you are buying, and as providing a 'to do' list for the first 6 months.


    You now have a useful 'to do' list.
    Last edited by G_M; 13-01-2019 at 1:32 PM.
    • Bossypants
    • By Bossypants 13th Jan 19, 5:16 PM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 5:16 PM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 5:16 PM
    I would get an couple of quotes in for the wall tie work. When I had it done on my three bed semi last January, the total was just shy of 5,000, and that was competitive for the area.
    • Sibz
    • By Sibz 13th Jan 19, 5:38 PM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 5:38 PM
    Not long sold a house built around the same time - there are always going to be 2's on reports for buildings of that age. The 3's are where you have to worry mostly. Have you contacted the surveyor to ask them to elaborate on the wall ties?
    • houseworrier
    • By houseworrier 13th Jan 19, 7:30 PM
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    Thanks for settling my nerves on most of this and for advice

    I spoke to surveyor on wall tie failure. He said he couldn't be sure there was wall tie failure just that there were signs on the building that it may be affected by it. He didn't seem overly concerned but being a first time buyer I'd never heard of it so was quite worried. He advised that repair would be about 1k to 2k.

    I believe they have to drill into the wall to check for failure? I can't see the seller being happy with this?

    I am happy to go ahead with purchase and save up for repair I think.
    • societys child
    • By societys child 13th Jan 19, 7:42 PM
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    He said he couldn't be sure there was wall tie failure
    So, just speculation.
    I believe they have to drill into the wall to check for failure? I can't see the seller being happy with this?
    Neither can I. I'd want more evidence than the surveyor just covering his backside. It's not such a big job, there's even equipment available to DIY
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    • PhilE
    • By PhilE 13th Jan 19, 8:16 PM
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    Just the wall. If the artex ceiling is in good condition, nothing to worry about.

    Moss should be cleaned off once per year, over time it can start to get under tiles. Can also get in drains and clog gutters. But if the surveyor has looked at the condition of the roof and given no indication of damage, it should be ok.

    As for his price value equaling what you offered, in my experience they usually do this.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 13th Jan 19, 8:30 PM
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    As for his price value equaling what you offered, in my experience they usually do this.
    Originally posted by PhilE
    Yes, they always match the agreed price, unless they decide the house is definitely over-valued.


    People are often surprised at this 'coincidence.'
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    • ThePants999
    • By ThePants999 13th Jan 19, 8:48 PM
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    Yeah, surveyors doing a homebuyers survey don't actually "value the house" per se - they judge whether what you're paying is reasonable, so if they think "yes" then their "valuation" will be exactly your offer.
    • houseworrier
    • By houseworrier 13th Jan 19, 10:51 PM
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    Ok thanks for help everyone. I think I'll just plough on and get it repaired in the summer. Got it for below asking price and a house on the same road just gone on sale for same asking price which is nowhere near as nice interior and exterior so think we are getting a good deal. If you think I'm mad let me know!
    • alumende27
    • By alumende27 13th Jan 19, 11:36 PM
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    Hi
    Ceiling
    - one bedroom ceiling has a textured finish, apparently some of these have low levels of asbestos.
    Originally posted by houseworrier
    Unless you're planning to sand this off (not recommended!) it's really not an issue that it might contain asbestos. Virtually every artex ceiling in existence has the same properties.

    One thing to bear in mind if you plan to skim over this with a layer of plaster - a 1930s house may have original lathe and plaster ceilings and may not cope particularly well with the additional weight, especially if the artex was to hide cracks!

    Personally, if you want to get rid of the artexed ceiling I'd recommend plasterboard screwed through the ceiling into joists and plastering that. You can get some gel that you can use to get rid of artex, but it's a bit of pain and very messy. (X-TEX - toolstation sell it)
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