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    • Undervalued
    • By Undervalued 10th Jan 19, 12:11 PM
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    Humax Hard Disk recorder problem
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    • 10th Jan 19, 12:11 PM
    Humax Hard Disk recorder problem 10th Jan 19 at 12:11 PM
    Any words of wisdom would be appreciated.....

    I have a Humax HDR which is maybe ten years old (SCART sockets only , no HDMI) which which is capable of recording two Freeview channels at the same time.

    From time to time (maybe 1 in 5) it fails to record a scheduled program. This can often, but not always, be one of a series set via the series link function despite it having recorded other programs in the series correctly. If the program is missed it still appears in the Scheduled Recordings list as if it was going to have another go in a year's time!

    Any ideas?

    Thanks.
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    • Undervalued
    • By Undervalued 11th Jan 19, 7:50 PM
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    What I do is copy recordings I really want to keep onto a memory stick, and from there onto my PC's external drive - each recording consists of 3 data files. The copy option (it's not quick) is in File Manager in Options in Media. Then the recording can be deleted from the hard drive of the Humax. If need be they can be restored the same way - or played direct from a stick if you want - or, they can be played on the PC by a media player (I use VLC).


    Rarely, we do get a problem with a recording causing the PVR to reboot; deleting that recording makes it go away.


    A while ago we had some interference from a bush which had grown too tall.. I guess that's unlikely if your dish is on the chimney!


    Ours is 10 years old too, and still OK - though OH keeps recording stuff she never gets round to seeing !
    Originally posted by egarobar
    Wasn't aware mine had a USB socket? I'll have a look later!

    If it does but is very slow, presumably only USB1?
    • psychic teabag
    • By psychic teabag 11th Jan 19, 11:32 PM
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    It's a 9200T I have, and it does have a USB socket, but the software on the device cannot write to it. Instead, it was supplied with a program you could run on a pc to retrieve programs. But that only came for windows, and I don't have that. There was a 3rd-party linux version, which worked initially, but became very flakey. (I think I was using it originally on a pc with usb 1, but later usb 2, and they didn't seem to work well together.

    Instead, there was some other 3rd-party software which allowed you to read the disk directly. (Remove it and attach it to pc.) It's formatted in a proprietry filesystem, so can't just use standard programs to copy files off. (I think newer humax devices may use a native linux filesystem.)
    • Undervalued
    • By Undervalued 12th Jan 19, 10:16 AM
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    It's a 9200T I have, and it does have a USB socket, but the software on the device cannot write to it. Instead, it was supplied with a program you could run on a pc to retrieve programs. But that only came for windows, and I don't have that. There was a 3rd-party linux version, which worked initially, but became very flakey. (I think I was using it originally on a pc with usb 1, but later usb 2, and they didn't seem to work well together.

    Instead, there was some other 3rd-party software which allowed you to read the disk directly. (Remove it and attach it to pc.) It's formatted in a proprietry filesystem, so can't just use standard programs to copy files off. (I think newer humax devices may use a native linux filesystem.)
    Originally posted by psychic teabag
    There is no USB socket on mine.

    If I end up replacing the recorder then I probably will extract the HD, put it in an external housing and connect it to a PC to get to any important recordings.

    I will try it for a few weeks with the auto program time adjustment turned off. That may well be sufficient for my limited use.
    • SteveJW
    • By SteveJW 12th Jan 19, 12:46 PM
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    Humax PVR
    The early Humax machines had a history of skipping recording various programs. Humax promised an update but it never came
    My 9200T is still going strong, bought at a car boot sale for 10. It occasionaly skips programs, I find a retune sometime helps.
    Rarely use it now with a smart TV.
    I'm not sure if Humax records in a strange format and although a PC will read the disc you cannot play the files, may be wrong
    • D_M_E
    • By D_M_E 12th Jan 19, 1:26 PM
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    There is a program called HUMAXRW which will get the recordings off the disk and put them on your PC,but, as you say, you have to remove the Humax drive and put it in a caddy to be able to use it.

    Have a 9200T here, not used for a good while but it had the problem you describe.
    Don't know why but it had a fault on the power supply and once that was fixed the problem went away.
    • psychic teabag
    • By psychic teabag 13th Jan 19, 6:50 PM
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    If you do decide to replace it, since you only record occassionally, what you could do is get a USB freeview tuner for your PC, and get it to do the recording. Saves you having to run something with a dedicated hard disk. You can get an SD tuner for under 10, though HD look like they're a bit more.
    • Undervalued
    • By Undervalued 14th Jan 19, 8:56 AM
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    If you do decide to replace it, since you only record occassionally, what you could do is get a USB freeview tuner for your PC, and get it to do the recording. Saves you having to run something with a dedicated hard disk. You can get an SD tuner for under 10, though HD look like they're a bit more.
    Originally posted by psychic teabag
    Interesting thought, thanks.

    Currently my main PC is nowhere near a TV aerial feed although obviously that could be remedied with a bit of work.

    Obviously the need for a recorder is less than it was with the various catch up services and I already have a Chromecast which generally works well.

    Do middle market TVs these days have a second tuner and the ability to record to an external HD or USB stick? If so, that may be money better spent than replacing the Humax box. My current TV is a seven years, fairly basic 32in Samsung and doesn't have any in built smart functions or the ability to record.
    • psychic teabag
    • By psychic teabag 14th Jan 19, 10:52 AM
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    Interesting thought, thanks.

    Currently my main PC is nowhere near a TV aerial feed although obviously that could be remedied with a bit of work.
    Originally posted by Undervalued
    Depending on how good your reception is, an indoor ariel might be good enough. (The tuner I got came with a little ariel.)

    Do middle market TVs these days have a second tuner and the ability to record to an external HD or USB stick? If so, that may be money better spent than replacing the Humax box. My current TV is a seven years, fairly basic 32in Samsung and doesn't have any in built smart functions or the ability to record.
    According to https://www.avforums.com/article/smart-tv-pvr-personal-video-recorder-freeview-freesat-features-explained.10724 most are single-tuner. It also says that they tend to format the disk in a proprietry format, to prevent you from copying files to another device.

    I have no experience with TVs that can record. My MIL has one, and IIRC, the stick could be formatted as either FAT or proprietary, but the tv could only offer pausing live tv with the latter. (Or something like that.)
    • Mr Meanie
    • By Mr Meanie 14th Jan 19, 6:06 PM
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    Does your 9200T always show the correct time when in standby mode ?

    As I remember there was a common fault with the clock module on the 9200T which made scheduled recordings unreliable.

    The fault was due to ageing of the electronic components on the clock pcb and usually only happened on units which had been in use for more than about seven years.
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    • psychic teabag
    • By psychic teabag 15th Jan 19, 11:46 AM
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    There was a common problem with 9200 where the display would just show '--:--' - mine did that. It turned out that there was a very simple fix - you had to clean the circuit board ! There was some sort of film left by the manufacturing process, and cleaning it off worked for many people (inc. me).

    https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/the-9200-problem

    (It would record fine while powered up - it was only going into standby that made it lose the time.)
    • Undervalued
    • By Undervalued 15th Jan 19, 12:25 PM
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    There was a common problem with 9200 where the display would just show '--:--' - mine did that. It turned out that there was a very simple fix - you had to clean the circuit board ! There was some sort of film left by the manufacturing process, and cleaning it off worked for many people (inc. me).

    https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/the-9200-problem

    (It would record fine while powered up - it was only going into standby that made it lose the time.)
    Originally posted by psychic teabag
    Mine obviously isn't a 9200 as it has no LCD display.

    However I remember helping a friend to do exactly as you describe with, presumably, a 9200 some years ago!

    I also seem to remember that the difference in power consumption between "On" and "Standby" was about six watts. So if you couldn't be bothered to strip it down and clean the board you could get round the problem by just leaving it on at a cost of about 10p per week.
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