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    • cornish donkey
    • By cornish donkey 10th Nov 18, 12:09 PM
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    ESA after resigning
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    • 10th Nov 18, 12:09 PM
    ESA after resigning 10th Nov 18 at 12:09 PM
    Hi, my hubby became ill whilst employed and has been receiving SSP but his employer basically said to him the likelihood of him returning to employment is very slim and they’d like him to resign which he did.

    My hubby now has to try and claim ESA as we have no income. Does he need an SSP1 form to claim ESA after SSP?

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    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 10th Nov 18, 12:36 PM
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    If he has a P45 from leaving work he doesn't need the SSP1.

    You need to check whether you are in a UC full service area https://ucpostcode.entitledto.co.uk/ucdate

    If you are he must claim 'new style' ESA https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-style-employment-and-support-allowance which he will be eligible for if he paid and/or was credited with class 1 or Class 2 NI contributions from April 2015 to March 2017.

    If you have no other household income you will also qualify for a Universal Credit top up (unless you have savings over £16,000) https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/universal-credit/
    Last edited by calcotti; 10-11-2018 at 12:38 PM.
    • cornish donkey
    • By cornish donkey 10th Nov 18, 12:48 PM
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    If he has a P45 from leaving work he doesn't need the SSP1.

    You need to check whether you are in a UC full service area https://ucpostcode.entitledto.co.uk/ucdate

    If you are he must claim 'new style' ESA https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-style-employment-and-support-allowance which he will be eligible for if he paid and/or was credited with class 1 or Class 2 NI contributions from April 2015 to March 2017.

    If you have no other household income you will also qualify for a Universal Credit top up (unless you have savings over £16,000) https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/universal-credit/
    Originally posted by calcotti

    We are not in a UC area atm.
    He received a letter from his employer stating that his employment ended on Nov 2nd but no SSP1 or P45.

    Should he ask his employer for either SSP1 or P45?

    What does a SSP1 form actually do?
    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 10th Nov 18, 12:54 PM
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    Employer is required to issue a P45 at the end of a contract of employment, it confirms the date employment ended and provides details of tax and NI paid in the current tax year up to the date of leaving. If your husband has not yet had his final payslip employer may issue P45 at same time as payslip.

    The SSP1 is a form that states that entitlement to SSP has ended, the significance of this is that you are not entitled to ESA if you are entitled to SSP.

    If you are not in a UC area the benefits to look at are ESA, Housing Benefit (if you rent your home) and Council Tax Reduction. HB and CTR are claimed from your local authority.
    Last edited by calcotti; 10-11-2018 at 12:58 PM.
    • cornish donkey
    • By cornish donkey 10th Nov 18, 1:14 PM
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    Employer is required to issue a P45 at the end of a contract of employment, it confirms the date employment ended and provides details of tax and NI paid in the current tax year up to the date of leaving. If your husband has not yet had his final payslip employer may issue P45 at same time as payslip.

    The SSP1 is a form that states that entitlement to SSP has ended, the significance of this is that you are not entitled to ESA if you are entitled to SSP.

    If you are not in a UC area the benefits to look at are ESA, Housing Benefit (if you rent your home) and Council Tax Reduction. HB and CTR are claimed from your local authority.
    Originally posted by calcotti
    I see, so the DWP will only need the p45 as it goes without saying that the SSP has ended.
    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 10th Nov 18, 1:20 PM
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    • 10th Nov 18, 1:20 PM
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    • 10th Nov 18, 1:20 PM
    I see, so the DWP will only need the p45 as it goes without saying that the SSP has ended.
    Originally posted by cornish donkey
    Yes, no entitlement to SSP if no longer employed. There os no harm in getting the SSP1 as well but I don't see that it is necessary.

    The other document husband will need is a Fit Note from his GP (it's actually a Statement of Fitness for Work). He's probably been providing his employer with these while on SSP.

    If there is a slight delay in applying husband can ask for ESA to be backdated to day after employment ended provided he has a Fit Note for that period. Should also show DWP payslips because these will confirm he was on SSP (otherwise he will not get paid for the first 7 days).
    Last edited by calcotti; 10-11-2018 at 1:24 PM.
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