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    • beckysbobbles1
    • By beckysbobbles1 5th Nov 18, 9:02 AM
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    Parking charge notice in a car park that's free on Sundays
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    Parking charge notice in a car park that's free on Sundays 5th Nov 18 at 9:02 AM
    Hi,


    I parked in my local shopping centre car park yesterday which has free parking on a Sunday. I parked outside of a bay, there was no obstructions and everyone parks outside of areas on a Sunday (I know that doesn't make it right though) however I was left a ticket on my car. The ticket is 100 within 28 days or 60 within 14 days.


    I'm not sure whether to appeal it as I should be parked in a bay but does it make a difference it being free parking on a Sunday?


    I'm so mad at myself for being foolish but equally this is a barrier entry/exit and it feels like they must only send attendants round on a Sunday to try and make some extra money.


    Any advice is appreciated thanks.
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    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 5th Nov 18, 9:04 AM
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    Who has issued the charge?
    Please note, we are not a legal, residential or credit advice forum, rather one that helps motorists fight private parking charges, primarily at the 'front-end' of the process.
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    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 5th Nov 18, 9:09 AM
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    Of course you should appeal, 100 is a silly amount of money for a very minor breach of an alleged contract, I suspect a Local Authority would demand much less.

    This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of alleged contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors.

    Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, and others have already been named and shamed in the House of Commons as have Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each week, hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned. They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

    The problem has become so widespread that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers. It has even been suggested that some of these companies have links with organised ccrime.

    Watch the video of the Second Reading and committee stage in the House of Commons recently. MPs have a very low opinion of this industry.

    http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41

    https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2018-07-19/debates/2b90805c-bff8-4707-8bdc-b0bfae5a7ad5/Parking(CodeOfPractice)Bill(FirstSitting)

    and complain in the most robust terms to your MP. With a fair wind they will be out of business by early in the New Year.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • beckysbobbles1
    • By beckysbobbles1 5th Nov 18, 9:36 AM
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    • 5th Nov 18, 9:36 AM
    Who has issued the charge?
    Originally posted by Umkomaas
    It's been issued by MET Parking Services.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 5th Nov 18, 9:38 AM
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    Free parking all day means just that.

    You need to look at the signs carefully to see what they say and how clear they are.
    Are the white lines clear or faded

    Trouble is if one person parks outside the lines, you then have a ricochet along the line.

    This sounds like wardens getting their xmas bonus
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    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 5th Nov 18, 9:41 AM
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    • 5th Nov 18, 9:41 AM
    Everyone is politely asked to read up on this in the Newbies FAQ thread near the top of the forum before starting a new thread


    Go there now to get an understanding of the game you are now caught up in and how to deal with this


    You should use the appeal you will find there in#2


    Follow the advice in that post about when to send it
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 5th Nov 18, 10:09 AM
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    For their customers, that is the company who took them on, MET Parking state they have Marshalling on site in peak times.

    A free car park on a Sunday would be peak times

    They say on their web site ......

    "The operational efficiency of a car park suffers most during peak traffic periods, whether at rush hour or during holidays, conferences or other one-off events.

    On-Site Parking Attendants who perform marshalling duties can help your customers safely and quickly navigate around your car park and they can provide other helpful customer services. This service will dramatically improve efficiency during peak traffic periods and can prove an important factor in gaining customer loyalty for retail clients."


    We always say that the ticket is NOT a penalty charge but an invoice. One must assume that MET failed in their duties to properly manage the car park as they promise and then penalised those parking

    The landowner was probably sucked into this false promise, find out who the landowner is and request cancellation.

    I would also contact your local press so they can warn people about this as you will not be alone on sunday
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    • beckysbobbles1
    • By beckysbobbles1 5th Nov 18, 10:16 AM
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    • 5th Nov 18, 10:16 AM
    Free parking all day means just that.

    You need to look at the signs carefully to see what they say and how clear they are.
    Are the white lines clear or faded

    Trouble is if one person parks outside the lines, you then have a ricochet along the line.

    This sounds like wardens getting their xmas bonus
    Originally posted by beamerguy

    I think I'll look at the signs and see what it says. I'm so bad as so many people park outside the lines on a Sunday and there's never been an issue :-(
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 5th Nov 18, 10:21 AM
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    I think I'll look at the signs and see what it says. I'm so bad as so many people park outside the lines on a Sunday and there's never been an issue :-(
    Originally posted by beckysbobbles1
    You do understand that the parking industry practice a scam.

    MET are probably on a money making exercise especially as they are not managing the car park ?
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    • beckysbobbles1
    • By beckysbobbles1 5th Nov 18, 10:27 AM
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    You do understand that the parking industry practice a scam.

    MET are probably on a money making exercise especially as they are not managing the car park ?
    Originally posted by beamerguy

    I completely get that but I don't want a CCJ or anything against me.
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    • By beamerguy 5th Nov 18, 10:32 AM
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    I completely get that but I don't want a CCJ or anything against me.
    Originally posted by beckysbobbles1
    No CCJ .... best to read up on this

    The CCJ Myth and threats EXPOSED
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5849106&highlight=ccj+the+myth
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    • Loadsofchildren123
    • By Loadsofchildren123 5th Nov 18, 12:37 PM
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    What exactly do the signs say?


    If they say parking terms don't apply on a Sunday then no terms apply, including the requirement to park within a marked bay.


    If they just say no fee payable, then that IMPLIES the other t&cs still apply.


    Can you have a look at the exact wording?
    Although a practising Solicitor, my posts here are NOT legal advice, but are personal opinion based on limited facts provided anonymously by forum users. I accept no liability for the accuracy of any such posts and users are advised that, if they wish to obtain formal legal advice specific to their case, they must seek instruct and pay a solicitor.
    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 5th Nov 18, 12:48 PM
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    No CCJ ....
    Originally posted by beamerguy
    This PPC has started to dip their toe into court claims

    So too simplistic to say there will be no CCJ

    But a court hearing is a long way off

    Were you to get a CCJ because you lost in court (,or ignored the claim altogether) then it gets removed from your record as long as you pay it off in full within a month of the judgement
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 6th Nov 18, 1:42 AM
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    I'm so mad at myself for being foolish
    Wow, I'd be mad at the scam PPC! Why on earth blame yourself for getting a scumbag fake PCN?

    This PPC has started to dip their toe into court claims
    MET Parking? Have they? I thought none...

    No need to worry the OP though, who will likely beat this easily by using the template appeal as keeper, on day 26 (NOT YET, beckysbobbles1 - read the sticky thread).


    DO NOT PAY, DO NOT RING THEM, DO NOT APPEAL AS DRIVER!!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
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    • beckysbobbles1
    • By beckysbobbles1 9th Nov 18, 5:25 PM
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    Wow, I'd be mad at the scam PPC! Why on earth blame yourself for getting a scumbag fake PCN?


    MET Parking? Have they? I thought none...

    No need to worry the OP though, who will likely beat this easily by using the template appeal as keeper, on day 26 (NOT YET, beckysbobbles1 - read the sticky thread).


    DO NOT PAY, DO NOT RING THEM, DO NOT APPEAL AS DRIVER!!
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad

    Sorry I don't really understand what I should do. Are you saying I shouldn't appeal online?


    I'm going back to the car park this weekend so I will read the notice properly.
    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 9th Nov 18, 5:34 PM
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    No

    We are saying appeal in line with the advice in the newbies FAQ thread (#1)
    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 9th Nov 18, 5:36 PM
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    MET Parking? Have they? I thought none...
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad
    Yes.

    According to the stats at parking appeals info
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