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    • Stu6781
    • By Stu6781 15th Oct 18, 12:23 PM
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    Labourer pay rate?
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    • 15th Oct 18, 12:23 PM
    Labourer pay rate? 15th Oct 18 at 12:23 PM
    Hi all,

    What should the average hourly/day rate be for an unskilled labourer? (East Anglia)

    Thanks
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    • andygb
    • By andygb 15th Oct 18, 12:29 PM
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    • 15th Oct 18, 12:29 PM
    Hi all,

    What should the average hourly/day rate be for an unskilled labourer? (East Anglia)

    Thanks
    Originally posted by Stu6781



    Depends on a lot of variables - skill, experience etc, but I would say £150 per day or £120 per day mate's rates, that would cover jobs needing good carpentry, plastering and brikkie, plus a bit of plumbing/electrics.
    This was 2017 and seems a bit lower, taking into account a 10 hour day.


    https://www.tradesmansaver.co.uk/knowledgehub/what-are-tradesman-pay-rates
    • Stu6781
    • By Stu6781 15th Oct 18, 12:34 PM
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    • 15th Oct 18, 12:34 PM
    Sorry I’m talking about COMPLETELY unskilled, no experience. Just labouring to begin with, being the general dogsbody etc.
    • kwame41
    • By kwame41 15th Oct 18, 12:38 PM
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    • 15th Oct 18, 12:38 PM
    I would say whatever the minimum wage per hour is at the moment.
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 15th Oct 18, 12:48 PM
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    • 15th Oct 18, 12:48 PM
    Sorry Iím talking about COMPLETELY unskilled, no experience. Just labouring to begin with, being the general dogsbody etc.
    Originally posted by Stu6781
    National minimum wage.
    • andygb
    • By andygb 16th Oct 18, 9:37 AM
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    • 16th Oct 18, 9:37 AM
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    • 16th Oct 18, 9:37 AM
    If the OP is totally unskilled, then why not go self employed doing gardening. I know someone who does that and charges £10 per hour.
    • Samsung_Note2
    • By Samsung_Note2 16th Oct 18, 3:18 PM
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    • 16th Oct 18, 3:18 PM
    Sorry Iím talking about COMPLETELY unskilled, no experience. Just labouring to begin with, being the general dogsbody etc.
    Originally posted by Stu6781
    You would be looking at between £10 and £13 if working via agencies.

    Might be worth sticking a post on facebook selling pages asking for work with local builders,if and when you do get taken on,show an interest and you'll do well.

    Worked for a site agent on a Taylor whimpey site...he started as a labourer..then assistant and finally Agent...can be done if you work hard.
    • phill99
    • By phill99 16th Oct 18, 7:00 PM
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    • 16th Oct 18, 7:00 PM
    Depends on a lot of variables - skill, experience etc, but I would say £150 per day or £120 per day mate's rates, that would cover jobs needing good carpentry, plastering and brikkie, plus a bit of plumbing/electrics.
    This was 2017 and seems a bit lower, taking into account a 10 hour day.


    https://www.tradesmansaver.co.uk/knowledgehub/what-are-tradesman-pay-rates
    Originally posted by andygb


    But that is not an unskilled person.
    Eat vegetables and fear no creditors, rather than eat duck and hide.
    • phill99
    • By phill99 16th Oct 18, 7:01 PM
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    • 16th Oct 18, 7:01 PM
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    • 16th Oct 18, 7:01 PM
    OP I run a property maintenance company.


    For general labourers (humping and dumping I pay £60 - £70 a day. For labourers with some skill (but unqualified) I pay £80 -£90 / day
    Eat vegetables and fear no creditors, rather than eat duck and hide.
    • Stu6781
    • By Stu6781 18th Oct 18, 7:56 AM
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    Thank you Phil
    • Samsung_Note2
    • By Samsung_Note2 18th Oct 18, 10:26 AM
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    OP I run a property maintenance company.


    For general labourers (humping and dumping I pay £60 - £70 a day. For labourers with some skill (but unqualified) I pay £80 -£90 / day
    Originally posted by phill99
    Can i ask what amount of hours per day...sounds like NMW.

    As said even humpers on agency get £10 minimum
    • phill99
    • By phill99 20th Oct 18, 6:31 PM
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    Can i ask what amount of hours per day...sounds like NMW.

    As said even humpers on agency get £10 minimum
    Originally posted by Samsung_Note2


    Typically we are on site between 8 and 3.30 / 4.00


    They are Self employed so NMW doesn't apply.
    Eat vegetables and fear no creditors, rather than eat duck and hide.
    • Browntoa
    • By Browntoa 21st Oct 18, 9:11 AM
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    Op claiming to be a trained accountant in another of their threads

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=74702961#post74702961
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    • Samsung_Note2
    • By Samsung_Note2 21st Oct 18, 12:11 PM
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    Typically we are on site between 8 and 3.30 / 4.00


    They are Self employed so NMW doesn't apply.
    Originally posted by phill99

    Fair play to you for getting away with it.
    • owen_money
    • By owen_money 23rd Oct 18, 12:42 PM
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    Op claiming to be a trained accountant in another of their threads

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=74702961#post74702961
    Originally posted by Browntoa
    You're behind the times, that was last month, this month he wants to be a gas engineer

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5912465

    Personally I think he should become a train driver
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    • phill99
    • By phill99 23rd Oct 18, 6:01 PM
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    Fair play to you for getting away with it.
    Originally posted by Samsung_Note2
    I'm not getting away with anything. Check how NMW is applied. it doesn't apply to the self employed.
    Eat vegetables and fear no creditors, rather than eat duck and hide.
    • RecruitmentGeek
    • By RecruitmentGeek 15th Apr 19, 5:03 PM
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    Hi Stu6871,

    To answer your question:
    - If you're employing the unskilled labourer directly permanently, they're considered an employee. they are under your payroll (PAYE) and you will have to pay the National Minimum Wage. Dependent on the age of the worker, it would be between £3.90 per hour as an apprentice to £8.21 per hour if the worker is 25 years old or older since 1st April 2019. You will have to add National Insurance, Holiday and Pension contributions to this.

    - If you're employing temporarily via a recruitment agency, they're considered a worker and are eligible for the National Minimum Wage too. Typically, a temp unskilled labourer from a recruitment agency would cost you around £11.69 /hour all in (candidate pay rate + statutory payments + agency margin).

    - If the person is self-employed, the National Minimum Wage does not apply, and you don't have to pay any holiday, pension or NI. They may ask for £10-11/hour.

    I hope this helps!
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