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    • Pepper22
    • By Pepper22 12th Oct 18, 12:16 PM
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    Selling share of house to sister - same solicitor?
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    • 12th Oct 18, 12:16 PM
    Selling share of house to sister - same solicitor? 12th Oct 18 at 12:16 PM
    Hello,
    I own a flat with my sister - we also have a joint mortgage.
    I have agreed to sell the flat / my share of the flat to my sister and her partner.
    Can we use the same solicitor / conveyancer?
    Thanks!
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    • SmashedAvacado
    • By SmashedAvacado 12th Oct 18, 12:20 PM
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    It is not a good idea.
    The solicitor might not agree in any event (they ought not to)

    but one of you could have a solicitor and one of you could be unrepresented - so the solicitor could act for one leaving the other not represented. THe person needing representation is the one buying
    Last edited by SmashedAvacado; 12-10-2018 at 12:22 PM. Reason: additional comment
    • eddddy
    • By eddddy 12th Oct 18, 12:35 PM
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    As the other party is your sister, you can probably both use the same solicitor, if you want.

    It's because, to use the legal jargon, it's probably not an "arm's length transaction".

    The Solicitor's Regulation Authority (SRA) say

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    ..rule 3.08 of the Solicitors' Code of Conduct permits you to act for a seller and a buyer if the parties are not at arm's length—provided there is no conflict or significant risk of conflict.

    The guidance to the rule goes on to describe how to judge when a transaction is "at arm's length". For example, a transaction is not likely to be at arm's length if the parties are related by blood, adoption or marriage, or are living together. It is important for each case to be judged on its own facts.

    Link: http://www.sra.org.uk/solicitors/code-of-conduct/guidance/case-study/arms-length-conveyancing-transactions.page

    As the SRA suggest, the main reason not to use the same solicitor would be if there's likely to be disputes/conflicts between you and your sister over the sale etc.

    But if you're both confident that there will be no arguments, it shouldn't be a problem.
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    • By DoaM 12th Oct 18, 1:15 PM
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    Many, many years ago I bought the family home from my Dad. (He had terminal cancer, and he and my younger brother continued to live with us after the purchase - the sale made things easier in terms of sharing the estate after he died, so it was really a bit of forward planning as my [new] wife and I were house-hunting at the time anyway). We used the same solicitor for sale/purchase with no issues, but the solicitor made it clear that this was not a normal process.
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    • SmashedAvacado
    • By SmashedAvacado 12th Oct 18, 2:12 PM
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    • 12th Oct 18, 2:12 PM
    As the other party is your sister, you can probably both use the same solicitor, if you want.

    It's because, to use the legal jargon, it's probably not an "arm's length transaction".

    The Solicitor's Regulation Authority (SRA) say

    .


    As the SRA suggest, the main reason not to use the same solicitor would be if there's likely to be disputes/conflicts between you and your sister over the sale etc.

    But if you're both confident that there will be no arguments, it shouldn't be a problem.
    Originally posted by eddddy
    Isnt the problem here the lender though. The lender is not going to want the same lawyer acting for buyer and seller and lender. Lenders allow same solicitor for buyer and lender, but i am not sure they would permit it. Your lenders will need representation - and that might end up being the problem. As i mentioned above, you could get around this by not having the seller represented.
    • Pepper22
    • By Pepper22 12th Oct 18, 2:39 PM
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    Thanks so much for your replies! I guess then I can at least ask my sister's solicitor if they can represent us both (assuming I'm happy there will be no disputes).

    If I do get a solicitor, would they specifically represent me, or would they represent both myself and my sister as "the sellers"? (and then a separate solicitor representing my sister and her partner as "the buyers")

    Also this might sound like a silly question, but if I decide to be unrepresented, how do I go about that?
    • AnotherJoe
    • By AnotherJoe 12th Oct 18, 2:41 PM
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    You can ask. When i had similar (me and daughter), solicitor insisted my daughter used a different firm, not just a different solicitor !


    I am sure its more to protect them than us.
    Please dont criticise my spelling. It's excellent. Its my typing that's bad.
    • eddddy
    • By eddddy 12th Oct 18, 3:02 PM
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    Thanks so much for your replies! I guess then I can at least ask my sister's solicitor if they can represent us both (assuming I'm happy there will be no disputes).
    Originally posted by Pepper22
    It's best to ask a few solicitors.

    Some like to offer a standard "buyer's package" and a standard "seller's package" - and won't do anything non-standard.

    Will your sister and her partner want searches, survey, pre-contract enquiries (e.g. seller's property information form, fixtures and fittings list etc)?

    Are different lenders involved? If not the lender may not require searches, but if it's a new lender, they will want searches.


    It's worth clarifying some of the above before asking solicitors for quotes - as you might get cheaper quotes for less work.
    • Tom99
    • By Tom99 13th Oct 18, 2:19 AM
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    Two different solicitors working in the same office could do the job if there is a problem with one.
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