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    • ZZaffy
    • By ZZaffy 12th Oct 18, 12:51 AM
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    ring fenced farm
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    ring fenced farm 12th Oct 18 at 12:51 AM
    What does ring fenced farm, land, pasture mean?
    Thanks
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    • G_M
    • By G_M 12th Oct 18, 12:53 AM
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    • 12th Oct 18, 12:53 AM
    Depends on the context!


    Please expand your question.


    (googled? eg here )
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 12th Oct 18, 7:47 AM
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    • 12th Oct 18, 7:47 AM
    It simply means there's a fence around the perimeter of the farm's land which ought to be stock proof. It doesn't mean that it is though!


    Estate agents use the term. They didn't use it on my property because there was no fence there, so I couldn't have moved here with animals like sheep in tow.


    I don't think Googling worked too well for GM this time!
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    • ZZaffy
    • By ZZaffy 12th Oct 18, 10:42 AM
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    • 12th Oct 18, 10:42 AM
    ring fenced farm
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    • 12th Oct 18, 10:42 AM
    Thanks Dave. I am looking for land to put horses on and saw on several occasions the term ring fenced. I figured, it was a literal term, as you say, but when I searched online, websites kept coming up with banking references and I wondered if it were some sort of agricultural allowance/policy.
    I often get confused these days. It all started with Blackberry, when it stopped being fruit and became a computer. Seldom are words nowadays what they once were.
    • ZZaffy
    • By ZZaffy 12th Oct 18, 10:44 AM
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    • 12th Oct 18, 10:44 AM
    ring fenced farm land
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    • 12th Oct 18, 10:44 AM
    G_M.
    As seen on land or farms for sale. Details sometimes say ring fenced.
    Last edited by ZZaffy; 12-10-2018 at 10:55 AM.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 12th Oct 18, 11:00 AM
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    • 12th Oct 18, 11:00 AM
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    • 12th Oct 18, 11:00 AM
    Thanks Dave. I am looking for land to put horses on and saw on several occasions the term ring fenced .
    Originally posted by ZZaffy
    The only thing I can think to add is that fences for sheep may need some adaptation for horses; the typical two strands of barbed wire being undesirable.
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    • G_M
    • By G_M 12th Oct 18, 11:15 AM
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    • 12th Oct 18, 11:15 AM
    well I didn't spend more than 10 seconds on google as it seemed like something the OP could do himself.......!!!
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 12th Oct 18, 11:20 AM
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    Ring-fenced could simply mean that the land is solely allocated for that purpose, rather than having a physical meaning?
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    • ZZaffy
    • By ZZaffy 12th Oct 18, 1:50 PM
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    • 12th Oct 18, 1:50 PM
    ring fenced
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    • 12th Oct 18, 1:50 PM
    Yes, G_M thank you. It did not take me long to find ring fenced too but internet came up with two types of ring fencing. That was my confusion. Ring fencing as in literally a fence. But there were also references to ring fencing in banking. Farmland language is new to me and I am trying to get my head around, development uplift clauses, sporting rights, mineral rights, basic payment schemes, stewardship scheme etc. Just wondered if the referred ring fence was financial or a fence. I am sorry if my post annoyed you.
    • DaftyDuck
    • By DaftyDuck 12th Oct 18, 1:59 PM
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    Ah, G_M is one of our most useful contributors, just sometimes nursey misses out his gin or tablets, or she's wearing stockings, and then he gets a bit... playful. Give him the Saga magazine and turn on Countdown (LOUDLY) and he will be back this evening to his normal self.

    I have a "hobby" farm. I have no better guess than any of the above. It could mean the physical fence, it could means the land use is fixed and unchangeable, or it could be some abstract, obtuse definition we haven't thought of ...

    Where are we talking of; might be a more local term!
    • lincroft1710
    • By lincroft1710 12th Oct 18, 2:22 PM
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    DoaM has probably given the correct answer in this case.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 12th Oct 18, 2:27 PM
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    I rest my case....(a minute on Google)



    GENERAL
    "The property extends to 103.33 acres (41.82 hectares) or thereabouts in total and includes a range of farm buildings with planning permission for a traditional barn to be converted into a residential dwelling, together with 102.74 acres (41.58 hectares) of pasture land, all within a ring fence."


    https://www.bletsoes.co.uk/property-full-details?profileID=100064001948
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    • lincroft1710
    • By lincroft1710 12th Oct 18, 2:34 PM
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    Typically English to have 2 or 3 meanings for the same phrase!
    • ZZaffy
    • By ZZaffy 12th Oct 18, 2:51 PM
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    Thanks everyone. This post is now ringfenced unless someone has left the gate open.
    • G_M
    • By G_M 12th Oct 18, 4:22 PM
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    Yes, G_M thank you. It did not take me long to find ring fenced too but internet came up with two types of ring fencing. That was my confusion. Ring fencing as in literally a fence. But there were also references to ring fencing in banking. Farmland language is new to me and I am trying to get my head around, development uplift clauses, sporting rights, mineral rights, basic payment schemes, stewardship scheme etc. Just wondered if the referred ring fence was financial or a fence. I am sorry if my post annoyed you.
    Originally posted by ZZaffy
    and it was for thatreason that I sugested you provide the context for your question!


    For all we knew (at first) you might have been an investor looking for EC funding (in the final few months) ring-fenced for farming, or something else entirely!


    Ok - DaftyDuck, I'll take my tablets now as it's time for nursey to take off her stockings and give me my... ahem.... cake.
    • ZZaffy
    • By ZZaffy 12th Oct 18, 4:40 PM
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    And I did provide the context of my question G_M. In my 2nd post. I have now padlocked the gate.
    • G_M
    • By G_M 12th Oct 18, 5:40 PM
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    And I did provide the context of my question G_M. In my 2nd post. I have now padlocked the gate.
    Originally posted by ZZaffy
    Which was after I had asked for more context!


    Forget the padlock - I'm a master locksmith......
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    • By Owain Moneysaver 12th Oct 18, 5:53 PM
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    It all started with Blackberry, when it stopped being fruit and became a computer.
    Originally posted by ZZaffy
    Tangerine, 1979; 20 years before RIM launched a BlackBerry
    A kind word lasts a minute, a skelped erse is sair for a day.
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