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    • pattycake
    • By pattycake 10th Oct 18, 3:53 PM
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    Flu vaccine shortage
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    Flu vaccine shortage 10th Oct 18 at 3:53 PM
    I have normally heard from my surgery by now to go into have the flu jab. So I contacted them today to be told I would receive a letter shortly to have the jab in November. I expressed surprise at how late that was and was told it was because they are busy and if I wanted it before go to a pharmacy.

    I duly enquiries in a couple of local pharmacies and as I need the over 65 vaccine, there is a shortage and they have no stock!

    Bearing in mind that the vaccine takes 3 weeks to become effective, it will be well into flu season before I gain any protection. Seems a pretty poor show to me as the number of over 65s needing the jab should be known well in advance.

    Is this shortage confined to my area, south east Cheshire or national problem?
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    • Ms Mop 123
    • By Ms Mop 123 10th Oct 18, 4:52 PM
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    I've just had mine done at Boots. I'm under 65 but due to health issues I have to have one. I live in Nottinghamshire and when I phoned to book it was told they hadn't got the one for over 65's in. Think they said they would be getting it in in November.
    • pattycake
    • By pattycake 10th Oct 18, 4:54 PM
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    I've just had mine done at Boots. I'm under 65 but due to health issues I have to have one. I live in Nottinghamshire and when I phoned to book it was told they hadn't got the one for over 65's in. Think they said they would be getting it in in November.
    Originally posted by Ms Mop 123
    Ok sounds like a national shortage then. Apparently the over 65 vaccine is a different composition to the one for younger patients.
    • iammumtoone
    • By iammumtoone 10th Oct 18, 4:56 PM
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    I've heard that around here they don't have the vaccine for over 65s in stock either.


    Seems strange to me that under 65s can get the jab no problem. I would have thought that overall its the over 65s that need it more.
    • pattycake
    • By pattycake 10th Oct 18, 5:09 PM
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    I've heard that around here they don't have the vaccine for over 65s in stock either.


    Seems strange to me that under 65s can get the jab no problem. I would have thought that overall its the over 65s that need it more.
    Originally posted by iammumtoone

    Precisely. The health authorities must not have ordered enough stock. My earlier point remains, they know how many over 65s there are!
    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 10th Oct 18, 5:30 PM
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    I didn't realise the vaccine was different for people over 65. How odd.
    • Cornucopia
    • By Cornucopia 10th Oct 18, 5:38 PM
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    All the vaccine must be down here.

    I had mine at the Surgery on Saturday - it was like a military operation. Judging by the lists the receptionists had, they were expecting 150 patients that morning, maybe more.
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    • Browntoa
    • By Browntoa 10th Oct 18, 5:54 PM
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    The over 65 vaccine is different to the other one this year , they expect the final batch of over 65 vaccine in November

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/flu-jab-2018-what-is-the-new-flu-vaccine-in-the-uk-and-who-should-get-it-a3934296.html
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    • Saffythecat
    • By Saffythecat 11th Oct 18, 10:48 PM
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    I’m in Scotland and there are two different jabs available here - one protects against four strains of flu, and one three. My mum was only eligible for the three strains, but her husband who’s a few years older was eligible for four. Both are in their 70s. My mum paid at Boots. My work is offering the four strain jab to all staff. I had it yesterday and my arm is really, really sore today.
    • donnac2558
    • By donnac2558 12th Oct 18, 10:45 AM
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    Northern Ireland no shortage, I get under 65 because of medical problems. I was chatting with the nurse who gave me mind and asked about the over 65 one. She said it contains something extra to help it absorb better into your system as the older you are many times things do not absorb as well as if you are younger.
    • pattycake
    • By pattycake 12th Oct 18, 11:41 AM
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    Im in Scotland and there are two different jabs available here - one protects against four strains of flu, and one three. My mum was only eligible for the three strains, but her husband whos a few years older was eligible for four. Both are in their 70s. My mum paid at Boots. My work is offering the four strain jab to all staff. I had it yesterday and my arm is really, really sore today.
    Originally posted by Saffythecat
    Do age 70+ patients have to pay for the flu jab in Scotland?
    • pmduk
    • By pmduk 12th Oct 18, 2:59 PM
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    It was always known that there'd be problems getting stock of Fluad (the vaccine for over 65s). 40% of the annual requirement is due for delivery in November, I suspect it's better to wait until then rather than have an inferior product?
    • pattycake
    • By pattycake 12th Oct 18, 3:35 PM
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    Ive now got my appointment through to have the flu jab. 10th November which is around 4 weeks later than in previous years.
    • carlislelass
    • By carlislelass 12th Oct 18, 4:20 PM
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    I didn't realise the vaccine was different for people over 65. How odd.
    Originally posted by Nick_C
    It is this year
    • Skibunny40
    • By Skibunny40 12th Oct 18, 5:00 PM
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    In Scotland, the flu jab is free for those 65+ but there's a different (better?!) vaccine for over 75's - I think normally all over 65's would get this one, but they didn't order enough / in time so are having to restrict its use.
    • LadyDee
    • By LadyDee 13th Oct 18, 7:58 AM
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    Im in Scotland and there are two different jabs available here - one protects against four strains of flu, and one three. My mum was only eligible for the three strains, but her husband whos a few years older was eligible for four. Both are in their 70s. My mum paid at Boots. My work is offering the four strain jab to all staff. I had it yesterday and my arm is really, really sore today.
    Originally posted by Saffythecat
    I just read the link provided above, and it seems to say that the more effective (enhanced) vaccine has 3 ingredients, the under 65s get 4 ingredients because there isn't an enhanced version of the 4th ingredient available. From this, it seems your Mum and you get 4, Dad gets 3. I can't really understand that - even a less enhanced 4th ingredient is better than none?
    • Saffythecat
    • By Saffythecat 14th Oct 18, 6:59 PM
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    I got whatever was available at my work, which seems to be the same as what my mums husband got. My mum is eligible for a free jab as shes over 65, but not the version I got, and her husband got. She opted to pay at Boots for what she understood would offer her more protection. Her husband is over 75.
    • Lorian
    • By Lorian 14th Oct 18, 7:06 PM
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    I can't really understand that - even a less enhanced 4th ingredient is better than none?
    Originally posted by LadyDee
    As I understand the adjuvated jab has been introduced to be more effective for older people, as the immune system is less active as you get older. There is no adjuvated 4-strain (quadrivalent) jab available this year. Maybe next year.
    Both available where I live.
    • Missus Hyde
    • By Missus Hyde 14th Oct 18, 7:46 PM
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    As I understand the adjuvated jab has been introduced to be more effective for older people, as the immune system is less active as you get older. There is no adjuvated 4-strain (quadrivalent) jab available this year. Maybe next year.
    Both available where I live.
    Originally posted by Lorian
    Hmm, that's interesting.

    As I'm over 65, it would appear that the adjuvated jab would be more applicable to me, however unfortunately I suffer with an autoimmune disease, which causes my immune system to be over active, not under active, so the very last thing I require is something to "boost" my immune system ( I take immunosuppressants to prevent that happening.)

    It would be worth me informing my doctors' surgery that I require the lesser one.
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    • Lorian
    • By Lorian 14th Oct 18, 8:03 PM
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    Hmm, that's interesting.

    As I'm over 65, it would appear that the adjuvated jab would be more applicable to me, however unfortunately I suffer with an autoimmune disease, which causes my immune system to be over active, not under active, so the very last thing I require is something to "boost" my immune system ( I take immunosuppressants to prevent that happening.)

    It would be worth me informing my doctors' surgery that I require the lesser one.
    Originally posted by Missus Hyde
    I don't know but I think it would be worth reminding them before you get the jab.
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