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    • mr_accountant
    • By mr_accountant 10th Oct 18, 1:59 PM
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    windows 10 takes long time to start up
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    • 10th Oct 18, 1:59 PM
    windows 10 takes long time to start up 10th Oct 18 at 1:59 PM
    takes round 3 mins plus to start up, though is quick from hibernate ( which is what i do atm)

    pc is:
    e8400 cpu 3.00 ghz dual core
    4gb ram, pc2 6400
    windows 10 pro clean install, ver 1803. x64
    2gb gigabyte gt630 graphics cards (more on this later)
    quick start is ticked in the power box, takes around 5 mins without quick start
    it seems to stick on the desktop page for a couple of mins

    i have so far;
    task manager, only a couple of google tasks set for once a week.
    startup items, only windows defender.
    tried windows defender off on startup, but no difference

    only thing i can see is in device manager a few items are yellow
    nividia gt630 graphics card (though it is recognized in the display settings) it is still as yellow in device manage, tried to update driver but says latest driver is downloaded

    also ide controllers and strorage controllers are yellow

    any ideas?
    Last edited by mr_accountant; 10-10-2018 at 2:03 PM.
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    • AndyPix
    • By AndyPix 10th Oct 18, 2:11 PM
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    • 10th Oct 18, 2:11 PM
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    • 10th Oct 18, 2:11 PM
    What is the make and model of the machine ?
    Running with scissors since 1978
    • mr_accountant
    • By mr_accountant 10th Oct 18, 2:28 PM
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    • 10th Oct 18, 2:28 PM
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    • 10th Oct 18, 2:28 PM
    What is the make and model of the machine ?
    Originally posted by AndyPix
    hp dx2420 tower
    • neilmcl
    • By neilmcl 10th Oct 18, 2:31 PM
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    • 10th Oct 18, 2:31 PM
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    • 10th Oct 18, 2:31 PM
    Download the latest driver manually for the graphics card, uninstall and reboot then reinstall. Also what sort of hard drive do you have? Might be worth installing a SSD a boot drive.
    • mr_accountant
    • By mr_accountant 10th Oct 18, 2:37 PM
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    • 10th Oct 18, 2:37 PM
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    • 10th Oct 18, 2:37 PM
    Download the latest driver manually for the graphics card, uninstall and reboot then reinstall. Also what sort of hard drive do you have? Might be worth installing a SSD a boot drive.
    Originally posted by neilmcl
    ive tried to do a manual download of the latest driver, download OK but trying to install the message comes up not compatible (or something on this lines cant remember the exact wording)

    also tried to down a manual download on the gigabyte and NVIDIA sites, both drivers are the same but wont install

    not sure if this is the problem, just a theory

    the drive is just a 250gb 3.5" drive.
    • 25 Years On
    • By 25 Years On 10th Oct 18, 5:22 PM
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    25 Years On
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    • 10th Oct 18, 5:22 PM
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    • 10th Oct 18, 5:22 PM
    Could be the Windows 10 version 1803 slowness problem, in part at least.
    • steviebuk
    • By steviebuk 10th Oct 18, 6:33 PM
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    • 10th Oct 18, 6:33 PM
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    • 10th Oct 18, 6:33 PM
    hp dx2420 tower
    Originally posted by mr_accountant

    That's the problem. It's REALLY old so it will be slow unfortunately. Might be time, if you can afford to, to upgrade.
    • EveryWhere
    • By EveryWhere 11th Oct 18, 12:54 AM
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    • #8
    • 11th Oct 18, 12:54 AM
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    • 11th Oct 18, 12:54 AM
    Of course the age of the device is not the issue, but anyone willingly running a mechanical spinning disc drive in this day and age must hate himself or just like making cups of tea.

    The likelihood is that you have installed the OS in PATA or IDE mode. It needs to be set to AHCI or RAID. Then to run a clean install.

    https://support.hp.com/bg-en/document/c02961221

    Whether you can do that via your BIOS may be another story. Perhaps, according to this; https://www.manualslib.com/manual/371187/Compaq-Dx2420-Microtower-Pc.html?page=10 or download here

    Look here for a possible solution if your drive is connected to SATA 1, but the option for AHCI is not shown in the BIOS setup;



    SSD for 20 squid, connected via SATA cable to the SATA 1 port and installed with AHCI enabled will improve the start up time to 30 seconds or less.



    In the meantime, try these Chipset Drivers; https://www.driverscape.com/files/misc/INF_allOS_9.4.0.1027.exe

    and this for USB Storage; https://www.driverscape.com/files/misc/Realtek_Card_Reader_Driver_10.0.370.102.zip
    • that
    • By that 11th Oct 18, 2:39 AM
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    that
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    • 11th Oct 18, 2:39 AM
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    • 11th Oct 18, 2:39 AM
    once you have the correct drivers installed...

    top of the page is a spyware sticky. though it is basically Malware bytes + ccleaner

    loads of small files on the drive?
    • EveryWhere
    • By EveryWhere 11th Oct 18, 4:19 AM
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    You may also need to update the BIOS, but now you are running a 64 bit OS, it's advisable to update it via DOS.
    Have a look to see which BIOS version is being run on your PC.
    • mr_accountant
    • By mr_accountant 11th Oct 18, 3:30 PM
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    thanks for the responses, i will reply in chronological order from post 8

    i cant fine the ACHI or raid option in the bios, only sata1, as you suggested i tried the cntr f10, cntl f11 trick as per the video but could not get the detailed bios screen, though now the initial blue screen with the options (e.g. press f10 to enter setup, f11 recovery etc) has disappeared
    i will have a look a the SSD, though the new 256gb ones are closer to 40 then 20 on a quick search

    just done scan with defender, malware and SAS, no viruses

    the bios is the latest v5.31, also W7 ran on x64

    I may think about SSD though as i just clean installed W10 and set it up as its a pain to do it again, in the meantime i will use hibernate, restarts up in less than 20 secs
    Last edited by mr_accountant; 11-10-2018 at 3:32 PM.
    • EveryWhere
    • By EveryWhere 11th Oct 18, 9:39 PM
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    thanks for the responses, i will reply in chronological order from post 8

    i cant fine the ACHI or raid option in the bios, only sata1, as you suggested i tried the cntr f10, cntl f11 trick as per the video but could not get the detailed bios screen, though now the initial blue screen with the options (e.g. press f10 to enter setup, f11 recovery etc) has disappeared
    i will have a look a the SSD, though the new 256gb ones are closer to 40 then 20 on a quick search

    just done scan with defender, malware and SAS, no viruses

    the bios is the latest v5.31, also W7 ran on x64

    I may think about SSD though as i just clean installed W10 and set it up as its a pain to do it again, in the meantime i will use hibernate, restarts up in less than 20 secs
    Originally posted by mr_accountant
    Then don't buy a 256GB model, buy one that costs 20 quid. You can keep the old HDD in as internal storage.

    Are you stating that the BIOS setup page has disappeared altogether?
    • mr_accountant
    • By mr_accountant 11th Oct 18, 10:31 PM
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    Then don't buy a 256GB model, buy one that costs 20 quid. You can keep the old HDD in as internal storage.

    Are you stating that the BIOS setup page has disappeared altogether?
    Originally posted by EveryWhere
    no not the bios, the blue information display screen at the start which remains for a couple of seconds with the shortcuts, eg esc for boot to enter, f10 to enter setup etc
    similar to 1st screenshot below
    https://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/229988-hp-desktop-startup-screen-frozen-geek-squad-says-fried-motherboard.html
    Last edited by mr_accountant; 11-10-2018 at 10:36 PM. Reason: -
    • PiratePete
    • By PiratePete 12th Oct 18, 4:28 PM
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    SSD all the way
    I have an old dell dimension E520 running Win7 that was taking an age to boot ie 3 1/2 mins ! Installed an SSD drive and it now boots in less than 30 seconds and zips along nicely! I had a laptop that was so slow after upgrading to windows 10 you could almost go and make a cup of tea and come back and it still hadn't booted ! Again installed an SSD and it now boots in under 30 seconds.
    Last edited by PiratePete; 12-10-2018 at 4:32 PM.
    • deanos
    • By deanos 12th Oct 18, 5:46 PM
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    deanos
    My windows 10 used to take ages to load, installed a SSD and its seconds way way faster, well worth investing in one
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