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    • misterbarlow
    • By misterbarlow 9th Oct 18, 9:53 PM
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    Is a SkyQ self setup possible?
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    • 9th Oct 18, 9:53 PM
    Is a SkyQ self setup possible? 9th Oct 18 at 9:53 PM
    I currently have SkyHD.
    My sister has just moved into a new house and there was a SkyQ box left behind which she isn't going to use, and I wouldn't mind having.

    I have read it uses a different LNB so if I take the LNB from that house along with the box and swap it with mine, anyone know can I do a self card pair like with HD boxes, or have Sky stopped the facility with Q??

    Thanks.
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    • Moneyineptitude
    • By Moneyineptitude 11th Oct 18, 3:28 PM
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    Moneyineptitude

    You seem very defensive of Sky's methods, do you work for them?
    Originally posted by HWW
    Yes, that's why I mainly inhabit the PPI and Consumer boards!

    Just to clarify, I have the same opinion of Virgin decoders being put on sale by people who don't own them but I don't work for Virgin either!

    We are losing sight of the topic of this thread, which is whether a Q box can be self-installed. The answer is that Sky will not allow a Q box to be (re) activated without an accompanying Sky Q subscription. Sky charge for the conversion of Sky+HD to Q and I can't see them making any exception simply because the previous occupant of the property has left their Q decoder behind.

    (I also agree that the Q box being rental removes the possibility of it being used by ex-customers to view Free To Air channels after cancellation. Obviously, a deliberate ploy by Sky which I definitely do not support)
    Last edited by Moneyineptitude; 11-10-2018 at 3:31 PM.
    • HWW
    • By HWW 11th Oct 18, 5:30 PM
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    Yes, that's why I mainly inhabit the PPI and Consumer boards!

    Just to clarify, I have the same opinion of Virgin decoders being put on sale by people who don't own them but I don't work for Virgin either!

    We are losing sight of the topic of this thread, which is whether a Q box can be self-installed. The answer is that Sky will not allow a Q box to be (re) activated without an accompanying Sky Q subscription. Sky charge for the conversion of Sky+HD to Q and I can't see them making any exception simply because the previous occupant of the property has left their Q decoder behind.

    (I also agree that the Q box being rental removes the possibility of it being used by ex-customers to view Free To Air channels after cancellation. Obviously, a deliberate ploy by Sky which I definitely do not support)
    Originally posted by Moneyineptitude

    Thanks for being honest that you are a Sky employee - it explains much!
    Of course on a money saving forum, such as this - the best way to save cash, is NOT to spend it on Sky subscriptions, when there is more than sufficient free stuff, on Freeview & Freesat!.
    That is my view anyway.


    Why not call yourself, Sky PR ? that would be even more honest.


    No need to copycat the BBC/Capita PR types, that haunt Digital spy & occasionally here
    • Moneyineptitude
    • By Moneyineptitude 11th Oct 18, 5:46 PM
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    Thanks for being honest that you are a Sky employee - it explains much!
    Originally posted by HWW
    I was attempting to be sarcastic, but it was obviously lost on you.

    Why would I spend the overwhelming majority of my time here posting about PPI if I worked for Sky?

    I have no affiliation with Sky nor any other telecoms provider. My opinions are my own and I doubt Sky would approve even of the posts I've made in this thread.

    Incidentally, I'm also of the opinion that not having a PayTV subscription is the most moneysaving option, but that was not the topic of this thread.
    • HWW
    • By HWW 12th Oct 18, 11:22 AM
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    I was attempting to be sarcastic, but it was obviously lost on you.

    Why would I spend the overwhelming majority of my time here posting about PPI if I worked for Sky?

    I have no affiliation with Sky nor any other telecoms provider. My opinions are my own and I doubt Sky would approve even of the posts I've made in this thread.

    Incidentally, I'm also of the opinion that not having a PayTV subscription is the most moneysaving option, but that was not the topic of this thread.
    Originally posted by Moneyineptitude
    I've not seen your other posts - I assume you are against the PPI phone pests?.
    Sarcasm, never works well on forums. Best to be open and honest in my view. Plus live in the REAL world, where Sky & other ex Subs boxes, are a handy source of HDDs, once subscribers "See the light"


    Picked up a pretty new BT Youview box at a car boot the other day for 5 - seller thought it was useless because they had changed to talk-talk works great as a stand-alone freeview recorder.
    • misterbarlow
    • By misterbarlow 13th Oct 18, 12:25 PM
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    We are losing sight of the topic of this thread, which is whether a Q box can be self-installed. The answer is that Sky will not allow a Q box to be (re) activated without an accompanying Sky Q subscription. Sky charge for the conversion of Sky+HD to Q and I can't see them making any exception simply because the previous occupant of the property has left their Q decoder behind.

    (I also agree that the Q box being rental removes the possibility of it being used by ex-customers to view Free To Air channels after cancellation. Obviously, a deliberate ploy by Sky which I definitely do not support)
    Originally posted by Moneyineptitude

    Well, just goes to show how much you actually know about the subject then doesn't it, as I have done it today, and its currently working fine (for the time being)!


    I swapped the LNB this morning, swapped the box over, put card in, it said card needs to be paired, go to setup to pair card, did this, said card paired, and it exited to BBC1HD.

    Been through all channels I have all my correct channels, settings, menus, planner, on demand, all working fine!
    I access my account in the menu and its all my info..
    It records fine, it downloads fine!!!

    So YES you can do a Q self install, probably why there are boxes for sale on ebay!

    As I already said, you only need a Q sub to use Q enhanced features like multiroom streaming, UHD, miniboxes etc, but without a Q sub the box still works as a standalone box, which is all I want.

    Sky mainly only charge for upgrading from HD to Q as they have to send an tech out to physically change the LNB.

    Yes Sky 'rent' the Q box only so much as if you have a sub, they send you one to use and the rental is basically your sub, and when you end that sub, they want it back.

    Just like Virgin, this will rarely happen, I go into empty houses every day with my job, and have seen hundreds and hundreds of virgin boxes left behind over the years!

    If you are a new Sky customer they will send you Q with any size package even a basic one like mine, but when as a 25yr existing customer I asked for Q box at my renewal haggle in July, they said i'd have to take out extra channels like movies or sports, or pay for the box. (even though it would never be mine)
    Nice loyalty reward!

    And so its not blatant theft, I have a basic sky sub, so now "I" am 'renting' this particular box using my sub, until such time as I choose not to pay a sky sub!!
    Last edited by misterbarlow; 13-10-2018 at 1:51 PM.
    • Colin_Maybe
    • By Colin_Maybe 13th Oct 18, 12:42 PM
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    Well, just goes to show how much you actually know about the subject then doesn't it, as I have done it today, and its currently working fine (for the time being)!...

    ...If you are a new Sky customer they will send you Q with any size package even a basic one like mine, but when as a 25yr existing customer I asked for Q box at my renewal haggle in July, they said i'd have to take out extra channels like movies or sports, or pay for the box!
    Nice loyalty reward!...
    Originally posted by misterbarlow
    Good to know, have you tried recording multiple channels and watching another at the same time yet?


    I've got a 1TB Q box coming in a fortnights time which cost me 20 with no change to my contract (Boxsets @ 50% off on a rolling monthly contract) but previously they've always quoted me either 199 one off payment or an additional 12 a month for the "Sky Q experience" (for 18 months) despite not wanting multi-room or 4K.

    Edit: I did have the feeling it would work but Sky can still (apparently) disable the box if they wish.
    • misterbarlow
    • By misterbarlow 13th Oct 18, 12:50 PM
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    Yeah its all working fine, you only get 4x tuners, only with a Q sub do you get the full 8, and some of those are reserved for slinging OTA to miniboxes anyway. 4 is plenty!

    Sky can brick the box if they chose, but they probably have hundreds of thousands if not millions floating about the country, knowing big companies they probably wont waste the money or resources chasing odd ones.. Virgin never do..
    and at the end of the day I am paying them a sub, they prob dont care!!

    Just noticed the firmware was old so did a force update and that worked fine also, i'm sure if it was on any blacklist they wouldn't have updated it and would have bricked it then..?

    And if they do, the old LNB and HD box are under the stairs... ten mins and i'm back up and running!!!
    Last edited by misterbarlow; 13-10-2018 at 1:51 PM.
    • HWW
    • By HWW 13th Oct 18, 7:39 PM
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    Thanks Misterbarlow, that's what I call detailed help.
    • duchy
    • By duchy 13th Oct 18, 8:05 PM
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    Awful lot of effort when the current new customer deal is 20 set up and 10 a month for eighteen months for the Entertainment pack.
    Sky are MUCH more on the ball at turning them into bricks than Virgin too.
    (And yes I do work for them )

    Still if saving 2.50 a week is worth it to you .......... my time is worth more than that though ....each to their own.
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    • Colin_Maybe
    • By Colin_Maybe 13th Oct 18, 8:57 PM
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    Awful lot of effort when the current new customer deal is 20 set up and 10 a month for eighteen months for the Entertainment pack.
    Sky are MUCH more on the ball at turning them into bricks than Virgin too.
    (And yes I do work for them )

    Still if saving 2.50 a week is worth it to you .......... my time is worth more than that though ....each to their own.
    Originally posted by duchy
    If you worked for them you'd know that Entertainment is priced at 20 a month not 10.

    And how exactly do you think they'll get a Q box as an existing customer as they generally quote 199 or an additional 12 a month for 18 months?
    • Moneyineptitude
    • By Moneyineptitude 13th Oct 18, 9:54 PM
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    Moneyineptitude
    And so its not blatant theft, I have a basic sky sub, so now "I" am 'renting' this particular box using my sub, until such time as I choose not to pay a sky sub!!
    Originally posted by misterbarlow
    I wonder how long the box will continue to work?

    I certainly don't know (and why would I? )
    • misterbarlow
    • By misterbarlow 14th Oct 18, 9:52 AM
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    Awful lot of effort when the current new customer deal is 20 set up and 10 a month for eighteen months for the Entertainment pack.
    Sky are MUCH more on the ball at turning them into bricks than Virgin too.
    (And yes I do work for them )

    Still if saving 2.50 a week is worth it to you .......... my time is worth more than that though ....each to their own.
    Originally posted by duchy
    Awful lot of effort???? Really!!
    Five mins on a step ladder that end, five mins on a step ladder my end, and five mins to swap the box.... ooo yeah i was shattered from all that effort!!

    And as stated I am not a new customer so that deal is worthless to me, I asked for a Q renewing my contract, and all they would give me was 10pm off my entertainment pack, no Q unless I took out cinema or sports packs!!

    If it bricks, it bricks, not like it cost me anything ( apart from a lot of effort lol..)
    Like I said i'll then revert to my old HD box..
    Last edited by misterbarlow; 14-10-2018 at 9:55 AM.
    • Chino
    • By Chino 14th Oct 18, 2:05 PM
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    I wonder how long the box will continue to work?
    Originally posted by Moneyineptitude
    Why do you care? The point is, it's evidently working now.
    I certainly don't know (and why would I?
    Originally posted by Moneyineptitude
    That's quite apparent from your persistent baseless claims that what the OP wanted to do wouldn't work.
    • Moneyineptitude
    • By Moneyineptitude 14th Oct 18, 9:56 PM
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    Why do you care?
    Originally posted by Chino
    I don't care
    • misterbarlow
    • By misterbarlow 16th Oct 18, 5:38 PM
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    If you worked for them you'd know that Entertainment is priced at 20 a month not 10.

    And how exactly do you think they'll get a Q box as an existing customer as they generally quote 199 or an additional 12 a month for 18 months?
    Originally posted by Colin_Maybe
    As you say, just saw an ad on tv saying new or existing cust can have entertainment pack with Q for 32pm (20+12)..

    I am currently only paying 25pm for Ent pack, line rental and fibre unlimited, so i'd say yes it was worth the effort!!!
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