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    • YoungBlueEyes
    • By YoungBlueEyes 3rd Oct 18, 9:57 PM
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    Shared access - odd question.
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    • 3rd Oct 18, 9:57 PM
    Shared access - odd question. 3rd Oct 18 at 9:57 PM
    I have a strange question. It sounds like a good thing in principle, but it's niggling me and I can't articulate why. I'm keen to hear your thoughts please.

    I've (nearly) bought a terrace house. It's a row of 6, and I'm buying the fifth one. There is a pathway from the pavement at the side of no 1 that then runs across the back of the houses and out again at no 6 where it meets the pavement again. (I hope that makes sense!)

    My house would be the fifth one. So in theory only the lady at no 4 would pass my kitchen window, as the first 3 would turn left to go round the back and not come past me.

    The people in no 6 have put up a pair of bloody big solid wood gates and keep it locked all the time, so no-one can wander in off the street (from 'our end' at least). The gates are half way down the length of their house so they've effectively created themselves a parking space and keep their car on it.

    I know this because I was down there the other day and the lady at no 4 told me. She said she loves it because it makes her feel safe in her garden knowing no-one can poddle round off the street as all the connecting gates along the shared access are locked. "But what if I want to come through with big garden furniture or something? Do we all get a key?" "No we don't do that, but if we need to come through then Mr 6 will open up and help us with whatever. They also collect up our bins (4 5 + 6) and take them to the pavement for the binmen. Saves us a job And in return they get a free parking space."

    So it sounds like a good thing - no-one wandering round, a bit more security, I wouldn't have to worry about leaving my back door or windows open, or strangers wandering through when I'm only in my dressing gown and hanging out the washing etc.

    So why is this niggling me...?
    I don't make the same mistake twice. I like to make it 5 or 6 times, you know, just to be sure.

    Look before you leap. No I mean really look. And take a friend so they can look too. Then leap. Maybe.
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    • Smodlet
    • By Smodlet 13th Oct 18, 3:27 PM
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    You're right Cakeguts, I'm sitting here now re-evaluating what is realistic.

    That link looks good, I'll have to do some research on the area

    I need to pull my finger out, but I don't want to rush to buy something that's not right just because I need to buy something. If that makes sense.

    The pressure's on now. Sis moved into her rental the other day, and our buyers wanted in asap. Solic rang me - "what are you doing about finding a house? You need to shake yourself cos the buyers are getting itchy. They want to be in for the weekend as they both have next week off and want to get cracking." Me - "THIS weekend? That's a few days to pack and clean and sort removals and and and aaarghh!" Solic - "After the year you've had you need to draw a line under it. When did you turn into such a fanny?! Go move in with a friend."

    Anyway I managed it. I'm sat in my friend's house, with my whole world in his garage :0 I drove all the way down to (nearly) Cambridge at 9pm last night, having pulled a string of 17 hour days to get the house sorted. We exchanged on Wednesday, completed today.

    So I truly need to shift my 4rse now. The hunting continues apace...
    Originally posted by YoungBlueEyes

    What money said! Are you sure you are not paraphrasing just a little, YBE?

    It seems to me location is not of paramount concern to you. Your reasons are your own but speaking from experience (I think money might agree with this) if this is the case, the country is your oyster. You need to decide what you must have, would like to have and what you would not touch with a bargepole; you can put iffy access on that list right now, I think.

    We went from our dream home (within a very precise location where very, very few houses ever come up for sale and three streets from where I was born) to "Where can we afford a house big enough for all the stuff we have accumulated and are not willing to get rid of?" It was an experience I would not wish on my worst enemy but you have to deal with what life throws at you, however much it sucks. I know I am incredibly lucky to have my wonderful hubby; I don't think I could have done what money did and done it on my own but then, I would never have been in a position to get a sniff of my dream house without him anyway.

    As it is, you have the means to buy a house; a reasonably decent one in a fairly reasonable area. You just need to decide where: Scotland? No? Already narrowed it down... Unless Scotland is on your list! I ruled it out purely because of the heating bills...

    If it helps, just do what I did and put your criteria into RM and draw a search area. Ours was pretty large, I'll tell ya. You soon learn to weed stuff out and the crime map is a useful tool but not as good as streetcheck. HTH.
    Last edited by Smodlet; 13-10-2018 at 3:41 PM.
    What is this life if, sweet wordsmith, we have no time to take the pith?
    Every stew starts with the first onion.
    I took it upon myself to investigate a trifle; it had custard, jelly, soggy sponge things...
    • Cakeguts
    • By Cakeguts 13th Oct 18, 4:58 PM
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    What money said! Are you sure you are not paraphrasing just a little, YBE?

    It seems to me location is not of paramount concern to you. Your reasons are your own but speaking from experience (I think money might agree with this) if this is the case, the country is your oyster. You need to decide what you must have, would like to have and what you would not touch with a bargepole; you can put iffy access on that list right now, I think.

    We went from our dream home (within a very precise location where very, very few houses ever come up for sale and three streets from where I was born) to "Where can we afford a house big enough for all the stuff we have accumulated and are not willing to get rid of?" It was an experience I would not wish on my worst enemy but you have to deal with what life throws at you, however much it sucks. I know I am incredibly lucky to have my wonderful hubby; I don't think I could have done what money did and done it on my own but then, I would never have been in a position to get a sniff of my dream house without him anyway.

    As it is, you have the means to buy a house; a reasonably decent one in a fairly reasonable area. You just need to decide where: Scotland? No? Already narrowed it down... Unless Scotland is on your list! I ruled it out purely because of the heating bills...

    If it helps, just do what I did and put your criteria into RM and draw a search area. Ours was pretty large, I'll tell ya. You soon learn to weed stuff out and the crime map is a useful tool but not as good as streetcheck. HTH.
    Originally posted by Smodlet

    Depends where in Scotland. http://www.sheap-ltd.co.uk/advantages
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 13th Oct 18, 5:21 PM
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    the crime map is a useful tool but not as good as streetcheck. HTH.
    Originally posted by Smodlet
    Gosh, there was one crime in my village during August and everyone here is white, except for an Asian chap.

    Not pointing the finger, of course, but statistics never lie.....

    I don't like the way the police have put the crime blob quite close to my house and nowhere near his. They're obviously terrified of a racial hate crime backlash.......


    P.S. Where is the % of people speaking estuary English filter?
    Last edited by Davesnave; 13-10-2018 at 5:28 PM.
    A garden is never so good as it will be next year....
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 13th Oct 18, 5:26 PM
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    Scotland? No? I ruled it out purely because of the heating bills....
    Originally posted by Smodlet
    The west coast is wet, rather than cold. Like Cornwall, it suffers from being rather a long way from everything else.



    That, and the midges, ruled it out for us.
    A garden is never so good as it will be next year....
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 13th Oct 18, 6:01 PM
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    I know I am incredibly lucky to have my wonderful hubby; I don't think I could have done what money did and done it on my own but then, I would never have been in a position to get a sniff of my dream house without him anyway.
    Originally posted by Smodlet
    You and every single person I can think of wonders why Money (ie myself) did what I did

    I spent the first couple of years here thinking "I had no idea just how different things could be in the same country. Should I have stayed in a damp Victorian house I should have long since moved from/with a tiny kitchen (and I'm a cook) and only a courtyard garden (and I'm a gardener) and put up with all the traffic fumes starting to affect my health and the unsafe layout of my last house?"

    But one gets on with things when there is no logical alternative/makes friends/turns the house into "London style" - and keeps fingers crossed for a lottery or premium bond win#shrugs shoulders.

    One makes the best of what circumstances have presented themselves imo.

    But I hope OP does manage to find the right house for them in their first choice location - fingers crossed.

    Nice to see there are some marrieds who do understand how different life can be for single people - it's appreciated that you do.
    You can't change someone who doesn't see an issue with their actions

    - so next best thing is to work out how to "go round" them when they don't mean what they say - again.....
    • Smodlet
    • By Smodlet 13th Oct 18, 8:12 PM
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    Gosh, there was one crime in my village during August and everyone here is white, except for an Asian chap.

    Not pointing the finger, of course, but statistics never lie.....

    I don't like the way the police have put the crime blob quite close to my house and nowhere near his. They're obviously terrified of a racial hate crime backlash.......


    P.S. Where is the % of people speaking estuary English filter?
    Originally posted by Davesnave

    Really not sure where you are going with this, Davesnave. Are you attempting irony? Think I am missing something.

    You jammy, jammy sod; one crime?

    Someone posted a link to that streetcheck thingy the other week and I checked it out and compared it to where I used to live. When I clicked on the "crime" tab for where I used to live, it came up with nothing in the last year. I believe that because there was nothing in the eleven years we lived there.

    That is just one of myriad reasons why nowhere else will ever be good enough for me. One has to make the best of what life deals out though, right?
    What is this life if, sweet wordsmith, we have no time to take the pith?
    Every stew starts with the first onion.
    I took it upon myself to investigate a trifle; it had custard, jelly, soggy sponge things...
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 13th Oct 18, 8:33 PM
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    Really not sure where you are going with this, Davesnave. Are you attempting irony? Think I am missing something.

    You jammy, jammy sod; one crime?
    Originally posted by Smodlet
    I think I was indicating that raw data on its own might mean different things to different people, so although the figures are correct, my reaction was, of course, ridiculously OTT. I'm good friends with the Asian gentleman, who's been here much, much longer than me

    The number ofof Estuary English speakers here was one of the first things I noticed after 40 years away. I first came to the area from London 60 years ago, when I had to crack the local lingo pretty sharpish or stand out a mile at junior school.Love it. No one cares about accents now.

    Yes, one crime..... shoplifting....and we only have one shop!
    A garden is never so good as it will be next year....
    • Smodlet
    • By Smodlet 13th Oct 18, 8:38 PM
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    You and every single person I can think of wonders why Money (ie myself) did what I did

    Nice to see there are some marrieds who do understand how different life can be for single people - it's appreciated that you do.
    Originally posted by moneyistooshorttomention

    I still remember what shopping for one was like - no bulk buying, no point, no space, never use it before it went off; having to go home from work alone to an empty flat; having no-one to ask when I did not know how to do something (internet not a thing then) and just missing the feeling of being that bit safer in my own home, walking down the street, all of that.

    You are a survivor, Money and have done stuff I could not dream of. You might still find the one... They will need to be fairly adaptable by now, I think OH had his work cut out back then, believe me. I know I am blessed.
    What is this life if, sweet wordsmith, we have no time to take the pith?
    Every stew starts with the first onion.
    I took it upon myself to investigate a trifle; it had custard, jelly, soggy sponge things...
    • Smodlet
    • By Smodlet 13th Oct 18, 8:43 PM
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    I think I was indicating that raw data on its own might mean different things to different people, so although the figures are correct, my reaction was, of course, ridiculously OTT. I'm good friends with the Asian gentleman, who's been here much, much longer than me

    The number ofof Estuary English speakers here was one of the first things I noticed after 40 years away. I first came to the area from London 60 years ago, when I had to crack the local lingo pretty sharpish or stand out a mile at junior school.Love it. No one cares about accents now.

    Yes, one crime..... shoplifting....and we only have one shop!
    Originally posted by Davesnave
    Sure, particulars are not indicated, given crime maps/stats have to be so vague to protect the guilty. Numbers don't lie, they only give an indication of how many crimes go unreported, imho. Don't see what the race thing has to do with anything. Pretty much all white around here. Far more mixed race in my home town where we felt much safer.
    What is this life if, sweet wordsmith, we have no time to take the pith?
    Every stew starts with the first onion.
    I took it upon myself to investigate a trifle; it had custard, jelly, soggy sponge things...
    • Red-Squirrel
    • By Red-Squirrel 13th Oct 18, 9:03 PM
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    I still remember what shopping for one was like - no bulk buying, no point, no space, never use it before it went off; having to go home from work alone to an empty flat; having no-one to ask when I did not know how to do something (internet not a thing then) and just missing the feeling of being that bit safer in my own home, walking down the street, all of that.

    You are a survivor, Money and have done stuff I could not dream of. You might still find the one... They will need to be fairly adaptable by now, I think OH had his work cut out back then, believe me. I know I am blessed.
    Originally posted by Smodlet
    God you make living alone sound like torture, I can assure you its frequently amazing and I bet money will agree there are definite advantages!
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 13th Oct 18, 9:32 PM
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    Don't see what the race thing has to do with anything.
    Originally posted by Smodlet
    It's in the stats. Anyone seeing those might be forgiven for thinking they indicate a closed, interbred sort of community like it was 50 years ago. In reality, roughly half the villagers are incomers from all over the country; it just doesn't show.

    New people are welcomed, because folk mostly realise diversity is the key to living in a lively, happy place, rather than a rural museum. No one cares where you're from, so long as bills are paid and you volunteer for something ....anything! We are very short staffed...
    A garden is never so good as it will be next year....
    • zagubov
    • By zagubov 13th Oct 18, 9:40 PM
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    The west coast is wet, rather than cold. Like Cornwall, it suffers from being rather a long way from everything else.


    That, and the midges, ruled it out for us.
    Originally posted by Davesnave
    As Davesnave says, the west is wet rather than cold. In fact you can recognise the summer as the rain gets lovely and warm. There was even a dreampop band from Philadelphia who named themselves ironically after a member had studied there.

    As for the midges, you don't have to go too far outside the central belt to find yourself in temperate rainforest. So nobody every does.
    There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker
    • Smodlet
    • By Smodlet 13th Oct 18, 9:44 PM
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    God you make living alone sound like torture, I can assure you its frequently amazing and I bet money will agree there are definite advantages!
    Originally posted by Red-Squirrel
    No, I really don't, that is your perception. Sure, there are advantages to not having to share but I will never regret learning how to.

    It's NFL season, fgs! I practically have to book the telly! I don't like having to watch it on this crappy, little computer screen. Would I trade this for having the TV all to myself? Not in a million years.
    What is this life if, sweet wordsmith, we have no time to take the pith?
    Every stew starts with the first onion.
    I took it upon myself to investigate a trifle; it had custard, jelly, soggy sponge things...
    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 13th Oct 18, 9:54 PM
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    It's NFL season, fgs! I practically have to book the telly! I don't like having to watch it on this crappy, little computer screen. Would I trade this for having the TV all to myself? Not in a million years.
    Originally posted by Smodlet
    You want to come and visit our house where there are 6 TVs between 2 of us
    • Red-Squirrel
    • By Red-Squirrel 13th Oct 18, 10:01 PM
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    No, I really don't, that is your perception. Sure, there are advantages to not having to share but I will never regret learning how to.
    Originally posted by Smodlet
    I see what you did there.

    Its ok, I'm not insulted. Its a common misconception I expect.
    Last edited by Red-Squirrel; 13-10-2018 at 10:04 PM.
    • Smodlet
    • By Smodlet 13th Oct 18, 10:14 PM
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    You want to come and visit our house where there are 6 TVs between 2 of us
    Originally posted by Slinky
    Why???????
    What is this life if, sweet wordsmith, we have no time to take the pith?
    Every stew starts with the first onion.
    I took it upon myself to investigate a trifle; it had custard, jelly, soggy sponge things...
    • Smodlet
    • By Smodlet 13th Oct 18, 10:17 PM
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    I see what you did there.

    Its ok, I'm not insulted. Its a common misconception I expect.
    Originally posted by Red-Squirrel
    I am not criticising anyone's lifestyle choice. To each, their own. I have no idea what you are on about, sorry.
    What is this life if, sweet wordsmith, we have no time to take the pith?
    Every stew starts with the first onion.
    I took it upon myself to investigate a trifle; it had custard, jelly, soggy sponge things...
    • Red-Squirrel
    • By Red-Squirrel 13th Oct 18, 10:30 PM
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    I am not criticising anyone's lifestyle choice. To each, their own. I have no idea what you are on about, sorry.
    Originally posted by Smodlet
    Of course.
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 14th Oct 18, 8:40 AM
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    God you make living alone sound like torture, I can assure you its frequently amazing and I bet money will agree there are definite advantages!
    Originally posted by Red-Squirrel
    I'll come back to you on that one - when I think of them...

    Errrm....errrm....well there is a good night's sleep (no-one snoring or the like) and I'm the only one that does the decision-making re the decor (though it's very standard modern style - white walls/neutral carpets/etc - so not going to offend anyone's eyeballs).

    Though my mother would tell me that the woman is the only one that decides on how the house is anyway (she just lets my father think he is having a say too). She chose the house as well - and then came back and told my father "We're moving".....(though I think she was "owed" that one after years of being an Armed Forces wife).
    Last edited by moneyistooshorttomention; 14-10-2018 at 8:43 AM.
    You can't change someone who doesn't see an issue with their actions

    - so next best thing is to work out how to "go round" them when they don't mean what they say - again.....
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 14th Oct 18, 8:50 AM
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    It's NFL season, fgs! I practically have to book the telly! I don't like having to watch it on this crappy, little computer screen. Would I trade this for having the TV all to myself? Not in a million years.
    Originally posted by Smodlet
    Did you know you can get rather large computer screens? I'm not sure whether there are that many of them around - but when I decided I couldn't stand the "crappy little screen" any longer and wanted better I got it. It's actually bigger than my tv.

    Mine is 30" across (ie from top left-hand corner to bottom right-hand corner). Or 25" left to right side. One can pull it up and down to some extent to adjust the height and swivel it around. So I can swivel it around from face-on to my desk to sideways on to sit on an armchair and watch tv programmes on it and sometimes do. There's some sort of fancy-schmancy thingie in it that means one can watch tv programmes more easily without the light being sort of distorted on them.

    It cost around 300 from memory....but they are available. Try googling for Philips computer screens.
    Last edited by moneyistooshorttomention; 14-10-2018 at 8:58 AM.
    You can't change someone who doesn't see an issue with their actions

    - so next best thing is to work out how to "go round" them when they don't mean what they say - again.....
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