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    • XlandRC
    • By XlandRC 30th Sep 18, 7:04 PM
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    UCS demand - help needed please!
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    • 30th Sep 18, 7:04 PM
    UCS demand - help needed please! 30th Sep 18 at 7:04 PM
    Help from experts please!
    I received a PCN from Parking Control Solutions after I parked outside a shop for 3 minutes, the shop was at the start of a private road but I parked where I believed to be customer parking for 3 minutes. I wrote back on a MSE template but heard nothing back, I then received a demand from UCS debt recovery. I wrote to the BPA but my reply stated that there is no evidence that there has been a breach in their code and that since my letter to PCS wasn't sent by recorded delivery it cannot be assumed that the letter was sent. I've now received another letter from UCS - a recommendation of legal action asking for 160 and warning of CCJ's and additional costs on legal action. I don't know what to do from here! I will be grateful for any advice
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    • Redx
    • By Redx 30th Sep 18, 7:10 PM
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    • 30th Sep 18, 7:10 PM
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    • 30th Sep 18, 7:10 PM
    nothing else you can do seeing as its debt collectors chasing you, IGNORE them like post #4 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread tells you to do

    only PCS can issue an MCOL so come back if they issue an LBC or MCOL within 6 years

    pity you did not get a free certificate of posting from the P O Counter

    there was never any need for "signed for", just a free cert of posting is sufficient

    and edit your post above

    the DRIVER may have been parked up on the day , no "ME , MYSELF & I"
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 1st Oct 18, 4:10 PM
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    • #3
    • 1st Oct 18, 4:10 PM
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    • 1st Oct 18, 4:10 PM
    'Ignore the debt collector' stage is fully explained in the NEWBIES thread post #4.

    NO-ONE rings them. NO-ONE is stupid enough to pay.

    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
    • XlandRC
    • By XlandRC 2nd Oct 18, 11:21 AM
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    • #4
    • 2nd Oct 18, 11:21 AM
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    • 2nd Oct 18, 11:21 AM
    Without sounding ignorant what is a LBC or an MCOL? In all correspondence I referred to the driver rather than myself, I should have got proof of posting - my mistake. Can anyone comment how likely it is that this will be taken to court and if it does what's the likely outcome? Would I be able to offer to pay just the original parking fine and would I be responsible for court costs? It's causing me loads of stress! Thanks in advance for any advice!
    • Le_Kirk
    • By Le_Kirk 2nd Oct 18, 11:57 AM
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    • #5
    • 2nd Oct 18, 11:57 AM
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    • 2nd Oct 18, 11:57 AM
    Without sounding ignorant what is a LBC or an MCOL?
    Originally posted by XlandRC
    Back to the NEWBIE sticky post where all the acronyms are explained.
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 2nd Oct 18, 12:54 PM
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    • #6
    • 2nd Oct 18, 12:54 PM
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    • 2nd Oct 18, 12:54 PM
    This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors.

    Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, and another company have already been named and shamed, as has Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each year). They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P.
    for unprofessional conduct

    Hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned.

    The problem has become so rampant that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers. Watch the video of the Second Reading in the House of Commons recently

    http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41 recently.

    and complain in the most robust terms to your MP. With a fair wind they will be out of business by Christmas.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 3rd Oct 18, 2:16 AM
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    • 3rd Oct 18, 2:16 AM
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    • 3rd Oct 18, 2:16 AM
    Can anyone comment how likely it is that this will be taken to court
    Highly unlikely from that little firm, but you will know the exact likelihood if you simply read the NEWBIES thread. In the second post I tell newbies how to view the BMPA/PADI webpages to see how often any named PPC goes to court.

    It's already there waiting for you to calm down and read it.

    They probably used self ticketing at that site, some local 'Norris Cole' idiot:

    http://parkingcontrolsolutions.co.uk/self-ticketing

    and if it does what's the likely outcome?
    We see 99% of people report a win. Worst case, you lose and pay about 175.

    Would I be able to offer to pay just the original parking fine
    Nope, and it's not a parking fine.

    and would I be responsible for court costs?
    Only to the tune of about fifty quid on top, if you were one of the 1% who lose.

    No CCJ, no effect on credit rating and you'd have 30 days to pay if you were one of the few who lose, once they have found this forum. Really no big deal.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
    • XlandRC
    • By XlandRC 18th Oct 18, 8:21 AM
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    • 18th Oct 18, 8:21 AM
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    • 18th Oct 18, 8:21 AM
    Thanks for all the advice - I've read the newbies thread and it's great to know that even if this does go to court I can still fight it! I've now received a letter from CSB Solicitors to prepare for possible legal proceedings, it actually says that a judgement could be registered - is this possible as from the above advice I assumed not! It says it could remain for 6 years.. Thanks again guys!
    • XlandRC
    • By XlandRC 18th Oct 18, 8:23 AM
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    • 18th Oct 18, 8:23 AM
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    • 18th Oct 18, 8:23 AM
    And also the letter suggests to put 'proposals in respect of this debt in writing' - should I respond?
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 18th Oct 18, 9:03 AM
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    Thanks for all the advice - I've read the newbies thread and it's great to know that even if this does go to court I can still fight it! I've now received a letter from CSB Solicitors to prepare for possible legal proceedings, it actually says that a judgement could be registered - is this possible as from the above advice I assumed not! It says it could remain for 6 years.. Thanks again guys!
    Originally posted by XlandRC
    CSB are also debt collectors

    Just like all these bods involved in the parking scam, they
    are trying to scare you.

    to prepare for possible legal proceedings

    It is CBS who must prepare as they are required to
    send you an LBA first which you can respond to, giving
    you 30 days to reply ... that is if they act as a solicitor
    but they run a high risk of being whooped in court

    Clearly CBS with their threats don't actually know how
    it works.

    Let us tell them
    HOW YOU CAN GET A CCJ (County Court Judgement)

    1: They must firstly take you to court
    2: You have the opportunity to defend
    3: A judge will rule who is the winner
    4: If you lose (doubtful), the judge will make
    an order for you to pay (normally with 28 days)
    5: If you ignore the court and do not pay, then
    you will get a CCJ
    6: However if you do pay as the court orders,
    that is it ...... NO CCJ .. NO ENTRIES ON YOUR
    CREDIT FILE

    DANGER POINT .... If you ignore official claims from
    Northampton


    And also the letter suggests to put 'proposals in respect of this debt in writing' - should I respond?

    Why would you talk to powerless debt collectors ????
    Last edited by beamerguy; 18-10-2018 at 9:14 AM.
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 18th Oct 18, 10:37 AM
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    Read all about them!

    https://www.csblaw.co.uk/debt-recovery-law/
    Please note, we are not a legal, residential or credit advice forum, rather one that helps motorists fight private parking charges, primarily at the 'front-end' of the process.
    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • XlandRC
    • By XlandRC 2nd Nov 18, 8:48 AM
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    Thanks guys! I'll sit tight and see what happens next!
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 2nd Nov 18, 11:55 AM
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    [B]I've now received a letter from CSB Solicitors to prepare for possible legal proceedings, [/B

    How much do they want?

    If you feel that this firm, which is known unfavourably to us, has stepped one inch outside their Code of Conduct

    http://www.sra.org.uk/solicitors/handbook/code/content.page

    please report them to their regulatory body.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • XlandRC
    • By XlandRC 9th Nov 18, 10:27 AM
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    The latest letter i've received is from UCS again stating that they have recommended their creditor to take legal action. They have offered the chance to pay a one off payment of 120 - they say by this offer they are complying to the court with 'practice direction on pre-action conduct and protocols'

    Would it be easier to just pay this amount than risk it going to court? This is causing me a lot of stress!
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 9th Nov 18, 10:27 PM
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    Would it be easier to just pay this amount than risk it going to court?
    Originally posted by XlandRC
    Easier? Yes of course it would.

    Please let us know if you do decide to do that.
    .
    • XlandRC
    • By XlandRC 16th Nov 18, 8:46 AM
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    Decided to ignore the last letter after reading similar threats so I may be back on for advice if I get a letter from court!
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