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    • Joe98
    • By Joe98 14th Sep 18, 5:31 PM
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    Speeding ticket - manned equipment??
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    • 14th Sep 18, 5:31 PM
    Speeding ticket - manned equipment?? 14th Sep 18 at 5:31 PM
    Hi all,

    Today I received a speeding fine from manned equipment in a temporary 50mph zone due to road works. The NIP states I was going 66mph and caught by manned equipment, it says i was travelling at this speed on the 07/09/18 and received the fine today... What should I do? Itís asking me to send my details, can I avoid this fine? I recently lost my job and have already been on a speed awareness course over a year ago.
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    • z1a
    • By z1a 14th Sep 18, 5:35 PM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 5:35 PM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 5:35 PM
    You haven't been fined yet, fill in details as required and return.
    No, you can't avoid it.
    • Joe98
    • By Joe98 14th Sep 18, 5:47 PM
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    • #3
    • 14th Sep 18, 5:47 PM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 5:47 PM
    Why would I send my details back if I havenít been fined yet? Surely I should just tell them nothing so I donít get a fine? I can not afford it I have no job...
    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 14th Sep 18, 5:50 PM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 5:50 PM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 5:50 PM
    Why would I send my details back if I havenít been fined yet? Surely I should just tell them nothing so I donít get a fine? I can not afford it I have no job...
    Originally posted by Joe98
    If you tell them nothing, you will get 6 points and a much higher fine.
    • Joe98
    • By Joe98 14th Sep 18, 6:09 PM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 6:09 PM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 6:09 PM
    How many points am I looking at and what fine would they give me seeing as I have no income?
    • k3lvc
    • By k3lvc 14th Sep 18, 6:18 PM
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    • #6
    • 14th Sep 18, 6:18 PM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 6:18 PM
    If you're lucky it'll be a fixed penalty - 3pts and £100.

    If you try and get out of it you could be looking at multiples of that
    • z1a
    • By z1a 14th Sep 18, 6:24 PM
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    • #7
    • 14th Sep 18, 6:24 PM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 6:24 PM
    Must be a poor attempt at a wind up.
    • EssexExile
    • By EssexExile 14th Sep 18, 6:40 PM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 6:40 PM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 6:40 PM
    Whatever the numbers, the penalty for not returning the NIP with the details required is bigger than the penalty for speeding.
    Tall, dark & handsome. Well two out of three ain't bad.
    • waamo
    • By waamo 14th Sep 18, 6:42 PM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 6:42 PM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 6:42 PM
    Send the form back and you get £100 and 3points.

    Don't send it back it's 6points and up to £1000. Plus your insurance will be hiked for that offence too.

    As our American cousins would say you do the maths.
    This space for hire.
    • treboeth
    • By treboeth 14th Sep 18, 6:59 PM
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    Send the form back and you get £100 and 3points.

    Don't send it back it's 6points and up to £1000. Plus your insurance will be hiked for that offence too.

    As our American cousins would say you do the maths.
    Originally posted by waamo

    Math

    Can we set up a gofundme page for the OP
    • TooManyPoints
    • By TooManyPoints 14th Sep 18, 8:32 PM
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    You haven’t received a fine. What you have is a Notice of Intended Prosecution (a “NIP”) and a request for driver’s details (a “Section 172 Notice” so-called after the part of the Road Traffic Act which provides for it). The requirement on you is that you need to respond to the S172 notice within 28 days of it being served on you. It is deemed served two working days after it was posted. Look at the date on it, add thirty days and it needs to get back to the return address by then. If you received it today it should be returned by (roughly) 12th October. What actually happens next is largely up to you.

    Scenario One (the silly route): You can choose to ignore the notice it if you wish. You will then receive notification of court action under Section 172. Since you seem to have no defence to the charge (you have received the notice and you know who was driving) you will face a fine (assuming you plead guilty) of a week’s net income. Since you have no income the court will use a default minimum of £120pw. You will pay a surcharge of 10% of the fine (the minimum is £30) and £85 costs. So, a total of £235. Your licence will be endorsed with six points and an endorsement code – MS90 – which will see your insurance premiums rocket for up to five years

    Scenario Two (the sensible route). You can return the request for information in time. The speed alleged qualifies for a fixed penalty of £100 and three points (with a much more insurer-friendly SP30 or SP50 endorsement code). Within a short while of sending in your details you will receive the fixed penalty offer. When you get it simply accept the offer by sending in your £100 accompanied by your licence. (Do not forget this. If you do your £100 will be returned and you will face - much more expensive – court action).
    • Ergates
    • By Ergates 14th Sep 18, 8:43 PM
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    I can not afford it I have no job...
    Originally posted by Joe98
    Probably should have thought of that before you went sailing past the 50 signs at 66...
    • waamo
    • By waamo 14th Sep 18, 10:53 PM
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    Math

    Can we set up a gofundme page for the OP
    Originally posted by treboeth
    Leaving a perfectly good "s" off is an abomination.
    This space for hire.
    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 15th Sep 18, 5:41 PM
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    Leaving a perfectly good "s" off is an abomination.
    Originally posted by waamo
    But our fine American cousins do indeed miss out the s at the end of the very American slogan you used.
    • waamo
    • By waamo 15th Sep 18, 6:06 PM
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    But our fine American cousins do indeed miss out the s at the end of the very American slogan you used.
    Originally posted by Mercdriver
    Our fine American cousins do many things that I have no wish to copy. Whilst the expression is theirs the language is ours.
    This space for hire.
    • Deastons
    • By Deastons 15th Sep 18, 6:30 PM
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    I recently lost my job
    Originally posted by Joe98
    What does this have to do with breaking the speed limit?

    Sorry, ignore that - I see now it's because you're concerned about paying the fine.
    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 15th Sep 18, 6:35 PM
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    Hi all,

    Today I received a speeding fine from manned equipment in a temporary 50mph zone due to road works. The NIP states I was going 66mph and caught by manned equipment, it says i was travelling at this speed on the 07/09/18 and received the fine today... What should I do? Itís asking me to send my details, can I avoid this fine? I recently lost my job and have already been on a speed awareness course over a year ago.
    Originally posted by Joe98

    To be blunt, if you can't afford an unexpected £100 payout then you can't afford to run a car.
    • TooManyPoints
    • By TooManyPoints 15th Sep 18, 8:50 PM
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    But our fine American cousins do indeed miss out the s at the end of the very American slogan you used
    That's because they mistakenly believe that "mathematics" or "maths" is a plural and that a single calculation is therefore a "math".
    • Deastons
    • By Deastons 16th Sep 18, 7:10 AM
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    Hi all,

    Today I received a speeding fine from manned equipment in a temporary 50mph zone due to road works.
    Originally posted by Joe98
    Was this on the M1 near Watford by any chance? I wonder if you're one of the many drivers that overtake me through those roadworks.

    And as they do, I fantasise about them getting a fine and panicking about not being able to pay it.
    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 16th Sep 18, 3:49 PM
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    Was this on the M1 near Watford by any chance? I wonder if you're one of the many drivers that overtake me through those roadworks.

    And as they do, I fantasise about them getting a fine and panicking about not being able to pay it.
    Originally posted by Deastons
    Can you go away and come back when you've got something helpful to add? You can gloat privately without making it public, you know!
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