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    • imran22
    • By imran22 13th Sep 18, 5:00 PM
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    Apply for NI number
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    • 13th Sep 18, 5:00 PM
    Apply for NI number 13th Sep 18 at 5:00 PM
    Hello members

    My wife does not have NI number. I did not bother applying for one because she is a house wife and there were no plans for her to work until our children are of school going age.

    I have now realised that she is eligible for national insurance credits even if we don't claim child benefits. This means she needs an NI number.

    When we booked an appointment we were asked why we want NI number for her and I just had to come up with something on the phone.

    But when she attends the interview can we say that we want NI number so that my wife can claim national insurance credits. Is this enough justification to ask for one?

    Also I was recently buying travel insurance and in the eligibility some of them demand that the person has NI number. Also she can't hire a car either. Can all these reasons be quoted for application?

    She became a British national 4 years ago does that automatically make here eligible as well for NI number.

    Sorry for two many questions but thanks in advance for your help.
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    • xylophone
    • By xylophone 13th Sep 18, 5:05 PM
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    • 13th Sep 18, 5:05 PM
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    • 13th Sep 18, 5:05 PM
    https://www.gov.uk/apply-national-insurance-number

    https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/child-benefit-claim
    • imran22
    • By imran22 13th Sep 18, 6:20 PM
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    • 13th Sep 18, 6:20 PM
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    • 13th Sep 18, 6:20 PM
    Thank you for your reply.

    My question is not about how to apply or whether we are eligible for child benefits.

    My question is about whether we need to justify why we need NI number. If yes then just saying that we need it so my wife can get national insurance credits provides enough justification?

    Or being a British national makes you eligible for NI number and we do not need to provide further evidence why we need NI number.
    • sheramber
    • By sheramber 13th Sep 18, 7:06 PM
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    • 13th Sep 18, 7:06 PM
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    • 13th Sep 18, 7:06 PM
    Are you entitled to apply for child benefit?

    She can only get NI credits if you are entitled to get child benefit but choose not to receive the money e.g. due to high income.
    • w06
    • By w06 13th Sep 18, 8:04 PM
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    • 13th Sep 18, 8:04 PM
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    • 13th Sep 18, 8:04 PM
    that's not right i don't htink sheramber, https://www.gov.uk/child-benefit/what-youll-get

    Imran, a friend I've just asked doesn't recall having to justify why she wanted the NI number at all when she got one after getting her visa. If you're born here you get it automatically at 16 and so if she has right to work or recourse to public funds it shouldn't be an issue at all.
    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 13th Sep 18, 10:33 PM
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    • 13th Sep 18, 10:33 PM
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    • 13th Sep 18, 10:33 PM
    Are you entitled to apply for child benefit?

    She can only get NI credits if you are entitled to get child benefit but choose not to receive the money e.g. due to high income.
    Originally posted by sheramber
    You get credits if you receive child benefit or are are entitled to it but have chosen not to receive it.
    • imran22
    • By imran22 14th Sep 18, 8:22 AM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 8:22 AM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 8:22 AM
    Thank you for your replies.

    I come under high-income bracket therefore I decided not to claim as I have to fill forms to then pay tax on the claimed benefits.

    My understanding is that my wife can still claim for national insurance credits because she is a full-time parent.

    On first page of child benefits form it says you should apply for child benefits when in high income bracket but opt to not take the money. This will protect state pension of my wife and allow my children to receive NI numbers.

    My intention is to complete the form and give it to my wife to take along to the NI number interview as a reason to apply.

    Will that work?
    • w06
    • By w06 14th Sep 18, 12:17 PM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 12:17 PM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 12:17 PM
    sounds a good plan, that's my understanding of the entitlement to credits too - if the little ones are under I think it's 12.
    • imran22
    • By imran22 14th Sep 18, 5:40 PM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 5:40 PM
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    • 14th Sep 18, 5:40 PM
    Is there a chance that they might say to my wife that if you do not have the NI number then your husband can apply for credits?

    Does anyone know if a person is a UK national then they should have the NI number and we don't need any justification for our application
    • sheramber
    • By sheramber 14th Sep 18, 7:19 PM
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    You get credits if you receive child benefit or are are entitled to it but have chosen not to receive it.
    Originally posted by calcotti

    You don't need to claim NIC credits if you are getting child benefit - you automatically receive them.

    If you claim it bit do not take the payment then you need to claim it.
    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 14th Sep 18, 9:04 PM
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    You don't need to claim NIC credits if you are getting child benefit - you automatically receive them.

    If you claim it bit do not take the payment then you need to claim it.
    Originally posted by sheramber
    I thought that was what Id said.
    • imran22
    • By imran22 21st Sep 18, 8:35 PM
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    Hello members

    My wife soon has her NI number interview. Can you please recommend which reason we should quote from following:

    1. I want to apply for NI number because I want to earn national insurance credits as I am a full-time mother and husband is in high earner category. This will allow my children to get their NI numbers when they turn 16

    OR

    2. I want to apply jobs in future therefore want to apply NI number

    Both points are true but for simplicity I think we should quote one. Which one is likely to get us through the interview quicker and enable my wife to get her NI number

    Thank you for your help
    • cattie
    • By cattie 22nd Sep 18, 12:58 PM
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    In the unlikely event that she is asked why she wants a NI number, it's perfectly acceptable to just say that she has only just realised that she is entitled to one & that it would be essential if starting work or for any future benefit claims such as state pension.
    The bigger the bargain, the better I feel.

    I should mention that there's only one of me, don't confuse me with others of the same name.
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