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    • WabbitWabbit
    • By WabbitWabbit 9th Aug 18, 10:24 PM
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    Living overseas visiting UK for surgery on NHS
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    • 9th Aug 18, 10:24 PM
    Living overseas visiting UK for surgery on NHS 9th Aug 18 at 10:24 PM
    Not sure if this is the right place to post, please move if not.

    Can someone who was born in the UK but has lived outside of Europe for the last 12 years return to the UK for surgery under the NHS?
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    • GlasweJen
    • By GlasweJen 10th Aug 18, 9:38 PM
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    We check GP records, if you've got a gap in your GP registration and can't prove you were registered elsewhere in the U.K. in the last year before your referral we need evidence that you were in the U.K. and it must be from a government source such as council tax records or letters from the MOD confirming you were on active service abroad. We don't even automatically treat partners of military personnel who travelled abroad to live while their partners were stationed on long term posts, there's a whole campaign surrounding this.

    We are able to do this as GPs know when someone has moved on and can update their records more easily in our area, this is much harder to police in the cities. We do actively check when someone hasn't contacted their surgery for a certain amount of time and deregister them if no contact is made in response.
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    • WabbitWabbit
    • By WabbitWabbit 10th Aug 18, 10:45 PM
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    So basically you are saying you are happy for people to defraud the NHS and people wonder why the NHS has no money anymore!
    Originally posted by tomtom256
    I am the original poster, I have never said that I am happy for someone to defraud the NHS.
    In my view what this person is doing is wrong but as I was not sure I posted here asking.
    Maybe because I said that anyone can say yes to a machine, is that why you seem to think I am happy?
    Go back and read my posts before making a hasty judgement!
    • calcotti
    • By calcotti 10th Aug 18, 11:33 PM
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    Just makes me cross . . .
    Originally posted by WabbitWabbit
    I think you made your point of view quite clear!!!
    • JamoLew
    • By JamoLew 11th Aug 18, 8:16 AM
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    Nothing wrong with informing the trust of your concerns if/when this happens.
    I work for the NHS and these kind of scenarios drive me mad.
    • tomtom256
    • By tomtom256 11th Aug 18, 9:41 AM
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    I am the original poster, I have never said that I am happy for someone to defraud the NHS.
    In my view what this person is doing is wrong but as I was not sure I posted here asking.
    Maybe because I said that anyone can say yes to a machine, is that why you seem to think I am happy?
    Go back and read my posts before making a hasty judgement!
    Originally posted by WabbitWabbit

    Your posts appear to advocate it and come across as if x did this would x get away with it..
    • Thomas The Tank Top
    • By Thomas The Tank Top 11th Aug 18, 11:10 AM
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    We check GP records, if you've got a gap in your GP registration and can't prove you were registered elsewhere in the U.K. in the last year before your referral we need evidence that you were in the U.K. and it must be from a government source such as council tax records or letters from the MOD confirming you were on active service abroad. We don't even automatically treat partners of military personnel who travelled abroad to live while their partners were stationed on long term posts, there's a whole campaign surrounding this.

    We are able to do this as GPs know when someone has moved on and can update their records more easily in our area, this is much harder to police in the cities. We do actively check when someone hasn't contacted their surgery for a certain amount of time and deregister them if no contact is made in response.
    Originally posted by GlasweJen
    Jen me hearty. I started work in 1976 (24 years RN) and never been out of work.

    Paid my NI an Tax through PAYE.

    I've never used the NHS. Never seen a Doctor and never had a sick day.

    How would the system see me?
    • GlasweJen
    • By GlasweJen 11th Aug 18, 1:26 PM
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    Jen me hearty. I started work in 1976 (24 years RN) and never been out of work.

    Paid my NI an Tax through PAYE.

    I've never used the NHS. Never seen a Doctor and never had a sick day.

    How would the system see me?
    Originally posted by Thomas The Tank Top
    You'll be registered with a GP because you've not left the country (I assume).

    I work in the rural highlands, GPs have much better idea of who their patients are and have much better control of who they have in their area. Because of the strain on our particular community (no one wants to live in the back of beyond and send their kids to a school with 1 teacher and high school is a boat ride and a bus away, there's no Tesco or Asda or anything remotely like city life), if you don't visit a GP for a certain length of time or if someone new registers with the doctor who lives in the same address as someone who hasn't been seen in a while a letter goes out asking them to send and return proof that they still live in the U.K. by X date. It keeps doctors lists realistic as otherwise the doctor would be refusing new people to the area because they're full when really a lot of people have moved out of catchment but it's also handy for hospital admissions.

    If you don't return the letter then pitch up for a cataract operation 5 years later your old GP will transfer your records up here and it's fine, unless you've not had a U.K. GP because you've not been in the U.K.

    If you've not registered with a GP ever then why not? My husbands not used his GP since school but he's still registered with one somewhere (I think he's still registered with the GP closest to his old school down in the central belt).

    I don't know why all GPs don't do it, opticians all automatically recall their patients after so many years and they have much less funding in place and aren't an essential gateway to nhs services in the same way GPs are.
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    • Thomas The Tank Top
    • By Thomas The Tank Top 11th Aug 18, 8:46 PM
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    Right you are Jen.

    Since I left the RN I did register with a dentist, but not a Dr. So I suppose I had better do this as well. I only need to see him if I have too - So far, no need.

    Rural Highlands sounds pretty much like the Falklands. Where one can look out over wide open nothingness!
    • GlasweJen
    • By GlasweJen 12th Aug 18, 10:09 AM
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    I've been known to sit out in my garden every afternoon for a week and not see a single other person.
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