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Normal wear and tear

66.67% • 10 votes

Damaged and need repair

33.33% • 5 votes

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15 votes in total.

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    • jackpina
    • By jackpina 9th Aug 18, 6:05 PM
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    Tenant problem please help
    • #1
    • 9th Aug 18, 6:05 PM
    Tenant problem please help 9th Aug 18 at 6:05 PM
    I dont know if this is the right place to post this

    i've been asked to replace this stovetop for the landlord as he say i damaged his stovetop.
    i64.tinypic.com/2jcyl1e.jpg
    i66.tinypic.com/2el5q0x.jpg
    Is this normal wear and tear (then i will send it for dispute) or was it my fault that i damaged it?

    Also can someone please tell me what the stovetop model number is please so i can find replacement/repair if needed. It is Whirlpool 58cm x 51cm Schott Caren bought in 2008.
    i66.tinypic.com/2po75ld.jpg

    Appreciated!
    Last edited by jackpina; 09-08-2018 at 6:09 PM.
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    • powerful_Rogue
    • By powerful_Rogue 9th Aug 18, 6:40 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 6:40 PM
    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2jcyl1e&s=9#.W2x8IbgnaUk
    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2el5q0x&s=9#.W2x8PbgnaUk


    Looks damaged to me. What did it look like when you moved in?
    • Fosterdog
    • By Fosterdog 9th Aug 18, 6:48 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 6:48 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 6:48 PM
    Looks damaged to me too, as above what did it look like when you moved in and how long have you been there? What have you been using to clean it?
    • unholyangel
    • By unholyangel 9th Aug 18, 6:49 PM
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    • #4
    • 9th Aug 18, 6:49 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 6:49 PM
    A pic of the whole hob:
    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2po75ld&s=9#.W2x9rNVKhhE


    Tbh its hard to tell from the pics you've provided. In the first 2 pics you posted it looks like its scratches on the other side of the glass.
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    • steampowered
    • By steampowered 9th Aug 18, 6:53 PM
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    • #5
    • 9th Aug 18, 6:53 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 6:53 PM
    Are those pictures from when you moved out?

    It is difficult to know whether you are responsible without also seeing pictures from when you moved in. The pictures look like small scratches to me which I think is expected over 10 years of use.

    You should also be aware that, even if you did damage the stove, the landlord is not entitled to 'betterment'. In other words, the deduction should take account of the fact that the stove was already 10 years old - the landlord is not entitled to require you to pay the whole cost of a completely new stove.

    One of the deposit schemes has published some guidance about this: see the page about wear and tear here - https://www.mydeposits.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/A-Guide-to-Deposits-Disputes-and-Damages.pdf.
    Last edited by steampowered; 09-08-2018 at 8:16 PM.
    • zoob
    • By zoob 9th Aug 18, 7:46 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 7:46 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 7:46 PM
    It!!!8217;s just normal wear and tear on the front right ring and if cleaned properly with proper hob cleaner and a hob scraper can be removed
    Landlord chancing his arm or really thick or even both
    • bris
    • By bris 9th Aug 18, 7:52 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 7:52 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 7:52 PM
    I would dispute the whole lot and uses the 10 years of wear and tear as an excuse. I can't see you losing tbh.


    I would certainly not be replacing it as that's a big win for the LL and as already stated betterment which the LL is not entitled too.
    • zoob
    • By zoob 9th Aug 18, 8:13 PM
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    • #8
    • 9th Aug 18, 8:13 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 8:13 PM
    It looks in great condition for a 10 year old hob I!!!8217;ve seen worse after 6 months
    • pinkshoes
    • By pinkshoes 9th Aug 18, 9:19 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 9:19 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 9:19 PM
    It just looks like wear an tear from a pan being moved over it.

    It happens over time with hobs like that. At 10 years old it looks quite good! I have seen far far worse!!
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    • jackpina
    • By jackpina 10th Aug 18, 1:29 PM
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    I've rented it for 2 years so 2016, and i cook most of my meals so 2-3 meals a day. I believe the scratches are from moving the pan while cooking which is normal?
    The overall picture is just a photo found online just to ask for the model number, it is not my hob. The 2 scratched photos of the same ring that is damaged, the 3 others have no scratch. Unfortunately, i dont have a photo before so lets assume it had no scratch on it.
    Other than dispute, The landlord has asked me to either repair or replace the hob. Repairing it cost 114 pounds. He has also sent me a new hob that i can replace it with that cost 250 pounds not including labour. What should i do?
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 10th Aug 18, 1:48 PM
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    Might be better to PM a board guide and get this moved to The House Buying, Renting & Selling Board. The experts on this sort of thing live over there.
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    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 10th Aug 18, 5:22 PM
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    I'd agree with DoaM, but if you can you should remove the poll as it's unnecessary and just gets people annoyed. It's very rare that they add anything to a thread, and in many cases, such as this one, they add nothing at all.
    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 10th Aug 18, 6:13 PM
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    Pff!I really couldn't care whether someone adds a poll or not
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 10th Aug 18, 8:52 PM
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    Pff!I really couldn't care whether someone adds a poll or not
    Originally posted by hollydays

    Maybe we could have a poll to see who likes them and who doesn't
    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 10th Aug 18, 9:52 PM
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    Maybe we could have a poll to see who likes them and who doesn't
    Originally posted by agrinnall
    I dares ya
    • whitegoods_engineer
    • By whitegoods_engineer 19th Aug 18, 7:38 PM
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    As an appliance engineer of nearly 30 years, I would say that this is normal wear & tear.

    It is ridiculous for a landlord to expect a glass hob top to be in showroom condition after normal usage.

    You're putting pans on the top which is going to affect the surface. Have you felt the weight of a filled pan of liquid? Now place that on glass.
    What does your landlord think will happen???
    Scratches and imperfections are fully expected to occur. What on earth does he expect? A completely unused, unblemished condition?

    No, this is perfectly normal and I wouldn't expect anything different after that length of time.

    Your landlord is trying it on! Tell him you'll get a report done from an appliance repairer to assess if it is misuse or normal wear, and tell him you'll expect him to foot that cost if, as will undoubtedly be the case, it is deemed normal.
    • unholyangel
    • By unholyangel 19th Aug 18, 10:19 PM
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    Not that this is anything to do with OP's issue but on the forum view, it was telling me the last reply was from whitegoods engineer at 9:39pm. Enter the thread and the last post was 7:38pm.

    I did think that perhaps it may be counting poll votes but the last vote cast was for damaged & needs repair while WGEs post content seems to indicate he believes its natural wear & tear.
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