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    • westernpromise
    • By westernpromise 9th Aug 18, 5:45 PM
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    Dodgy cruise control
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    • 9th Aug 18, 5:45 PM
    Dodgy cruise control 9th Aug 18 at 5:45 PM
    The cruise control on the last two Hondas we've had doesn't work downhill. Anyone else find this?

    I use the cruise around town to be sure of staying under the limit. If you're going uphill or on the flat at 30, you hit the button to engage it, and you will stay at 30. But! As soon as you are over that hill and going downhill, the cruise control does not apply the brakes to keep you at 30. You start to gather speed, and if you thought the cruise control would keep your speed legal, you're in for a nasty surprise if you aren't paying attention.

    This cost me a speed awareness course 5 years ago, and Honda hasn't fixed it that I know of. Other makes I've driven have no such problem. Does anyone else find this? There's nothing in the driver's manual that explains why this happens or how to prevent it.
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    • Jonesya
    • By Jonesya 9th Aug 18, 9:06 PM
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    EFA.

    I can see why he hates Audis now - all these young upstarts driving their fancy fast cars.

    Originally posted by motorguy
    Audi? Now if you were talking about a Tesla.... that is something to aspire to.
    • mattyprice4004
    • By mattyprice4004 10th Aug 18, 2:00 AM
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    For the record, I have a very snotty / old BMW 330d auto - this drops a gear downhill on cruise for engine braking.
    Your automatic should have engine braking downhill.

    Buying an Audi is a daft solution, you'll end up with working cruise control but 9,000 other issues! The biggest being you're now an Audi driver
    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 10th Aug 18, 7:31 AM
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    My car is an auto and it seems to maintain the set speed on downhill stretches. It doesn't apply the brakes so it must rely on engine braking.

    I suppose it may depend on which gears the converter locks up in and to what extent.
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    • westernpromise
    • By westernpromise 10th Aug 18, 9:52 AM
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    Sounds like its just shitty then.

    You need to get yourself a good Audi.

    Originally posted by motorguy
    2013 Hondas were pretty up to date in 2013, or so the wife told me when she made me buy her one.

    I'm not keen on shed shaped cars myself.

    A "good" Audi? Sorry, I don't understand.
    • westernpromise
    • By westernpromise 10th Aug 18, 9:53 AM
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    Yes, definitely careless. Weren't you aware of the car speeding up?
    Originally posted by Car 54
    By the time it got to 36, yes. Which was too late. No, I can't tell the difference between 30 and 33 by looking out of the windows and neither can anyone else.
    • missile
    • By missile 10th Aug 18, 9:57 AM
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    Audi? Now if you were talking about a Tesla.... that is something to aspire to.
    Originally posted by Jonesya
    I drove an electric car once ...................... it was a milk float
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    • missile
    • By missile 10th Aug 18, 10:11 AM
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz7Gl49Z5oI
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    • facade
    • By facade 10th Aug 18, 10:48 AM
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    This is a 2013 model Honda, so I don't call that old. It's an automatic so there is no engine braking.
    Originally posted by westernpromise

    It is broken then (Possible, even Honda build quality has been going down since around 2010)


    A torque converter should lock up at about 45 and maintain the lock down to around 35.
    There is less engine braking when it isn't locked up, but it is still there.


    (If it is some sort of dreadful CVT, I have no idea, I'd expect it to go for minimum ratio, and then it would have some engine braking)
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science )
    • Merlin139
    • By Merlin139 10th Aug 18, 11:03 AM
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    My Honda uses my right hand as its cruise control! If yours is not working correctly and you got a speed awareness course take Honda to court for the cost.
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    • westernpromise
    • By westernpromise 10th Aug 18, 11:06 AM
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    AFAIK the point of an auto is that it self-changes up or down with the revs. If the revs rise because you're rolling downhill the thing would if anything change up, reducing any engine braking effect. But from the sound of it, it isn't trying to do any anyway.
    • westernpromise
    • By westernpromise 10th Aug 18, 11:10 AM
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    My Honda uses my right hand as its cruise control! If yours is not working correctly and you got a speed awareness course take Honda to court for the cost.
    Originally posted by Merlin139
    It was 5 years so I CBA. But I have noticed that only Hondas seem to have this issue. Everything else I drive maintains the cruise speed regardless of slope. The other irritating thing is that it only works at 30 or above, which is increasingly useless around London where there are 20mph limits everywhere. It is extremely convenient to set the cruise to 20 and take care of it, because 25 feels no different but is enough to get you fined.
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 10th Aug 18, 11:14 AM
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    AFAIK the point of an auto is that it self-changes up or down with the revs. If the revs rise because you're rolling downhill the thing would if anything change up, reducing any engine braking effect. But from the sound of it, it isn't trying to do any anyway.
    Originally posted by westernpromise
    Thats why the majority of autos enable you to change gear to stop this.
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    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 10th Aug 18, 12:43 PM
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    By the time it got to 36, yes. Which was too late. No, I can't tell the difference between 30 and 33 by looking out of the windows and neither can anyone else.
    Originally posted by westernpromise
    You can, however tell by looking at the speedometer in front of you?
    "We have normality. I repeat, we have normality. Anything you still can't cope with is therefore your own problem."
    • waamo
    • By waamo 10th Aug 18, 12:50 PM
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    You can, however tell by looking at the speedometer in front of you?
    Originally posted by motorguy
    Many people find their eyesight tends to deteriorate as they enter their dotage though.
    This space for hire.
    • westernpromise
    • By westernpromise 10th Aug 18, 12:56 PM
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    I never look at the speedometer.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 10th Aug 18, 12:58 PM
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    I never look at the speedometer.
    Originally posted by westernpromise
    Too busy looking for Audi drivers to be outraged by presumably?
    "We have normality. I repeat, we have normality. Anything you still can't cope with is therefore your own problem."
    • westernpromise
    • By westernpromise 10th Aug 18, 1:05 PM
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    Pity =/= outrage.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 10th Aug 18, 1:09 PM
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    Pity =/= outrage.
    Originally posted by westernpromise
    I think for all your profile raising about Audi drivers, its you we all feel sorry for, not them.
    "We have normality. I repeat, we have normality. Anything you still can't cope with is therefore your own problem."
    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 10th Aug 18, 1:13 PM
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    Works fine on Audis.
    Originally posted by motorguy
    Wow, really? I thought Audi's were just cheap cars with an expensive badge? Funny how they make stuff that works.
    • waamo
    • By waamo 10th Aug 18, 1:49 PM
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    I never look at the speedometer.
    Originally posted by westernpromise
    Typical CR-V driver then. A bit like this one https://jalopnik.com/kansans-are-going-crazy-over-a-terrible-driver-nickname-1794497385
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