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    • monkey74
    • By monkey74 19th Jul 18, 5:04 PM
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    TV License - but it's to keep burglars away
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    • 19th Jul 18, 5:04 PM
    TV License - but it's to keep burglars away 19th Jul 18 at 5:04 PM
    I can't find anything on this. If I use the TV only to keep burglars at bay when I go out, and only the cat is watching, do I need a license?
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    • littleboo
    • By littleboo 19th Jul 18, 5:40 PM
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    I can't find anything on this. If I use the TV only to keep burglars at bay when I go out, and only the cat is watching, do I need a license?
    Originally posted by monkey74
    No, but the cat does
    • mije1983
    • By mije1983 19th Jul 18, 6:50 PM
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    School's out?

    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 19th Jul 18, 6:52 PM
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    • 19th Jul 18, 6:52 PM
    Cats can't see telly as their brains work at the wrong speed.

    You can get a gadget that makes fake TV flickering, probably costs 10-25 or so... maybe cheaper.

    The cat can watch the gadget.... leave a radio on and he'll have no idea.
    • Neil Jones
    • By Neil Jones 19th Jul 18, 7:26 PM
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    • 19th Jul 18, 7:26 PM
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    • 19th Jul 18, 7:26 PM
    Cats can't see telly as their brains work at the wrong speed.
    Originally posted by PasturesNew
    They can "see TV" actually, though they don't get a lot of benefit out of it because they don't realise its just a picture on a screen, so they'll think what they see is real. Our old family cat saw a bird on the TV once and decided to try and catch it
    • Cornucopia
    • By Cornucopia 19th Jul 18, 7:35 PM
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    • 19th Jul 18, 7:35 PM
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    • 19th Jul 18, 7:35 PM
    They just need to hit paws.
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    • silverwhistle
    • By silverwhistle 19th Jul 18, 8:13 PM
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    My radio is so old it has cat's whiskers.
    • Cornucopia
    • By Cornucopia 19th Jul 18, 8:16 PM
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    • 19th Jul 18, 8:16 PM
    Live mews at 10.
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    • mije1983
    • By mije1983 19th Jul 18, 8:24 PM
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    • 19th Jul 18, 8:24 PM
    Forget the TV, music should be fine for your feline friend. I'd recommend a bit of Cat Stevens.

    • Owain Moneysaver
    • By Owain Moneysaver 19th Jul 18, 9:28 PM
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    They do if they're watching live TV.

    Can't you put a DVD on, or playback a video from a memory stick?

    And my cat used to love watching Juliet Bravo.
    A kind word lasts a minute, a skelped erse is sair for a day.
    • Cornucopia
    • By Cornucopia 20th Jul 18, 8:50 AM
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    I can't find anything on this. If I use the TV only to keep burglars at bay when I go out, and only the cat is watching, do I need a license?
    Originally posted by monkey74
    From a practical standpoint, if there is no human adult present whilst the TV is in use, then there is no one committing the broad offence of watching/recording TV broadcasts who is also in-scope for prosecution.

    I'm not sure its a defence I'd want to run with, but it would make an entertaining day out in Court.
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    • littleboo
    • By littleboo 20th Jul 18, 9:24 AM
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    Unless the cat switches the TV on and off, then there must be a human present even momentarily.
    • Cornucopia
    • By Cornucopia 20th Jul 18, 9:39 AM
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    Unless the cat switches the TV on and off, then there must be a human present even momentarily.
    Originally posted by littleboo
    Remote power switch and IR sender from a human who is outside the UK.

    If you're going to go to that much trouble, though, I would have thought that Cat Videos on Youtube might be a better choice, for which no TV Licence is required.



    If the UK had a Cat Licence, would it be cheaper for black & white...?

    Last edited by Cornucopia; 20-07-2018 at 9:44 AM.
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    • HWW
    • By HWW 20th Jul 18, 11:12 AM
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    This thread will give the compilers, of the TVL propaganda dept food for thought - for the "Excuses for no TVL" that TVL pay to have published in local papers, all over the UK....


    Does Mrs Slocum's cat, have a licence - by any chance? (The "P" word was censored !)
    • Cornucopia
    • By Cornucopia 20th Jul 18, 11:20 AM
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    ... the "Excuses for no TVL" that TVL pay to have published in local papers, all over the UK....
    Originally posted by HWW
    I'm pretty sure that TVL do not pay to place information in local papers. I'm pretty sure that if it were paid advertising, it would need to be clearly identified as such. What you see is the result of lazy, cheap journalism, and a false sense of public duty.

    Does Mrs Slocum's cat, have a licence - by any chance? (The "P" word was censored !)
    Because MSE is above that kind of cheap innuendo.
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    • tacpot12
    • By tacpot12 20th Jul 18, 2:10 PM
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    The offence committed is receiving the signal in a viewable form. It doesn't matter if no one is watching, the offence is still committed.
    • Cornucopia
    • By Cornucopia 20th Jul 18, 2:18 PM
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    The offence committed is receiving the signal in a viewable form. It doesn't matter if no one is watching, the offence is still committed.
    Originally posted by tacpot12
    You may be right, but since the whole thread is somewhat jokey, I'm not sure we need to worry too much.

    No cats have been harmed (or prosecuted) in the making of this thread.
    Last edited by Cornucopia; 20-07-2018 at 2:34 PM.
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    • Colin_Maybe
    • By Colin_Maybe 20th Jul 18, 4:42 PM
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    I'm surprised @Housemartin hasn't been on frothing at the mouth and spitting out cat fur. He would take the OP seriously.
    • drphila
    • By drphila 20th Jul 18, 8:59 PM
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    This is the trouble with the cats of today. Stuck inside in front of a screen for hours on end when they should be outside in the fresh air
    • Zola.
    • By Zola. 26th Jul 18, 2:46 PM
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    I have a feline the cat licence doesn't cost as much
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