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    • new1234
    • By new1234 9th Aug 18, 12:52 PM
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    Dishonest parking charge UPKC
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    • 9th Aug 18, 12:52 PM
    Dishonest parking charge UPKC 9th Aug 18 at 12:52 PM
    Hi,

    I don't even know where to start with this one but i am really running out of patience and about to have a mental breakdown

    I have been trying to sort this out for the last 2 days and I already know that I have made some mistakes now that I gdiscover your forum and and gone through the newbies post.

    2 days ago I received a letter from Debt recovery Plus demanding payment for unpaid parking charge from UK Parking Control Ltd

    This letter came as a shock as to this date UKPC have failed to notify me that I received a Parking Charge Notice and that I owe them any money.
    The letter from debt collectors says they have tried to contact me previously however they were unable to get a response and now they used their tracking service to establish my new address.

    The parking charge date is 21/03/2018, I moved out of my house in June 2018, in that period of time I had no correspondence from UKPC, I am between house moves now, living in temporary accommodation ( house sell fell through, long story) and will be in my new house hopefully within the next 4 weeks.

    yes I changed the address but this doesn't change the fact that i haven't had any letters from them for 3 months.
    I also spoke to DVLA on 2 occasions and they confirmed that I do not need to change my address on the driving licence in the mean time.

    I have called Debt recovery Plus ( now I know I shouldn't have done ), they told me there is nothing I can do and that I overstayed at the car park for almost 24 hrs!! this is a pure lie, the car was possibly at the same car park ( shop ) 2 consecutive days on separate occasions but it was not left there for almost 2 days, looks like they are faking the parking charges again.

    Then I called the UKPC, i just called the number on their website and it took my though to their sales department, the guy gave me the right number but told me they are only open till 1pm ( and it was after 4pm ), surprise!

    Anyway, today I tried to ring them again - all I get is 'service is closed'. I cant find anything other number for them.
    I have also found some articles and info on this forum that UKPC have been previously suspended by DVLA for faking parking charges, I called DVLA they weren't much help in this instance and told me to seek legal advice from CAB and report the company to the police if I believe that UKPCs actions are a fraud.

    I called BPA who confirmed they were suspended but they are not suspended anymore.
    I called CAB - going to go to a drop in center tomorrow although your forum advises not to but honestly i dont know what to do anymore.

    I spoke to the police - they cant help as this is a civil matter, BMPS no longer exists.

    In the meantime i spoke to Debt Recovery Plus again and requested the photo evidence which they did not want to forward to me, after arguing with them they finally sent it to my email.
    Then within 10 mins I got a phone call from them saying they are now getting their solicitors involved ( even though the letter says i can pay within 2 weeks)

    Now I know how private parking companies work, that you can appeal with a template etc but this is different as I haven't had anything from them before and the parking charge is dishonest.
    The shop is down the road from my house, it was almost 6 months ago, I have no receipts, nothing to confirm I wasnt there overnight. in the morning of the 21st of March I did however go to drop my mum at the airport so there will be a record of me doing that somewhere I would imagine maybe cctv but I don't want to go down that line, I have got enough stress atm as it is and this threatening letter and phone call just took it to another level.

    Please hlep
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 9th Aug 18, 1:04 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:04 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:04 PM
    Do read the NEWBIES thread and for goodness sake
    STOP contacting moron debt collectors, they are
    simply sewer life.

    Read this and never contact DRP again and block
    them on your phone .... don't deal with retards

    Debt Collectors (DRP & ZZPS) What they don't want you to know

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=74633409#post74633409

    DRP must think you are a mug ? Are you a mug ????
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

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    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 9th Aug 18, 1:07 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:07 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:07 PM
    If you have now read the newbies thread why you repeatedly calling the debt collectors and the PPC? Your calls may well have made things harder for you to defend this

    Cab are a waste of time so don't take their advice!

    Spend more time reading up on this in the newbies FAQ thread so you fully understand the game you are now caught up in.

    You do need to make the 'creditor' knows your current and any future address or risk s default ccj registered against you without you knowing anything about it
    Last edited by Quentin; 09-08-2018 at 1:10 PM.
    • new1234
    • By new1234 9th Aug 18, 1:08 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:08 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:08 PM
    Yes I know that now, I wasn't aware of the forum before I contacted them.

    I guess I was desperate, i never had a penny debt in my life so it was a shock for me to receive a letter like this. I am also going though a mortgage application process so I got really worried that this will affect my credit score etc.

    I know it was a mistake but it happened now so I guess I just wanted some advice on what to do next, sorry if this has upset you or annoyed you.
    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 9th Aug 18, 1:12 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:12 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:12 PM
    Not upset or annoyed.

    Just giving you advice which was why you came here!

    Only a ccj against you can affect your loan application. Which is why you were advised to ensure they have your current address at all times

    They have 6 years to start legal proceedings against you
    Last edited by Quentin; 09-08-2018 at 1:15 PM.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 9th Aug 18, 1:15 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:15 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:15 PM
    Yes I know that now, I wasn't aware of the forum before I contacted them.

    I guess I was desperate, i never had a penny debt in my life so it was a shock for me to receive a letter like this. I am also going though a mortgage application process so I got really worried that this will affect my credit score etc.

    I know it was a mistake but it happened now so I guess I just wanted some advice on what to do next, sorry if this has upset you or annoyed you.
    Originally posted by new1234
    So, you are not in debt now, you are the subject of a scam.

    You must understand about credit ratings and CCJ's

    READ THIS
    The CCJ Myth and threats and lies told by debt collectors and PPC's .. EXPOSED

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5849106&highlight=ccj+the+myth

    PS: You have not upset us, we see this every day
    Last edited by beamerguy; 09-08-2018 at 1:17 PM.
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

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    • new1234
    • By new1234 9th Aug 18, 1:30 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:30 PM
    Dishonest parking charge UPKC
    • #7
    • 9th Aug 18, 1:30 PM
    Thanks.

    It makes me feel better, you just get worried I guess if you never had to deal with things like that before.

    What do i do now then?
    I know this thread you quoted above says to ignore them: but I have obviously contacted them now so worried about the fact that I made the whole thing worse.

    I dont appreciate them sending me more and more threatening letters, getting solicitors involved in this whole situation etc

    And I am shocked that the parking charge is fake at the first place! I know they are a scam but at least if you overstayed then you know why you got the charge at the first place ( you still appeal obviously) but I didn't.
    • Castle
    • By Castle 9th Aug 18, 1:31 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:31 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:31 PM
    Hi,
    The parking charge date is 21/03/2018, I moved out of my house in June 2018, in that period of time I had no correspondence from UKPC, I am between house moves now, living in temporary accommodation ( house sell fell through, long story) and will be in my new house hopefully within the next 4 weeks.
    Originally posted by new1234
    UKPC were banned on 22nd March 2018; so you should check with DVLA, if and when UKPC got your details.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 9th Aug 18, 1:36 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:36 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:36 PM
    Thanks.

    It makes me feel better, you just get worried I guess if you never had to deal with things like that before.

    What do i do now then?
    I know this thread you quoted above says to ignore them: but I have obviously contacted them now so worried about the fact that I made the whole thing worse.

    I dont appreciate them sending me more and more threatening letters, getting solicitors involved in this whole situation etc

    And I am shocked that the parking charge is fake at the first place! I know they are a scam but at least if you overstayed then you know why you got the charge at the first place ( you still appeal obviously) but I didn't.
    Originally posted by new1234
    NO, you have not made it worse, just ignore the idiots
    they have ZERO power ....... DON'T TALK TO SCAMMERS

    Just wait to see if UKPC come back to you and then we
    can help you to zap the scammers
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 9th Aug 18, 1:36 PM
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    Sending debt collectors letters and solicitors letters is the norm for this game

    You ignore everything except a lbcca or Court correspondence

    If you get to this, then come back at that time for advice on how to defend this in the FAQ thread
    • new1234
    • By new1234 9th Aug 18, 1:40 PM
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    Thanks, I will do from what you are saying I cant do anything else for now.

    Also I forgot to add that the pics that DR+ plus sent to me literally have got half of my car on them driving in and out unless they parking company has full sizes and DR+ just cropped them or something..

    They know how to raise your blood pressure,dont they!!
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 9th Aug 18, 1:46 PM
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    Thanks, I will do from what you are saying I cant do anything else for now.

    Also I forgot to add that the pics that DR+ plus sent to me literally have got half of my car on them driving in and out unless they parking company has full sizes and DR+ just cropped them or something..

    They know how to raise your blood pressure,dont they!!
    Originally posted by new1234
    They will have got the pictures from UKPC

    UKPC are also known as fraudsters, they fake and doctor
    pictures.

    Stop worrying
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • new1234
    • By new1234 9th Aug 18, 1:57 PM
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    I will try lol
    • twhitehousescat
    • By twhitehousescat 9th Aug 18, 2:29 PM
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    I would say that UKPC have not used the DVLA to get your data , the incident seems to have been over a 24 hr period , and it is possible that UKPC were actually banned from access on the second date

    contact the DVLA again , by email or letter and ask them "who" has accessed your data in the period - say a day before upto a few days ago
    Time pretending I was asleep whilst under his desk , has given me insight to this sordid world
    • new1234
    • By new1234 9th Aug 18, 2:55 PM
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    I have just sent them an email - thanks.

    If they haven't got it from DVLA who else could have given it to them?
    • twhitehousescat
    • By twhitehousescat 9th Aug 18, 4:02 PM
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    I have just sent them an email - thanks.

    If they haven't got it from DVLA who else could have given it to them?
    Originally posted by new1234
    tracing company perhaps ,,,,,,,,,, however this could totally hurt them when the BPA /DVLA find out
    Time pretending I was asleep whilst under his desk , has given me insight to this sordid world
    • new1234
    • By new1234 9th Aug 18, 5:28 PM
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    I've just rang DVLA again and they told me to complete V888 form and send it via post to find out who accesses my data etc so I am going to do that now
    • twhitehousescat
    • By twhitehousescat 9th Aug 18, 5:49 PM
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    no do not do it that way , it will take time and cost you 2.50 , there is a postal address AND A EMAIL ADDRESS to send a letter like this SubjectAccess.Requests@dvla.gsi.gov.uk

    Example Letter

    [Your Address]

    DVLA Vehicle Record Enquiries section

    Longview Road

    Morriston

    Swansea

    SA99 1AJ

    Dear Sirs

    Re: VRM AB12 XYZ

    As the Registered Keeper of the above VRM could you advise who has accessed my personal details with regards to this marque, how often and when did the DVLA send the keeper details out. Please advise the information with regards to events between xx/xx/xx/ and xx/xx/xx.

    I understand there is no charge for this information and look forward to your speedy reply.

    Yours faithfully



    Mr Registered Keeper
    Time pretending I was asleep whilst under his desk , has given me insight to this sordid world
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 9th Aug 18, 6:26 PM
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    Yep, send above email. But DVLA will reply by snail mail. They state around a month to reply, but from my experience it's with you in about a week.
    The fact that I have commented on your thread does not mean I have become your personal adviser. A long list of subsequent questions addressed for my personal attention is unlikely to receive a reply.
    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • new1234
    • By new1234 10th Aug 18, 8:55 AM
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    Thank you.

    I challenged them on the phone yesterday saying i want this info to be sent via email but they said they wont which is obviously a lie

    Ill try your way, thanks again
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