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    • kathleen3737
    • By kathleen3737 9th Aug 18, 12:41 PM
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    Need to prove house sale from 2001?
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    • 9th Aug 18, 12:41 PM
    Need to prove house sale from 2001? 9th Aug 18 at 12:41 PM
    Hi there,

    I moved to Ireland back in 2001, and sold my house in the UK at that time.

    I am now having to apply for carer's allowance to look after my Mum after she had a stroke and I'm being asked to prove the sale of the house.

    Any ideas? I can't even remember the name of the solicitor and the estate agent went bust years ago.

    Is there anything I can purchase from the land registry to show the house was in my name and it was sold?

    Many thanks for your help

    K
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    • theartfullodger
    • By theartfullodger 9th Aug 18, 12:43 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 12:43 PM
    From all your paper records of the transaction, the lead up to that etc etc etc
    • kathleen3737
    • By kathleen3737 9th Aug 18, 12:46 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 12:46 PM
    Sorry, should have been clearer. I have no paper records from 2001, nor any electronic records. I always thought the 7 years was standard for data retention?
    • Mojisola
    • By Mojisola 9th Aug 18, 12:54 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 12:54 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 12:54 PM
    I moved to Ireland back in 2001, and sold my house in the UK at that time.

    I am now having to apply for carer's allowance to look after my Mum after she had a stroke and I'm being asked to prove the sale of the house.
    Originally posted by kathleen3737
    Do you need to prove that you sold the house or just that you aren't the current owner?

    Why are they going back so far for financial information?
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 9th Aug 18, 12:59 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 12:59 PM
    Sorry, should have been clearer. I have no paper records from 2001, nor any electronic records. I always thought the 7 years was standard for data retention?
    Originally posted by kathleen3737

    Well, your experience now seems to prove that isn't the case. I would always keep house sale and purchase records for much longer than that (in fact, I have all of them going back to my first purchase 21 years ago).



    It probably is worth paying 3 to the Land Registry to access their records for the house, which may indeed show that you sold it in 2001.
    • kathleen3737
    • By kathleen3737 9th Aug 18, 1:14 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:14 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:14 PM
    Yes - and looks like I nearly paid 15 for the same information from some setup with exceptionally similar name.... thanks, google ads... NOT.

    I guess they want to know that I don't still own the house? Hopefully the land registry doc will cover it. I'm hoping it will have my name and date of sale?

    Thanks again
    • kathleen3737
    • By kathleen3737 9th Aug 18, 1:19 PM
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    Right - so that doesn't show me on it at all. Just shows the current owners.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks
    • MovingForwards
    • By MovingForwards 9th Aug 18, 1:20 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:20 PM
    There is a request you can make to the land registry for historic deeds. Also have a look on zoopla as it may list the price it sold for.

    Where did the money go from the solicitiors ie your bank after paying any outstanding mortgage/loan? If so, ask for copies of your bank statements for that year.
    • kathleen3737
    • By kathleen3737 9th Aug 18, 1:22 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:22 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:22 PM
    Looks like I can order historical info, but not online.
    • Mojisola
    • By Mojisola 9th Aug 18, 1:33 PM
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    There's no capital restriction on Carer's Allowance -
    www.gov.uk/carers-allowance/eligibility

    Have you asked why they want the information about your house sale?
    • mije1983
    • By mije1983 9th Aug 18, 1:45 PM
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    I guess they want to know that I don't still own the house?
    Originally posted by kathleen3737
    If that is all they want to know, then what you have is fine surely?

    Right - so that doesn't show me on it at all. Just shows the current owners.
    Originally posted by kathleen3737
    If you are unsure specifically what they want, you really need to ask them.


    There's no capital restriction on Carer's Allowance -
    www.gov.uk/carers-allowance/eligibility

    Have you asked why they want the information about your house sale?
    Originally posted by Mojisola
    But the OP lives in Ireland so the rules there may well be different.

    I moved to Ireland back in 2001
    Originally posted by kathleen3737

    • kathleen3737
    • By kathleen3737 9th Aug 18, 1:49 PM
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    I've ordered the historical information which have all I need.

    (bank statements from 2001 not possible I'm afraid)

    I have phoned them and it is confirmation that I don't still own the property.

    Thanks again
    • davidmcn
    • By davidmcn 9th Aug 18, 1:51 PM
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    I guess they want to know that I don't still own the house?
    Originally posted by kathleen3737
    Rather than guessing, why don't you find out exactly what it is they want to know? If you don't have any records, why do they suspect that you owned it in the first place?
    • kathleen3737
    • By kathleen3737 9th Aug 18, 1:55 PM
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    They know because the form asked and I told them. I don't have anything to hide.

    All sorted now - the historical info will have all the information needed.

    Thanks again
    • ACG
    • By ACG 9th Aug 18, 1:57 PM
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    You can put the address in here - https://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices.html - that might show the sale, although it does not show who bought/sold it.

    You could also ask your bank for bank statements from the time. It might take a week or 2 to get them but that would evidence money coming in to your account and who from (ie which solicitors).
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
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    • mije1983
    • By mije1983 9th Aug 18, 2:24 PM
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    I have phoned them and it is confirmation that I don't still own the property.
    Originally posted by kathleen3737

    So why do you need historical information then? Surely the title register that you downloaded from the LR which shows a different owner will suffice?

    • jimbog
    • By jimbog 9th Aug 18, 2:52 PM
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    What about the solicitor you used to sell in 2001? Could they not send you a letter?
    The problem with quotations on the internet is that you can never verify their authenticity - Abraham Lincoln
    • davidmcn
    • By davidmcn 9th Aug 18, 2:56 PM
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    What about the solicitor you used to sell in 2001?
    Originally posted by jimbog
    This is answered in the OP.
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