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    • kerri gt
    • By kerri gt 8th Aug 18, 8:27 PM
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    Recording TV without Sky
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    • 8th Aug 18, 8:27 PM
    Recording TV without Sky 8th Aug 18 at 8:27 PM
    After more years than I care to admit I have just cancelled my Sky TV contract. Costs have continued to creep up over the years and overall we don't watch much except sports on TV.

    So, we're having a pay TV detox - am looking at Now TV passes once Sky lapses to see what we really 'need' in terms of channels and what we simply don't miss.

    However, what I will miss is the Sky recording function - esp to record something when we're out like a movie.

    Is there any way I can still use my old Sky box to record (its an HD+ one) or will that function become unavailable? What other boxes are out there that would do this? I don't (think) I need anything like a Freesat box as NowTV will be streaming and we have a smart TV but it's nice to sometimes record something to watch at another time.
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    • wongataa
    • By wongataa 8th Aug 18, 9:42 PM
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    If you want to record you will need a Freeview/Freesat/Youview PVR box. Once you cancel your Sky subscription you won't be able to use you Sky box to record. You have to pay Sky for that functionality.
    • almillar
    • By almillar 9th Aug 18, 1:29 PM
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    Is there any way I can still use my old Sky box to record (its an HD+ one) or will that function become unavailable?
    No. Part of your subscription is to use the recording features. Once you stop subscribing, you're not allowed to record, or VIEW YOUR RECORDINGS, on the box. You CAN keep paying them the ~10 per month fee to keep it, but this is exactly what you're trying to get away from.

    If you want to directly replace the Sky box, yes, you get a Freesat recorder. If you want the on-demand features, they call it Freetime.

    If you have an aerial and want to use that instead, you could buy a Freeview recorder, or, again, to add on demand (and a very nice interface), Youview.

    In either case, Now TV should be considered as 'Sky on demand' and either of the above devices will do the on demand job better, with the exception of all that lovely Sky content. Just so you're aware, loads of devices can do Now TV, you don't specifically need the box - PS3, Xbox for example. Maybe your Smart TV even has NowTV.
    • HWW
    • By HWW 10th Aug 18, 9:03 AM
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    • 10th Aug 18, 9:03 AM
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    • 10th Aug 18, 9:03 AM
    If you have already cancelled SKY & your white card has had all functions turned off, you are out of luck - it will not record.
    The trick is to cancel your subscription - but first remove your viewing card so it will not pick up any "Turn off" signals.
    Do not insert the card in the box for about 3 months (the time span Sky send the turn off signals). After that when you insert your card, it will initially be "Dead" but will wake up in a day or so, & whilst not decrypting any paid for channels, it should still record any of the "Free" stuff.
    I have 3 of these tricked cards....... Found in Car boot fairs & one in a cash generator shop........
    Last edited by HWW; 10-08-2018 at 9:06 AM.
    • Bigphil1474
    • By Bigphil1474 10th Aug 18, 2:59 PM
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    OP, I have a Youview box from when I was with PlusNet last year. It's essentially a PVR, as in you can programme record, series record etc. and any programmes that are available on catch up services can be accessed via the guide or the apps direct. Humax boxes have a good reputation also.
    I use Now TV, and it works out much cheaper than sky subscription, but you do have to play their game. Get the free trial, and try cancelling regularly to get deals. Doesn't matter if you cancel the subscription, as it is stop/start when you want. For example, last year I had the entertainment pass on a reduced price for 3 months, went to cancel, and on the third 'are you sure you want to cancel' they offered me 4 months at half price. Managed to do that twice.
    I haven't used the new Now boxes, but they may be worth a look if they have a record function. If you haven't got a Now Tv box yet, worth keeping an eye out for ones with free passes, as the passes are usually worth more than the cost of the box. You don't need a box for Now TV if your TV has smart functions or you have a PS4 etc.
    • Inner Zone
    • By Inner Zone 10th Aug 18, 3:11 PM
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    I haven't used the new Now boxes, but they may be worth a look if they have a record function.
    Originally posted by Bigphil1474

    The Smart box has a 30 minute pause function.
    • takman
    • By takman 13th Aug 18, 1:11 PM
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    • 13th Aug 18, 1:11 PM
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    • 13th Aug 18, 1:11 PM
    After more years than I care to admit I have just cancelled my Sky TV contract. Costs have continued to creep up over the years and overall we don't watch much except sports on TV.

    So, we're having a pay TV detox - am looking at Now TV passes once Sky lapses to see what we really 'need' in terms of channels and what we simply don't miss.

    However, what I will miss is the Sky recording function - esp to record something when we're out like a movie.

    Is there any way I can still use my old Sky box to record (its an HD+ one) or will that function become unavailable? What other boxes are out there that would do this? I don't (think) I need anything like a Freesat box as NowTV will be streaming and we have a smart TV but it's nice to sometimes record something to watch at another time.
    Originally posted by kerri gt
    Before you buy anything check to see if your smart TV can record. On a lot of smart TV's you can simply plug a USB storage device into it and record from the freeveiw/freesat EPG.
    • kerri gt
    • By kerri gt 13th Aug 18, 6:46 PM
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    Thanks all for the input - it's been really helpful.

    takman I will definitely check about the TV too - I think it does have USB connectivity so that should likely cover it.

    BigPhil1474 I saw some of the deals with NowTV look great - even full price cinema and entertainment are pretty good esp when you're not tied to a contract.

    HWW thanks for the info on the card, unfortunately too late here as I've already called Sky to cancel. I'll bear that in mind in the future though.
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    • wongataa
    • By wongataa 14th Aug 18, 8:13 AM
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    Before you buy anything check to see if your smart TV can record. On a lot of smart TV's you can simply plug a USB storage device into it and record from the freeveiw/freesat EPG.
    Originally posted by takman
    Some TVs do offer this feature but bear in mind that the recording functionality of televisions will be a lot less that you will get with a PVR.
    • Colin_Maybe
    • By Colin_Maybe 14th Aug 18, 9:35 AM
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    HWW thanks for the info on the card, unfortunately too late here as I've already called Sky to cancel. I'll bear that in mind in the future though.
    Originally posted by kerri gt
    The turn off signal only gets sent on your final day, you'll presumably be on a 30 day countdown at the moment.

    There's no guarantee that this will work BTW but it doesn't cost anything to try.
    • takman
    • By takman 14th Aug 18, 1:07 PM
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    Some TVs do offer this feature but bear in mind that the recording functionality of televisions will be a lot less that you will get with a PVR.
    Originally posted by wongataa
    It all depends on the TV and what you consider to be "a lot less". On my TV you simply press record on the program in the EPG and you get the option of record this episode only or the whole series. You can also pause and resume live TV.

    It doesn't have dual tuners but that's the only advantage a PVR will usually have and you can get a version of this TV with a dual tuner if you wanted.
    • Bigphil1474
    • By Bigphil1474 22nd Aug 18, 1:38 PM
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    takman, I had an external hard drive on my LG tv and it was pretty poor. The single tuner was a pain, and it could never record HD channels properly. On a PVR, it is so much better and easier. The HD is now on my PS4 instead, and I can record 2 channels on the PVR and watch a third through the TV signal.
    • Cornucopia
    • By Cornucopia 22nd Aug 18, 5:19 PM
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    It doesn't have dual tuners but that's the only advantage a PVR will usually have...
    Originally posted by takman
    This question (about ditching Sky or VM and still having recording functions) comes up a lot. So, it's worth clarifying that when comparing a TV-based recording system with one tuner, and a separate PVR, there will always be at least 2 tuners available with the PVR system - the one in the TV and the one or more in the PVR.

    There may be some people whose recording habits are such that they only want to record the channel selected on the TV (perhaps they record whilst they are watching streaming content or Bluray?) But I think that most people will want to the capability to record one TV program whilst watching another and that inevitably means two tuners.
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    • teddysmum
    • By teddysmum 22nd Aug 18, 9:36 PM
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    When cancelling Sky, almost a year ago (and still not missing it) I got out the old Humax box intending to use it for recording.

    However, I haven't found any need for it, as using an Amazon tv Fire stick, which has all the channel1-5 catchups (our Panasonic tv lost ITVHub and All 4 )means I miss very little . The 'stick' also has catchup apps for other channels too, besides access to Youtube, Spotify and other providers like Netflix, Amazon for a fee.
    • kerri gt
    • By kerri gt 22nd Aug 18, 9:42 PM
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    teddysmum I'm looking at a Humax box too - though the amount of stuff we have on the sky planner unwatched makes me question just how much we'll need one.
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