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    • Smellyonion
    • By Smellyonion 8th Aug 18, 3:01 PM
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    Which would you choose as a motorway cruiser?
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    • 8th Aug 18, 3:01 PM
    Which would you choose as a motorway cruiser? 8th Aug 18 at 3:01 PM
    Hi




    I am looking at around 10k for either;


    BMW 320d
    Infinity q50
    Mazda6


    Your experiences?, what would you go for?
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    • prowla
    • By prowla 9th Aug 18, 8:05 AM
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    I'd get one with cruise control and economy settings, maybe even an energy recovery system.
    • Smellyonion
    • By Smellyonion 9th Aug 18, 8:20 AM
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    I used to get 60mpg+ with my 320D on a motorway
    Originally posted by Tom99

    This my dilemma.
    The 320d efficientdynamic offers 60 mpg.
    The Q50 offers 44 mpg
    and the mazda 50mpg.


    Based on real world MPG here


    https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/real-mpg/


    The cost per month, based on 17k miles @ 1.30 a litre is:
    320d: 140
    Q50: 190
    M6: 167


    Question is, is the BMW likely to cost 600 more a year than the Q50 or 324 more than the M6 to maintain? Because that would be the fuel saving.
    • FlameCloud
    • By FlameCloud 9th Aug 18, 8:32 AM
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    You doing 17k miles a year in an actual M6 would cost substantially more than 167 per month
    • Tom99
    • By Tom99 9th Aug 18, 8:46 AM
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    Question is, is the BMW likely to cost 600 more a year than the Q50 or 324 more than the M6 to maintain? Because that would be the fuel saving.
    Originally posted by Smellyonion

    Yes quite possibly. I sold my 320D when it was 6 yrs old because I was worried about future high costs.
    One of the things I had already paid out 400 for was a new boot wiring loom which according to BMW had reached the end of its useful life. Can you believe that, a wiring loom with a life of 5 years!
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 9th Aug 18, 8:52 AM
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    You doing 17k miles a year in an actual M6 would cost substantially more than 167 per month
    Originally posted by FlameCloud
    Have you misread the thread and are thinking M6 means a BMW M6 series vehicle? M6 here means Mazda 6.
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    • NBLondon
    • By NBLondon 9th Aug 18, 9:00 AM
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    Revs are always high (4k) doing 70mph on 6th gear,
    Originally posted by ginashamz
    I'd get that checked.... My far-less exciting Focus sits at 2400 rpm in 6th at 70. I don't know what the MX5 sits at but it doesn't sound any higher.

    As for the OP... Skoda Superb? Not as cool maybe but on a par with the Mazda 6.
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    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 9th Aug 18, 9:04 AM
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    I must admit, I love motorway cruising in my Beamer but my old man owns a Bluemotion 08 VW Passat which is surprisingly nice to drive long distances. Very smooth and super efficient.
    • thescouselander
    • By thescouselander 9th Aug 18, 10:45 AM
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    This my dilemma.
    The 320d efficientdynamic offers 60 mpg.
    The Q50 offers 44 mpg
    and the mazda 50mpg.


    Based on real world MPG here


    https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/real-mpg/


    The cost per month, based on 17k miles @ 1.30 a litre is:
    320d: 140
    Q50: 190
    M6: 167


    Question is, is the BMW likely to cost 600 more a year than the Q50 or 324 more than the M6 to maintain? Because that would be the fuel saving.
    Originally posted by Smellyonion

    Check the service intervals. The Mazda 6 needs to be serviced every year or 12000 miles - I suspect the BMW may go further between services.

    Also with my Mazda 6 I do an intermediate oil change at 6000 miles because I have found the oil condition deteriorates to 0% before the service interval is up. I wouldn't say the Mazda 6 is a cheap car to run.
    Last edited by thescouselander; 09-08-2018 at 10:48 AM.
    • LandyAndy
    • By LandyAndy 9th Aug 18, 11:29 AM
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    I have a Mazda6 Estate, bought new 9 years ago.

    Excellent motorway cruiser. I often did 400-500 miles a day in it and it was extremely comfortable. My wife uses it mostly now and also does lots of motorway miles. Very reliable over the 151,000 miles it has now done. It consistently returns 46-48mpg.

    I haven't driven either of the others but I can recommend the Mazda as a decent choice.
    • ginashamz
    • By ginashamz 9th Aug 18, 11:33 AM
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    I'd get that checked.... My far-less exciting Focus sits at 2400 rpm in 6th at 70. I don't know what the MX5 sits at but it doesn't sound any higher.

    As for the OP... Skoda Superb? Not as cool maybe but on a par with the Mazda 6.
    Originally posted by NBLondon

    I think it does a tad under 4k at 70mph but I know it does 4.2k RPM at 80mph. Its a high revving engine (redlines at nearly 10k RPM) so I don't think there is anything wrong with it. It's not really designed to be a motorway cruiser, but at high speeds it does have excellent stability and the ability to change lanes very quickly than a more conventional car.
    • Smellyonion
    • By Smellyonion 9th Aug 18, 11:46 AM
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    Check the service intervals. The Mazda 6 needs to be serviced every year or 12000 miles - I suspect the BMW may go further between services.

    Also with my Mazda 6 I do an intermediate oil change at 6000 miles because I have found the oil condition deteriorates to 0% before the service interval is up. I wouldn't say the Mazda 6 is a cheap car to run.
    Originally posted by thescouselander
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    that's good point and will check it out. When I bought a Citroen c1 brand new almost 2 years ago now (purely for the cost), I had a choice between a 1.0 and 1.2. For some reason, the 1.2 only requires servicing everything 16k whilst the 1.0 is 10k. Quite strange no? that's a big saving in servicing.


    Its cheap as chips, everything cheap from the tyres to the breaks but it is so unsettled at speeds >65mph and is simply not very comfortable at high speeds. With a new job on the horizon, I don't think I can live with it. There isn't much choice in the saloon class as the supermini class. I will surely check out the skoda too.
    • Herzlos
    • By Herzlos 9th Aug 18, 12:09 PM
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    Question is, is the BMW likely to cost 600 more a year than the Q50 or 324 more than the M6 to maintain? Because that would be the fuel saving.
    Originally posted by Smellyonion

    BMW is likely to cost more in tyres, brakes, consumables, etc than the other 2. You'll also be looking at an older model for the same money.
    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 9th Aug 18, 12:26 PM
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    Don't forget it's not just about cramming features in. It's how those features work and how nice the car is as an experience. Lots of motorway miles means you'll be spending a lot of time in the car. A Daihatsu Sirion has exactly the same features as a VW Polo and costs nowhere near as much, but I know which one I would prefer to be inside everyday.
    • Smellyonion
    • By Smellyonion 9th Aug 18, 12:51 PM
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    I'll probably get shot down for this.

    Would anyone consider an mg 6?

    Theyre available online 16 plates with 15k miles for 7k!

    Real mpg is 56 for the 1.9 diesel and with a 8.9 0-60.

    Would you consider it?
    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 9th Aug 18, 1:36 PM
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    I'll probably get shot down for this.

    Would anyone consider an mg 6?

    Theyre available online 16 plates with 15k miles for 7k!

    Real mpg is 56 for the 1.9 diesel and with a 8.9 0-60.

    Would you consider it?
    Originally posted by Smellyonion
    Absolutely not, but that's just me.
    • almillar
    • By almillar 9th Aug 18, 1:39 PM
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    I'd get that checked.... My far-less exciting Focus sits at 2400 rpm in 6th at 70. I don't know what the MX5 sits at but it doesn't sound any higher.
    I wouldn't. They're talking about an RX8 which goes up to 11,000 RPM. For revs to change at a certain speed, some serious mechanic-ing would need to happen!

    Honda CRV is not a motorway cruiser.

    OP's 3 originals are good. I'd want cruise control, adaptive would be even better, and I'd want comfy seats! The Infiniti must have take most depreciation, so if you want to play that game, it's the winner. But is it not a bit of a rubbish diesel engine?
    • thescouselander
    • By thescouselander 9th Aug 18, 2:15 PM
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    `


    that's good point and will check it out. When I bought a Citroen c1 brand new almost 2 years ago now (purely for the cost), I had a choice between a 1.0 and 1.2. For some reason, the 1.2 only requires servicing everything 16k whilst the 1.0 is 10k. Quite strange no? that's a big saving in servicing.


    Its cheap as chips, everything cheap from the tyres to the breaks but it is so unsettled at speeds >65mph and is simply not very comfortable at high speeds. With a new job on the horizon, I don't think I can live with it. There isn't much choice in the saloon class as the supermini class. I will surely check out the skoda too.
    Originally posted by Smellyonion

    I could do you a good deal on my Mazda 6 - it will only be going to WBAC or similar anyway. The new car arrives end of September.
    • Smellyonion
    • By Smellyonion 9th Aug 18, 2:20 PM
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    I could do you a good deal on my Mazda 6 - it will only be going to WBAC or similar anyway. The new car arrives end of September.
    Originally posted by thescouselander

    Who isn't interested in a good deal, let me know the details and ill let you know.
    • thescouselander
    • By thescouselander 9th Aug 18, 2:29 PM
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    Who isn't interested in a good deal, let me know the details and ill let you know.
    Originally posted by Smellyonion
    I've PM'd you.
    • timbotambo
    • By timbotambo 9th Aug 18, 2:36 PM
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    I used to have a brand new 320d company car and whilst the engine was a belter and you could genuinely get 60+mpg on motorways at 70mph, I found the interior dreadfully drab and cramped. I'd get a 520d if I had the choice.

    By coincidence I also once had a 61 plate Mazda 6 estate, Again good engine just oh so boring, again quite cramped, and sold within 10 months.

    I now have a Volvo V70. Ok still boring but white cream seats on black interior looks lush, huge spec, feels spacious, and it is superb to drive. D4 engine is a peach too. but not as good as the 2.0d BMW engine.
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