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    • Jonah61
    • By Jonah61 8th Aug 18, 6:29 AM
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    Fuel Saving
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    • 8th Aug 18, 6:29 AM
    Fuel Saving 8th Aug 18 at 6:29 AM
    To get the ultimate saving of fuel. As you may know when you take your foot off the accelerator the fuel is shut off and the engine 'brakes' or slows down the car. So the challenge is not to accelerate the car too much so that you need to take your foot off straight away. Really that means 'feathering' the throttle as you travel - ie don't press the accelerator too hard so that you have to take your foot off more or less straight away to slow down because the traffic is slowing. It is easier to do if you allow just a little more of a gap from the car in front and read the traffic better. It takes time to learn how to do this, but it does help your concentration on road awareness. I have found I can get up to 4mpg with my eco-drive Ford focus.
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    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 8th Aug 18, 9:02 AM
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    • 8th Aug 18, 9:02 AM
    To get the ultimate saving of fuel. As you may know when you take your foot off the accelerator the fuel is shut off and the engine 'brakes' or slows down the car. So the challenge is not to accelerate the car too much so that you need to take your foot off straight away. Really that means 'feathering' the throttle as you travel - ie don't press the accelerator too hard so that you have to take your foot off more or less straight away to slow down because the traffic is slowing. It is easier to do if you allow just a little more of a gap from the car in front and read the traffic better. It takes time to learn how to do this, but it does help your concentration on road awareness. I have found I can get up to 4mpg with my eco-drive Ford focus.
    Jonah61
    Originally posted by Jonah61
    4 mpg? Wow, you've really mastered the technique.
    Please forgive the deliberate omission of apostrophes on some posts whilst I await MSE to do something about the daft codes that appear in their place when typing on certain devices.
    • Herzlos
    • By Herzlos 8th Aug 18, 9:14 AM
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    • 8th Aug 18, 9:14 AM
    I assume a 4mpg improvement.


    It's all about anticipation - don't accelerate up to a speed you need to immediately slow back down to, ease off and coast to slow down rather than using brakes - and moderation - accelerate more slowly, drive slightly slower.



    Maintenance is important too - cars in good condition with tyres at the right pressure will be better on fuel. Carrying less junk means (marginally) less weight to move about.
    • MovingForwards
    • By MovingForwards 8th Aug 18, 9:19 AM
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    You know what you could try? Lift you foot off the accelorator, as the engine starts to slow change gear, keep doing that through the gears and it is 'engine braking' saves wear and tear on your brakes!
    • EssexExile
    • By EssexExile 8th Aug 18, 9:51 AM
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    ...keep doing that through the gears and it is 'engine braking' saves wear and tear on your brakes!
    Originally posted by MovingForwards
    And increases wear & tear on your engine & gearbox!
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    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 8th Aug 18, 10:13 AM
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    And increases wear & tear on your engine & gearbox!
    Originally posted by EssexExile
    Which is why the technique was abandoned by professional drivers about half a century ago.
    • Johno100
    • By Johno100 8th Aug 18, 10:15 AM
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    • 8th Aug 18, 10:15 AM
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    • 8th Aug 18, 10:15 AM
    To get the ultimate saving of fuel. As you may know when you take your foot off the accelerator the fuel is shut off and the engine 'brakes' or slows down the car. So the challenge is not to accelerate the car too much so that you need to take your foot off straight away. Really that means 'feathering' the throttle as you travel - ie don't press the accelerator too hard so that you have to take your foot off more or less straight away to slow down because the traffic is slowing. It is easier to do if you allow just a little more of a gap from the car in front and read the traffic better. It takes time to learn how to do this, but it does help your concentration on road awareness. I have found I can get up to 4mpg with my eco-drive Ford focus.
    Jonah61
    Originally posted by Jonah61
    Trust me life really is too short for things like that.
    • Arklight
    • By Arklight 8th Aug 18, 11:03 AM
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    • 8th Aug 18, 11:03 AM
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    • 8th Aug 18, 11:03 AM
    4 mpg? Wow, you've really mastered the technique.
    Originally posted by Aylesbury Duck
    • almillar
    • By almillar 8th Aug 18, 1:48 PM
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    • 8th Aug 18, 1:48 PM
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    • 8th Aug 18, 1:48 PM
    You know what you could try? Lift you foot off the accelorator, as the engine starts to slow change gear, keep doing that through the gears and it is 'engine braking' saves wear and tear on your brakes!
    Don't waste your time - try to pick ONE gear that will give the deceleration required. Every time you use your clutch on the way down, you'll be burning fuel.
    Offset any wear and tear on your engine/clutch/gearbox against the fuel saved.
    • Jackmydad
    • By Jackmydad 8th Aug 18, 2:18 PM
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    Surely "the ultimate saving in fuel" is to not use the car?
    If you do use it, then fuel economy is just good driving technique. No hard acceleration or braking, and anticipation etc.
    "Luck happens where hard work meets opportunity"
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 8th Aug 18, 4:06 PM
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    And increases wear & tear on your engine & gearbox!
    Originally posted by EssexExile
    Nope. Its the way I drive and I've done 100,000 miles driving my current Mondeo and 75000 miles in my previous Mondeo like that. Current Mondeo is on 134k and tows a 26ft caravan up a 1 in 6 hill just fine so I'm assuming the clutch in that is OK. Previous Mondeo I sold with 168k on and the clutch in that was fine too. Gearbox fine in both cases.

    The 44 tonne lorry I drive is designed to slow down like that. It also has downhill descent speed control so uses engine braking to maintain speed when descending hills. Our fleet is on 700,000km and most of the fleet spend at least once a day descending hills for 3 or 4 minutes at a time 100RPM from the redline using engine braking to maintain the speed.

    It isn't the 1970s any more.
    • z1a
    • By z1a 8th Aug 18, 8:04 PM
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    4MPG saving, WOW, get that RTW cruise booked!
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 9th Aug 18, 2:29 AM
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    So the eco focus now does 34mpg instead of 30?

    Care to explain why my car uses less fuel in a lower gear?

    Why can i get excellent fuel economy at an indicated 80mph? Improvement over 60mph in the same gear.

    Seems like you have a lot more to learn.

    Curious... Is this 4mpg saving on a single journey or an average over 10000 miles?
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    • ididntgetwhereiamtoday
    • By ididntgetwhereiamtoday 9th Aug 18, 6:39 AM
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    It is difficult to drive like that because people over take you to fill the gap you have left and you end up having to break to stop at the lights.
    I didn't get where i am today by not reading moneysavingexpert.com
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 9th Aug 18, 11:24 AM
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    OP created a new account with more lies.
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    • cajef
    • By cajef 9th Aug 18, 1:58 PM
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    keep doing that through the gears and it is 'engine braking' saves wear and tear on your brakes!
    Originally posted by MovingForwards
    Brake pads are a lot cheaper than clutches and gearboxes.
    I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 9th Aug 18, 4:18 PM
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    You know what you could try? Lift you foot off the accelorator, as the engine starts to slow change gear, keep doing that through the gears and it is 'engine braking' saves wear and tear on your brakes!
    Originally posted by MovingForwards



    There seem to be an awful lot of people in this thread who have completely missed the obvious irony in your post.
    • jeradon
    • By jeradon 15th Aug 18, 8:22 AM
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    Just be gentle on the gas and brake pedals to improve gas mileage.
    • Merlin139
    • By Merlin139 15th Aug 18, 8:37 AM
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    Just be gentle on the gas and brake pedals to improve gas mileage.
    Originally posted by jeradon
    Gas Mileage? What is gas Mileage?
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    • oldagetraveller
    • By oldagetraveller 15th Aug 18, 10:45 AM
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    Gas Mileage? What is gas Mileage?
    Originally posted by Merlin139

    I've found that it improves with natural compared to the old town gas.
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