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    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 7th Aug 18, 6:28 PM
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    Faulty appliance causing huge electric bills?
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    • 7th Aug 18, 6:28 PM
    Faulty appliance causing huge electric bills? 7th Aug 18 at 6:28 PM
    Hi

    I moved into my first home a couple of months ago. Our energy provider is bulb. The previous owners used the same and they had a gas and electric bill of around 90 per month. They were 4 people. We are 2 and this month i have an electric bill of 142 quid. I asked bulb why that was and they seem to say it could be because of some faulty appliance. How do i figure out what is causing my electric bill to rise so much please? Also, is there a way to check individual appliance/gadget's energy efficiency?

    Thanks
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    • soaround
    • By soaround 8th Aug 18, 11:17 AM
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    I am going to contact bulb today and agree a date with them for meter readings every month (for gas and electric) so i don't get bills on estimates.. Thanks much..
    Originally posted by nvas7407
    Why would you need to do this. Do you have an online account with them? Just log in and put the meter readings in. You seem to be making things very difficult for yourself.
    Just read the meter and let them know the reading.
    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 8th Aug 18, 12:19 PM
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    Does a plugged in but not being used microwave use electricity? How does it do that. I'm genuinely curious (I don't have a microwave).
    Originally posted by soaround
    Although quite negligible apparently, a microwave plugged in also uses energy. So advisable to unplug small appliances when not in use. If you leave the microwave door open and it has the light on, that will use energy as well..
    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 8th Aug 18, 12:21 PM
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    Why would you need to do this. Do you have an online account with them? Just log in and put the meter readings in. You seem to be making things very difficult for yourself.
    Just read the meter and let them know the reading.
    Originally posted by soaround
    quite embarrassed really.. i need to check if i i can login and do that.. just taking control of everything in the house so all of this is quite new to me..
    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 8th Aug 18, 12:49 PM
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    You dont need to agree a date, you just submit the meter readings to them.

    Have a look at what tarrifs they offer as you may not be on one suitable for your needs, also look at what tarrifs are offered by other suppliers.

    Switch everything off when not in use, including lights in rooms you are not using, computers when you go to bed, keep nothing on standby. When items (phones etc) are charged switch the socket off. My OH also unplugs unused / switched off items.

    We just moved into a 2 bed flat with similar set up to you (gas central heating and on demand gas heated water), cooker, hob and shower are electric. My OH showers once/twice a day (I bath) we have used the oven a couple of times and mainly use the hob.

    Our elec usage is about 7 so far in the week we have been here. We have a prepaid meter so can monitor very clearly what we are using (thank you previous tenants/landlord). When the shower was used I checked to see how much money had been used, same with the oven then the hob.

    I know it is a b@llache but maybe monitor your electric usage daily, write the figures down in the morning when you get up and before you go to bed, keep an electric usage diary for a month and you will see where you are using (and paying) unnecessary electric.
    Originally posted by MovingForwards
    Spoke to bulb and they say they have just one tariff and it is the best one. Any pointers on how i can look around to check if there is a better tariff for me?
    • Robin9
    • By Robin9 8th Aug 18, 2:53 PM
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    Put your consumption details into a comparative site - eg the Cheap Energy Club on this site (other sites are available). Use kwh not .

    I am not sure if Bulb charge an exit fee.
    Never pay on an estimated bill
    • Robin9
    • By Robin9 8th Aug 18, 3:02 PM
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    I am confused as to where you recent bill of 142 comes from. From the readings you have given the total cost is about 270. So in April, May, June and (perhaps) August you have been paying something towards this - 270 less 142 is 128 which with 3 DD's is 43 a month (with 4 its 32).

    Is this the case and if so where did the DD figure come from ?
    Never pay on an estimated bill
    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 8th Aug 18, 4:25 PM
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    Put your consumption details into a comparative site - eg the Cheap Energy Club on this site (other sites are available). Use kwh not .

    I am not sure if Bulb charge an exit fee.
    Originally posted by Robin9
    will definitely check this..
    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 8th Aug 18, 4:26 PM
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    I am confused as to where you recent bill of 142 comes from. From the readings you have given the total cost is about 270. So in April, May, June and (perhaps) August you have been paying something towards this - 270 less 142 is 128 which with 3 DD's is 43 a month (with 4 its 32).

    Is this the case and if so where did the DD figure come from ?
    Originally posted by Robin9
    I don't understand this.. what is DD please?
    • JJ Egan
    • By JJ Egan 8th Aug 18, 4:30 PM
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    DD = Direct Debit .
    • CakeCrusader
    • By CakeCrusader 8th Aug 18, 4:39 PM
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    Does a plugged in but not being used microwave use electricity? How does it do that. I'm genuinely curious (I don't have a microwave).
    Originally posted by soaround

    Yup, you'd be surprised. It uses up electricity for the clock, and if the door's open for the light too. I used to live in a house with a card meter and I could see the difference when I unplugged the microwave.



    I did a MSc module in energy efficiency. Here's some tips;


    Batch cook, freeze and microwave, this uses less energy then cooking in a cooker so it's cheaper.



    Dishwashers don't actually use that much energy. It's often more efficient to load a dishwasher then it is to heat water and hand wash. Seriously!



    Unplug gadgets that you aren't using.



    Turn off lights if you're not in the room.



    Old appliances often use more energy then new ones (sorry, this one's really obvious).



    If you put a sheet of card covered in foil behind your radiator it will reflect any heat that would be absorbed into the wall back into the room.



    Don't fill your kettle fully unless you need to.



    My bill's as low as I can get it, I do laugh when I'm asked if I want a smart meter though as there's no point!
    • Boxman
    • By Boxman 8th Aug 18, 4:47 PM
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    Yup, you'd be surprised. It uses up electricity for the clock, and if the door's open for the light too. I used to live in a house with a card meter and I could see the difference when I unplugged the microwave.
    Purely out of curiosity can you quantify that?
    • Robin9
    • By Robin9 8th Aug 18, 4:56 PM
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    nvas7407 - your problem is not what you are being charged for your electricity but how you use it.

    Putting your 6200 units through the CSE you are paying 861 a year - there are cheaper deals out there but not many.

    If you can prune your consumption by only 1000 units you will save far more - 150.. Just spend less time in the showe and switch those lights off.
    Never pay on an estimated bill
    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 8th Aug 18, 5:02 PM
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    nvas7407
    I am confused as to where you recent bill of 142 comes from. From the readings you have given the total cost is about 270. So in April, May, June and (perhaps) August you have been paying something towards this - 270 less 142 is 128 which with 3 DD's is 43 a month (with 4 its 32).

    Is this the case and if so where did the DD figure come from ?
    Originally posted by Robin9
    Hi

    Thanks so much for helping. I appreciate your patience with my silly questions. My DD amount is 95 every month. I just checked online. However, based on my actual they are suggesting my DD payment to be increased to 138 per month..
    • Robin9
    • By Robin9 8th Aug 18, 5:14 PM
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    Hi

    Thanks so much for helping. I appreciate your patience with my silly questions. My DD amount is 95 every month. I just checked online. However, based on my actual they are suggesting my DD payment to be increased to 138 per month..
    Originally posted by nvas7407
    I assume this a combined gas and electric DD ? Does the revised DD get split gas/electric ?

    I think you are learning the hard way in your first home that energy is expensive.
    I see the electric meter has been read - has the gas also been read ?
    Last edited by Robin9; 08-08-2018 at 5:35 PM.
    Never pay on an estimated bill
    • CakeCrusader
    • By CakeCrusader 8th Aug 18, 5:37 PM
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    Purely out of curiosity can you quantify that?
    Originally posted by Boxman

    I don't have a card meter, you're welcome to check it for yourself if you have one.
    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 8th Aug 18, 5:57 PM
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    I assume this a combined gas and electric DD ? Does the revised DD get split gas/electric ?

    I think you are learning the hard way in your first home that energy is expensive.
    I see the electric meter has been read - has the gas also been read ?
    Originally posted by Robin9
    Learning the hard way..

    Looking at the bill they have estimated gas readings and it says its around 20 quid. I don't know why the meter reading guy didn't ask me for gas reading when he came round. Since the gas meter is somewhere outside the property, i assumed it took it and so i gave him the electric. But the bill shows only estimates for gas and no actual readings. I am going to have to find where the gas meter is and take a reading to ensure there are no surprises there. But the DD of 95 is for gas and electric together. And this is what bulb want me to increase owing to my usage.
    • Dangle
    • By Dangle 8th Aug 18, 6:13 PM
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    Don t forget to factor in the overall costs of purchase of a dishwasher. The expensive ones like Miele , AEG etc cost an arm and a leg and Whirlpool and the like will break down the minute the guarantee ends. 100 a year is about right I reckon.
    My friends broke down this year and flooded the kitchen ruining their expensive new floor and has been nothing but trouble. Which magazine have a survey showing the worst and most unreliable machines in the UK, the best ones like Miele were 800, the 300 machines will definitely break down and pack in for good when its motherboard decides to end its life . Just like cheap washing machines they are built to last a set number of hours.
    Last time I used one it took longer to load it than get the few dishes washed up in a minute or two.., for singles and couples they are just something else waiting to come out and bite you with an unexpected big bill. . Depends how slow, lazy and ponderous you are at getting a few dishes rinsed off. Probably useful for families
    Originally posted by Houbara
    We bought our first dishwasher in the eighties and are on our second now. The first was still working when we got rid of it after 20 years, the second is about 20 years old now and there's a bit of rust in the top basket but is otherwise ok.

    Both were manufactured by Bosch and cost 300 - 350, that's under 20 a year for the appliance, electric costs aren't that much, they use less water than hand washing, usually do a better job of cleaning and I spend less than 10p per tablet and not much on salt and rinse aid, and put it on ever other day for a family of four.
    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 8th Aug 18, 6:17 PM
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    We bought our first dishwasher in the eighties and are on our second now. The first was still working when we got rid of it after 20 years, the second is about 20 years old now and there's a bit of rust in the top basket but is otherwise ok.

    Both were manufactured by Bosch and cost 300 - 350, that's under 20 a year for the appliance, electric costs aren't that much, they use less water than hand washing, usually do a better job of cleaning and I spend less than 10p per tablet and not much on salt and rinse aid, and put it on ever other day for a family of four.
    Originally posted by Dangle
    I have been toying with the idea of using vinegar for rinse aid and making eco friendly tablets if possible..
    I use white vinegar as softener in my washing machine already..
    • Robin9
    • By Robin9 8th Aug 18, 6:47 PM
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    I don't use dishwasher tablets at all. Hot water does the trick.
    Never pay on an estimated bill
    • Robin9
    • By Robin9 8th Aug 18, 7:11 PM
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    nvas7407 can I go right back to when you moved in and made contact with Bulb - how was the DD established ? Did someone say that the previous occupiers used 90 a month and the DD was set on that basis? If so I think you are proving the point that people have different lifestyles and standards of comfort and with this goes different costs.
    Never pay on an estimated bill
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