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    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 7th Aug 18, 6:28 PM
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    Faulty appliance causing huge electric bills?
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    • 7th Aug 18, 6:28 PM
    Faulty appliance causing huge electric bills? 7th Aug 18 at 6:28 PM
    Hi

    I moved into my first home a couple of months ago. Our energy provider is bulb. The previous owners used the same and they had a gas and electric bill of around 90 per month. They were 4 people. We are 2 and this month i have an electric bill of 142 quid. I asked bulb why that was and they seem to say it could be because of some faulty appliance. How do i figure out what is causing my electric bill to rise so much please? Also, is there a way to check individual appliance/gadget's energy efficiency?

    Thanks
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    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 7th Aug 18, 8:36 PM
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    Are your lights on all the time, is your microwave plugged in all the time (they eat electricity, try unplugging it and see if that helps). Do you have storage heaters?
    Originally posted by CakeCrusader
    microwave is plugged in all the time.. What sort of light should i get to save energy? I don't think the ones here are LED. All the lights seem very bright.. I was going to change the lights once i finished unpacking..
    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 7th Aug 18, 8:38 PM
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    Are your lights on all the time, is your microwave plugged in all the time (they eat electricity, try unplugging it and see if that helps). Do you have storage heaters?
    Originally posted by CakeCrusader
    Not sure if this is relevant, but i have noticed that very often various bulbs throughout the house just keep blowing and trip the mains. I am getting an electrician to check this..
    • CakeCrusader
    • By CakeCrusader 7th Aug 18, 8:46 PM
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    I'm in a 2 bed terraced, and my elecy is 36 a month (that's my usage). If you keep blowing bulbs there could be a surge somewhere, so it's wise to get that checked. You can use energy saving lightbulbs (but not if you have dimmer switches). Turn lights off if you're not in the room, unplug your microwave, don't leave your TV on standby, unplug appliances if you're not using them and see what happens. If you want to test each socket/appliance/light you can do this individually (you can buy a gadget to do this but it's easy to do without, just watch the numbers on the meter change as they are left switched on, then switch the appliances/lights off one by one and look at the difference.



    Storage heaters are an absolute nightmare and they drain electricity.
    • Savvy_Sue
    • By Savvy_Sue 7th Aug 18, 8:49 PM
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    find a torch. Switch everything off. See if the meter is still increasing its reading. Turn things on one at a time and see when the meter starts racing. That's when you find out what to use sparingly.
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    • molerat
    • By molerat 7th Aug 18, 8:49 PM
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    oh we have electric shower.
    Originally posted by nvas7407
    What are your showering habits ? Those things are power hungry, around 8 to 11 units per hour of use.
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    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 7th Aug 18, 8:50 PM
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    I'm in a 2 bed terraced, and my elecy is 36 a month (that's my usage). If you keep blowing bulbs there could be a surge somewhere, so it's wise to get that checked. You can use energy saving lightbulbs (but not if you have dimmer switches). Turn lights off if you're not in the room, unplug your microwave, don't leave your TV on standby, unplug appliances if you're not using them and see what happens. If you want to test each socket/appliance/light you can do this individually (you can buy a gadget to do this but it's easy to do without, just watch the numbers on the meter change as they are left switched on, then switch the appliances/lights off one by one and look at the difference.



    Storage heaters are an absolute nightmare and they drain electricity.
    Originally posted by CakeCrusader
    i will get the wiring checked out.. Thanks so much..
    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 7th Aug 18, 8:58 PM
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    find a torch. Switch everything off. See if the meter is still increasing its reading. Turn things on one at a time and see when the meter starts racing. That's when you find out what to use sparingly.
    Originally posted by Savvy_Sue
    Thanks.. will check this..
    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 7th Aug 18, 9:00 PM
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    What are your showering habits ? Those things are power hungry, around 8 to 11 units per hour of use.
    Originally posted by molerat
    Both of us shower in the morning before work..
    • Houbara
    • By Houbara 7th Aug 18, 9:04 PM
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    Good advice about the halogen bulbs. They use either 35 or 50 watts and seem to constantly blow. I have switched all mine now to 5 watt Led s. Available now at pretty low prices. even the pound shop ones I ve tried have nt blown yet in over a year.
    Biggest wattage appliance is the electric shower at around 8000 watts an hour. My latest trick for economy is just to switch shower on for around 50 seconds for a good wetting, then switch it off at both the shower and pull plug, do the business for a relaxed 10 minute scrub/shampoo , then simply switch back on again for a final rinse. shower is on for only 1 minute 30 seconds and uses far less water too.
    Dish washers use far to much electricity and for one or two people they don`t make sense both for speed and costs.
    You are still using far too much electricity IMO so should be looking to minimise it and track down the high using appliances. No one should be using tumble dryers in this heat for a few minutes pegging out
    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 7th Aug 18, 9:17 PM
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    Good advice about the halogen bulbs. They use either 35 or 50 watts and seem to constantly blow. I have switched all mine now to 5 watt Led s. Available now at pretty low prices. even the pound shop ones I ve tried have nt blown yet in over a year.
    Biggest wattage appliance is the electric shower at around 8000 watts an hour. My latest trick for economy is just to switch shower on for around 50 seconds for a good wetting, then switch it off at both the shower and pull plug, do the business for a relaxed 10 minute scrub/shampoo , then simply switch back on again for a final rinse. shower is on for only 1 minute 30 seconds and uses far less water too.
    Dish washers use far to much electricity and for one or two people they don`t make sense both for speed and costs.
    You are still using far too much electricity IMO so should be looking to minimise it and track down the high using appliances. No one should be using tumble dryers in this heat for a few minutes pegging out
    Originally posted by Houbara
    agreed. i need to look at my energy consumption. i definitely need to change the bulbs. i do use the dishwasher around once a day. i will start tracking all of these..
    • Cardew
    • By Cardew 7th Aug 18, 10:05 PM
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    Dish washers use far to much electricity and for one or two people they don`t make sense both for speed and costs.
    Originally posted by Houbara

    IMO that is incorrect advice.


    There are plenty of articles that state a fully filled dishwasher is cheaper than washing by hand.


    Indeed for one or two people it makes even more sense to use a dishwasher rather than several washing up 'sessions'.



    Why is speed a factor? It might take a couple of hours for a dishwasher cycle, but you don't have to sit by the appliance
    • Robin9
    • By Robin9 8th Aug 18, 7:06 AM
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    nvas7407 - don't forget your gas in this - that meter needs reading too.

    The end of the month is usually a good time to do this.
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    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 8th Aug 18, 8:48 AM
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    IMO that is incorrect advice.


    There are plenty of articles that state a fully filled dishwasher is cheaper than washing by hand.


    Indeed for one or two people it makes even more sense to use a dishwasher rather than several washing up 'sessions'.



    Why is speed a factor? It might take a couple of hours for a dishwasher cycle, but you don't have to sit by the appliance
    Originally posted by Cardew
    I always run a full dishwasher..
    • Hoof Hearted
    • By Hoof Hearted 8th Aug 18, 8:49 AM
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    Just leaving the tariff for the moment, between 17th April and 7th August you have used 1675 kWh over 80 days. This averages about 21 kWh a day. We use (on average over the past year) about 12 kWh a day for a large detached house (2 people). So I think your consumption is very high and you need to do some detective work.

    Also shop around for the best tariff. We are on 12.06p per kWh (ex VAT) plus 17.14p per day fixed and this was signed up for recently in July.
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    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 8th Aug 18, 8:50 AM
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    nvas7407 - don't forget your gas in this - that meter needs reading too.

    The end of the month is usually a good time to do this.
    Originally posted by Robin9
    I am going to contact bulb today and agree a date with them for meter readings every month (for gas and electric) so i don't get bills on estimates.. Thanks much..
    • MovingForwards
    • By MovingForwards 8th Aug 18, 9:12 AM
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    You dont need to agree a date, you just submit the meter readings to them.

    Have a look at what tarrifs they offer as you may not be on one suitable for your needs, also look at what tarrifs are offered by other suppliers.

    Switch everything off when not in use, including lights in rooms you are not using, computers when you go to bed, keep nothing on standby. When items (phones etc) are charged switch the socket off. My OH also unplugs unused / switched off items.

    We just moved into a 2 bed flat with similar set up to you (gas central heating and on demand gas heated water), cooker, hob and shower are electric. My OH showers once/twice a day (I bath) we have used the oven a couple of times and mainly use the hob.

    Our elec usage is about 7 so far in the week we have been here. We have a prepaid meter so can monitor very clearly what we are using (thank you previous tenants/landlord). When the shower was used I checked to see how much money had been used, same with the oven then the hob.

    I know it is a b@llache but maybe monitor your electric usage daily, write the figures down in the morning when you get up and before you go to bed, keep an electric usage diary for a month and you will see where you are using (and paying) unnecessary electric.
    • Houbara
    • By Houbara 8th Aug 18, 9:12 AM
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    IMO that is incorrect advice.


    There are plenty of articles that state a fully filled dishwasher is cheaper than washing by hand.


    Indeed for one or two people it makes even more sense to use a dishwasher rather than several washing up 'sessions'.



    Why is speed a factor? It might take a couple of hours for a dishwasher cycle, but you don't have to sit by the appliance
    Originally posted by Cardew
    Don t forget to factor in the overall costs of purchase of a dishwasher. The expensive ones like Miele , AEG etc cost an arm and a leg and Whirlpool and the like will break down the minute the guarantee ends. 100 a year is about right I reckon.
    My friends broke down this year and flooded the kitchen ruining their expensive new floor and has been nothing but trouble. Which magazine have a survey showing the worst and most unreliable machines in the UK, the best ones like Miele were 800, the 300 machines will definitely break down and pack in for good when its motherboard decides to end its life . Just like cheap washing machines they are built to last a set number of hours.
    Last time I used one it took longer to load it than get the few dishes washed up in a minute or two.., for singles and couples they are just something else waiting to come out and bite you with an unexpected big bill. . Depends how slow, lazy and ponderous you are at getting a few dishes rinsed off. Probably useful for families
    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 8th Aug 18, 10:11 AM
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    You dont need to agree a date, you just submit the meter readings to them.

    Have a look at what tarrifs they offer as you may not be on one suitable for your needs, also look at what tarrifs are offered by other suppliers.

    Switch everything off when not in use, including lights in rooms you are not using, computers when you go to bed, keep nothing on standby. When items (phones etc) are charged switch the socket off. My OH also unplugs unused / switched off items.

    We just moved into a 2 bed flat with similar set up to you (gas central heating and on demand gas heated water), cooker, hob and shower are electric. My OH showers once/twice a day (I bath) we have used the oven a couple of times and mainly use the hob.

    Our elec usage is about 7 so far in the week we have been here. We have a prepaid meter so can monitor very clearly what we are using (thank you previous tenants/landlord). When the shower was used I checked to see how much money had been used, same with the oven then the hob.

    I know it is a b@llache but maybe monitor your electric usage daily, write the figures down in the morning when you get up and before you go to bed, keep an electric usage diary for a month and you will see where you are using (and paying) unnecessary electric.
    Originally posted by MovingForwards
    This is quite helpful. I will monitor daily activity and usage. I need to figure out what bulbs to use around the house. Dim/dull light increases my depression. Currently the previous owners seem to have used very bright bulbs and i like them. But i need to see if i can move to LED white lights.. I am trying to find how to research lights..
    • nvas7407
    • By nvas7407 8th Aug 18, 10:14 AM
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    Don t forget to factor in the overall costs of purchase of a dishwasher. The expensive ones like Miele , AEG etc cost an arm and a leg and Whirlpool and the like will break down the minute the guarantee ends. 100 a year is about right I reckon.
    My friends broke down this year and flooded the kitchen ruining their expensive new floor and has been nothing but trouble. Which magazine have a survey showing the worst and most unreliable machines in the UK, the best ones like Miele were 800, the 300 machines will definitely break down and pack in for good when its motherboard decides to end its life . Just like cheap washing machines they are built to last a set number of hours.
    Last time I used one it took longer to load it than get the few dishes washed up in a minute or two.., for singles and couples they are just something else waiting to come out and bite you with an unexpected big bill. . Depends how slow, lazy and ponderous you are at getting a few dishes rinsed off. Probably useful for families
    Originally posted by Houbara
    The house already has a dishwasher. I do not think i can manage without one though. I do cook a lot and my style of cooking uses lots of pots and pans. So I use dishwasher roughly once a day. Some days i don't run a dishwasher. As an aside, I am looking to change the kitchen sink and get a deeper sink. The sink we have is quite shallow and washing pots and pans is an absolute nightmare causing more hassle. Most sinks i see in shops seem quite shallow. I am not sure where to find sinks as deep as the ones i find in the US.
    • soaround
    • By soaround 8th Aug 18, 11:14 AM
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    Are your lights on all the time, is your microwave plugged in all the time (they eat electricity, try unplugging it and see if that helps). Do you have storage heaters?
    Originally posted by CakeCrusader
    Does a plugged in but not being used microwave use electricity? How does it do that. I'm genuinely curious (I don't have a microwave).
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