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    • cfw1994
    • By cfw1994 4th Aug 18, 8:41 PM
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    Cheap tough phones
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    • 4th Aug 18, 8:41 PM
    Cheap tough phones 4th Aug 18 at 8:41 PM
    Considering next mobiles for couple of family members, & possibly for me too!

    Currently iPhone 5 users....but less enamoured with Apple these days, so willing to look to Android....as an aside, anyone made the switch, any words of advice?

    Moto G6 looks like the go to for a decent mid-range option (appreciate this is not a tough phone!)

    However, looking at ones like Blackview, who offer some interesting phones like the BV7000 or the tough looking BV5800Pro at prices below 200.
    Anyone had experience of these?

    I have a work iPhone 7 & and not impressed with it, would be interesting to try one: useful for hikes, don!!!8217;t need a chunky otter box style case to protect!

    Thanks!
    Last edited by cfw1994; 04-08-2018 at 10:13 PM.
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    • oldagetraveller
    • By oldagetraveller 5th Aug 18, 3:17 PM
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    Tough enough? I've had mine for over 18 months and it hasn't been wrapped in cotton wool. Still looks and performs like new.



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    • jhiker
    • By jhiker 6th Aug 18, 3:51 PM
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    • 6th Aug 18, 3:51 PM
    Consider Nokia 6.1 - legendary built quality. Gorilla glass at front and the body is a one-piece aluminium machining.
    I've got one on order as I want something a bit bigger than my current iPhone 5S and I refuse to pay silly Apple prices.
    Similar spec to G6+ 4GB/64GB around 170 from TobydealsUK. Comes from Hong Kong.
    • cfw1994
    • By cfw1994 12th Aug 18, 12:09 PM
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    Well, I foolishly went for the BV5800Pro - arrived today, & within an hour or two of use (on wifi only), realised the camera was shocking & the phone far too laggy (scrolling in FB stopped at one point).
    Bah!
    Nokia 6.1 looks interesting....but will probably go for the Moto G6 Amazon special. VERY similar specs to the Nokia.

    Neither fall in to the 'tough/waterproof' category, but that was a desirable, not essential - the essential bit is a phone that will work as you would expect!
    • Guys Dad
    • By Guys Dad 12th Aug 18, 1:52 PM
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    • 12th Aug 18, 1:52 PM
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    • 12th Aug 18, 1:52 PM
    Well, I foolishly went for the BV5800Pro - arrived today, & within an hour or two of use (on wifi only), realised the camera was shocking & the phone far too laggy (scrolling in FB stopped at one point).
    Bah!
    Nokia 6.1 looks interesting....but will probably go for the Moto G6 Amazon special. VERY similar specs to the Nokia.

    Neither fall in to the 'tough/waterproof' category, but that was a desirable, not essential - the essential bit is a phone that will work as you would expect!
    Originally posted by cfw1994
    I have a Moto E4plus. Great phone but...... it seems that many Motos seem to have the same problem of wifi disconnecting. Mine has a contention problem between wifi and bluetooth.

    Sometimes it won't connect to wifi until I switch off bluetooth. It then connects and I can then reconnect bluetooth.

    Here is a specific thread on the G6 https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G6-Moto-G6-Plus-Moto-G6/Moto-G6-Wifi-disconnects-and-reconnects-frequently/td-p/4091752

    But do google "Moto wifi disconnection " or "moto wifi problems" for yourself and make up your own mind. The web is awash with this problem and Moto can't seem to do anything about it. Personally, I find it a pain as I either miss calls when driving as I have bluetooth off or I use up my data because I have forgotten to switch wifi on if it is disconnected.
    • cfw1994
    • By cfw1994 13th Aug 18, 7:41 AM
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    • 13th Aug 18, 7:41 AM
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    Curious. The last one appeared to be specifically an issue with his NetGear router...I suspect there are far more people out there with good experiences than bad!
    Almost a toss-up between the moto G6 & the Nokia 6.1.....
    • Guys Dad
    • By Guys Dad 15th Aug 18, 3:34 PM
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    It is a great phone otherwise and if you are willing to risk the wifi problem, then it could be ok.

    However, as I said, the web is full of complaints and they are ongoing. Here is a 25-page thread on the subject https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/MOTO-E-4th-Gen-MOTO-E-4th-Gen/Moto-E4-wifi-connection-problems/td-p/3956652

    There are loads more.

    Also on this forum here https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5783482&page=2 post #25 onwards

    But now that you have been pre-warned, you can make your own decision and if you do find you encounter the problem, then the many threads have get-around-temporary-fixes posted.

    Moto don't seem to be able to issue a fix yet.
    Last edited by Guys Dad; 15-08-2018 at 3:38 PM.
    • cfw1994
    • By cfw1994 15th Aug 18, 5:14 PM
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    It is a great phone otherwise and if you are willing to risk the wifi problem, then it could be ok.

    However, as I said, the web is full of complaints and they are ongoing. Here is a 25-page thread on the subject https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/MOTO-E-4th-Gen-MOTO-E-4th-Gen/Moto-E4-wifi-connection-problems/td-p/3956652

    There are loads more.

    Also on this forum here https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5783482&page=2 post #25 onwards

    But now that you have been pre-warned, you can make your own decision and if you do find you encounter the problem, then the many threads have get-around-temporary-fixes posted.

    Moto don't seem to be able to issue a fix yet.
    Originally posted by Guys Dad
    Maybe there is a generic issue...although the first link there is talking about the E4, not G6, & the second is referring more to the previous gen 5?

    I guess there are Friday phones just like lemony cars - I bet Moto have sold a shed-load of those - amazon has 190 reviews with 83% 4* or 5* (& only 8% 1 or 2).

    Tricky....what would YOU recommend?
    thx!
    • Guys Dad
    • By Guys Dad 16th Aug 18, 7:55 PM
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    Tricky....what would YOU recommend?
    thx!
    Originally posted by cfw1994
    I was really attracted by the long battery life. It is excellent 15 months on, though, I would have sacrificed some battery life for reliability of wifi.

    There are some good similar priced handsets out there and if I had been prewarned about the MOTO generic fault, I would have gone for another handset instead.

    But you have the advantage of being prewarned and you can decide which way to go.
    • cfw1994
    • By cfw1994 17th Aug 18, 12:19 AM
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    if I had been prewarned about the MOTO generic fault, I would have gone for another handset instead.

    But you have the advantage of being prewarned and you can decide which way to go.
    Originally posted by Guys Dad
    But WHICH handset?!!
    The Nokia 6.1 looks closest mainstream unit...but only via dodgy-sounding websites!!

    Thx
    • Junaid3377
    • By Junaid3377 28th Aug 18, 6:50 PM
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    I am satisfied with my Poptel P9000 Max. it is a unbreakable smartphone.
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