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    • gjs1701
    • By gjs1701 3rd Aug 18, 11:05 PM
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    Basic rate tax at same employer
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    • 3rd Aug 18, 11:05 PM
    Basic rate tax at same employer 3rd Aug 18 at 11:05 PM
    My partner started a job in May. She then took on a second 'job' for the same employer. The second 'job' is actually simply more hours doing the same work.

    Her employer issues two payslips, and the second job is taxed at basic rate.

    This cannot be right, can it, particularly since she doesn't earn enough to pay tax?
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    • p00hsticks
    • By p00hsticks 3rd Aug 18, 11:39 PM
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    • 3rd Aug 18, 11:39 PM
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    • 3rd Aug 18, 11:39 PM
    My partner started a job in May. She then took on a second 'job' for the same employer. The second 'job' is actually simply more hours doing the same work.

    Her employer issues two payslips, and the second job is taxed at basic rate.

    This cannot be right, can it, particularly since she doesn't earn enough to pay tax?
    Originally posted by gjs1701

    Presumably the first job is currently using the tax code for her whole allowance (1185L) so the have to use BR for the second job.


    She needs to get in touch with HMRC and ask for them to split her allowance over two separate codes, one for each job.
    • taylornj
    • By taylornj 4th Aug 18, 8:06 AM
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    • 4th Aug 18, 8:06 AM
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    • 4th Aug 18, 8:06 AM
    If the two jobs are each below the NI threshold 5876pa, she will not earn a NI qualifying year. If the two jobs combined add up to more than 8164pa then the employer is avoiding paying NI contributions by splitting the jobs. A single employer the split payment method is questionable.
    • gjs1701
    • By gjs1701 4th Aug 18, 2:43 PM
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    • 4th Aug 18, 2:43 PM
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    • 4th Aug 18, 2:43 PM
    One exceeds the NI threshold, one doesn't. She is paying NI A on both. One has BR CUMUL as a tax code, one has 1185L CUMUL.
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 4th Aug 18, 3:47 PM
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    • #5
    • 4th Aug 18, 3:47 PM
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    • 4th Aug 18, 3:47 PM
    We need to know how much she earns in each job. If the first job pays less than the personal allowance then she needs to speak to HMRC so that they can split the allowance across both jobs. At the moment the whole allowance is on the first one and her employer is probably correct to use BR on the second.
    • gjs1701
    • By gjs1701 5th Aug 18, 10:00 AM
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    • 5th Aug 18, 10:00 AM
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    • 5th Aug 18, 10:00 AM
    First job 6825 pa, tax code 1185L
    Second 4775 pa, BR tax code

    Both are at the same location, doing the same thing, with the same colleagues, the same line manager, for the same rate of pay and so on.
    Last edited by gjs1701; 05-08-2018 at 10:02 AM.
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 5th Aug 18, 10:07 AM
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    • 5th Aug 18, 10:07 AM
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    • 5th Aug 18, 10:07 AM
    Then she needs to contact HMRC as I suggested, and ask for her personal allowance to be split between the two jobs so that she pays no tax on either. The employer can't do it without being told to.
    • xylophone
    • By xylophone 5th Aug 18, 12:58 PM
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    • 5th Aug 18, 12:58 PM
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    • 5th Aug 18, 12:58 PM
    https://www.gov.uk/personal-tax-account

    https://www.gov.uk/tax-codes/updating-tax-code
    • gjs1701
    • By gjs1701 12th Aug 18, 9:38 AM
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    • #9
    • 12th Aug 18, 9:38 AM
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    • 12th Aug 18, 9:38 AM
    She contacted HMRC, who said they needed a form from work and work hadn't filled in the form. Which comes down to her HR/payroll department, who couldn't organise a !!!!-up in a brewery.
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 12th Aug 18, 4:52 PM
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    xylophone has already told you how it can be done without contacting HMRC.
    • gjs1701
    • By gjs1701 13th Aug 18, 5:22 PM
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    I just trued that. HMRC has a single tax code off 1185L, there is no option to tell HMRC that this is not what the employer is doing.
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