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    • Thomas Holding
    • By Thomas Holding 12th Jul 18, 8:57 AM
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    Paintball guns in hold luggage
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    Paintball guns in hold luggage 12th Jul 18 at 8:57 AM
    Is it possible to take paintball guns in hold luggage to the US (with an internal flight there)?
    Has anyone had any problems?
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    • NoodleDoodleMan
    • By NoodleDoodleMan 12th Jul 18, 9:24 AM
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    You really need to contact the airline(s) concerned for guidance.

    Also, contact the US Embassy in London for the same reason.

    I can't think it'll be straightforward, even if allowed.
    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 12th Jul 18, 10:23 AM
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    It's possible to take firearms so paintball guns themselves shouldn't be a problem with the right paperwork. Compressed gas might be an issue though.

    As said above though, you need to check directly with the airline.
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    • NoodleDoodleMan
    • By NoodleDoodleMan 12th Jul 18, 10:41 PM
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    It's possible to take firearms
    The rules etc. on taking serviceable firearms in hold luggage must be very strict ?

    Official UK government advice confirms that you must contact the airline.

    https://www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/ammunition
    • Thomas Holding
    • By Thomas Holding 13th Jul 18, 1:57 PM
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    The rules etc. on taking serviceable firearms in hold luggage must be very strict ?

    Official UK government advice confirms that you must contact the airline.

    https://www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/ammunition
    Originally posted by NoodleDoodleMan
    That is useful, interestingly paintball guns are not mentioned anywhere
    https://www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/sports-equipment
    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 13th Jul 18, 5:45 PM
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    The rules etc. on taking serviceable firearms in hold luggage must be very strict ?
    Originally posted by NoodleDoodleMan
    Yes, but it's not that uncommon though. They aren't much risk in the hold. Close family members on both sides of my family have taken firearms from the UK to the USA (and back) and on internal US flights with absolutely no problems.

    A friend of mine takes his gun with him all over the place. Chile was his last trip.
    Last edited by Gloomendoom; 13-07-2018 at 8:04 PM.
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    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 13th Jul 18, 5:51 PM
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    That is useful, interestingly paintball guns are not mentioned anywhere
    https://www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/sports-equipment
    Originally posted by Thomas Holding
    I'd still confirm with the airline. You don't want to get pulled from the flight at the airport when your luggage gets checked.
    Last edited by Gloomendoom; 13-07-2018 at 5:54 PM.
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    • NoodleDoodleMan
    • By NoodleDoodleMan 13th Jul 18, 7:09 PM
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    Close family members on both sides of my family have taken firearms from the UK to the USA (and back) and on internal US flights with absolutely no problems.
    I have experience of a smoothbore shotgun being carried in the hold of a domestic flight, but no knowledge of regulations in respect of rifled barrel firearms.

    I'd still confirm with the airline.
    An absolute no brainer - or expect a drama when an undeclared "firearm" is identified by a luggage scan.
    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 13th Jul 18, 8:05 PM
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    I have experience of a smoothbore shotgun being carried in the hold of a domestic flight, but no knowledge of regulations in respect of rifled barrel firearms.
    Originally posted by NoodleDoodleMan
    My friend takes his shotgun. He like shooting things. Apparently, they have a bit of a pigeon problem in Chile.


    from his accounts, a bit less of a pigeon problem since his visit.
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    • NoodleDoodleMan
    • By NoodleDoodleMan 13th Jul 18, 9:26 PM
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    I suspect the rules for moving weapons with rifled barrels will be much stricter, if permitted at all.
    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 14th Jul 18, 12:38 PM
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    I suspect the rules for moving weapons with rifled barrels will be much stricter, if permitted at all.
    Originally posted by NoodleDoodleMan
    No difference. My uncles used to compete in shooting competitions in the US with rifles. My brother-in-law used to compete in clay pigeon shooting competions in the US.

    BA's requirements...

    You must contact us at least 72 hours before your flight to ensure compliance with government embargoes and restrictions for the below items - if you fail to notify us, you will not be able to travel with your equipment:

    firearms of all types, such as pistols, revolvers, rifles and shotguns
    replicas and imitation firearms capable of being mistaken for real weapons
    component parts of firearms, excluding telescopic sights
    compressed air and CO2 guns, such as pistols, pellet guns, rifles and ball-bearing guns
    signal flare pistols and starter pistols
    You can only carry these items in your checked baggage and will need to provide the appropriate licences and documentation for your firearms and ammunition, e.g. export/import licences and authorisation from local and national authorities.

    You'll need to specify:

    the quantity of firearms you wish to transport
    the type (handgun, rifle, shotgun)
    the make/model and calibre
    the quantity (in weight) and calibre of ammunition
    OP it looks like paintball guns would be included too.
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    • worried jim
    • By worried jim 14th Jul 18, 1:05 PM
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    I always thought that the firing bolt had to go in a locked box with the captain.
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    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 14th Jul 18, 2:19 PM
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    I always thought that the firing bolt had to go in a locked box with the captain.
    Originally posted by worried jim
    Not all firearms have a bolt. Packing instructions from BMI...

    The firearm should be unloaded (free of ammunition)

    The firearm must be packed in a hard shell with a label attached

    Ammunition must be packed separately in a box made of wood, metal or fibreboard and secured against movement

    No more than 5kgs of ammunition allowed
    Last edited by Gloomendoom; 14-07-2018 at 2:24 PM.
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    • NoodleDoodleMan
    • By NoodleDoodleMan 14th Jul 18, 3:47 PM
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    Not all firearms have a bolt.
    Unless I'm mistaken, the chances of a civilian owning a semi or fully automatic rifle in the UK are now next to zero.

    The latter are illegal in the US (in theory) so whatever the rules there are must be non applicable ?

    Packing instructions from BMI..
    That applies to UK domestic flights only.
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    • By phatbear 14th Jul 18, 4:37 PM
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    Unless I'm mistaken, the chances of a civilian owning a semi or fully automatic rifle in the UK are now next to zero.
    Originally posted by NoodleDoodleMan
    You are mistaken you can legally hold a .22 rimfire semiauto rifle in the uk


    The latter are illegal in the US (in theory) so whatever the rules there are must be non applicable ?
    Originally posted by NoodleDoodleMan
    Ive always found this odd that americans are so anti messing with the constitution, regarding their right to bear arms, yet they accept that the law makers then dictate what kind of guns they can bear.
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    • phatbear
    • By phatbear 14th Jul 18, 4:42 PM
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    I suspect the rules for moving weapons with rifled barrels will be much stricter, if permitted at all.
    Originally posted by NoodleDoodleMan
    Not stricter at all as long as the right licences are in place they would be treated exactly the same at point of import/export.

    Bottom line is you need to check with your airline.

    For example, i no longer work at an airport that uses ryanair (yet) but back in the day they would not carry guns at all yet easyjet would.

    Despite all this a paint ball gun is not a firearm anyway but ive seen handling ages take very odd things out of peoples bags before now regardless of legislation.
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    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 14th Jul 18, 7:16 PM
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    Unless I'm mistaken, the chances of a civilian owning a semi or fully automatic rifle in the UK are now next to zero.

    The latter are illegal in the US (in theory) so whatever the rules there are must be non applicable ?
    Originally posted by NoodleDoodleMan
    You are very much mistaken. Semi auto .22 rimfire rifles are perfectly legal in the UK. Firearms laws vary from state to state in the US and full auto firearms are legal in some states.

    You could fire one yourself...

    https://machinegunexperience.com

    Shotguns don't have bolts either.

    That applies to UK domestic flights only.
    So? It was a valid example of one airline's requirements to illustrate that bolts do not necessarily have to be removed. If I had spent more than 30 seconds Googling, I dare say I could have come up with a transatlantic carriers requirements... as could you.
    Last edited by Gloomendoom; 14-07-2018 at 7:19 PM.
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    • NoodleDoodleMan
    • By NoodleDoodleMan 14th Jul 18, 8:13 PM
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    You are very much mistaken. Semi auto .22 rimfire rifles are perfectly legal in the UK.
    I wasn't aware of that - thought only bolt action rifles (any calibre) were now legal.

    It's 20 + years since I attended a Firearms Act (1980) lecture and briefing, many changes since.

    That apart, licence applicants presumably have to go through several hoops, more stringent than for a shotgun which is relatively straightforward ?

    As for the US - there is a vast plethora of legislation there, state and federal, and I'm not sure if many have a grasp of anything other than local laws.
    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 14th Jul 18, 8:49 PM
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    I imagine you are correct about the UK firearms cert requirements. I don't have one myself so can't comment. A shotgun certificate is straightforward and won't raise an eyebrow at a country police station.

    Incidentally, there are some firearms that are legal in the UK but banned in parts of the US. 50 calibre rifles, for example. Silencers are also banned in many places in the US but using them is regarded as good manners in the UK.

    .22 semi auto rifles are very popular for pest control.
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    • NoodleDoodleMan
    • By NoodleDoodleMan 14th Jul 18, 11:28 PM
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    A shotgun certificate is straightforward and won't raise an eyebrow at a country police station.
    Not so in Central Scotland Police area - the fallout from the tragic events caused by Thomas Hamilton.
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