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    • PhilE
    • By PhilE 11th Jul 18, 5:47 PM
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    Soundproofing garden fence/wall
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    • 11th Jul 18, 5:47 PM
    Soundproofing garden fence/wall 11th Jul 18 at 5:47 PM
    Have a neighbor who is pounding the garden fence on our shared boundary, with balls.

    Its very loud, can last most of the day during school holidays. The fence is rapidly coming apart and looks pretty bad.

    I'd like to get the fence reinforced, and then place a soundproof barrier to diminish the noise, plus dense vegetation.
    The soundproof barrier could be another wall on my side of the battered fence, with sound insulation. Be better if it were a solid wall, as once they have destroyed their fence they will probably focus on the next barrier.

    Then dense bushes, trees to stop the balls coming over, as they have damaged property and nearly caused injury.

    Any suggestions appreciated regarding the soundproof garden wall.
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    • TheCyclingProgrammer
    • By TheCyclingProgrammer 11th Jul 18, 8:56 PM
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    You!!!8217;re not going to be able to soundproof it.

    Have you thought about talking to your neighbours and asking them to stop?

    Failing that, if it!!!8217;s your fence, remove it and plant a hedge.
    • brightontraveller
    • By brightontraveller 11th Jul 18, 9:56 PM
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    Who and what? hitting golf balls, kicking football,s bouncing softballs, baseball etc
    Most there is nothing you can do to stop noise they can just bounce it on the floor on a piece of wood etc give them a net, As it just sounds like kids playing Learn to ignore it.

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    • loveka
    • By loveka 11th Jul 18, 10:43 PM
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    The only sound proofing you can get (we have the same problem as you) is fencing that is the same as used on motorways. However, I am not sure if it would help with impact noise. Hence we didn't buy it.

    A loud water feature can help. A 6 foot brick wall, as well as a fence, with maybe some bamboo might make a difference. But you would lose space as it would have to be on your side.

    If it is your fence, legally they can't touch it with anything. You could claim the cost of anything they have destroyed.

    I feel your pain. The thud, thud accompanied by very loud screaming really is the pits.
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 11th Jul 18, 11:27 PM
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    Soundproofing won!!!8217;t work in an open space. If it!!!8217;s your fence, grow a dense hedge your side of it and then take the fence down. Kicking a ball against a hedge won!!!8217;t amuse kids for long. You will probably have to stomach it this summer but you might be ready for next year.
    Please forgive the deliberate omission of apostrophes on some posts whilst I await MSE to do something about the daft codes that appear in their place when typing on certain devices.
    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 12th Jul 18, 12:52 AM
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    If the fence is at the stage where it's soon to break .... I'd just use 2-3 horizontal bits of wire .... and grow a prickly bush there. Really prickly .... I might even paint it with jam to attract wasps if they really pee'd me off once that's up.

    Bugga Em.

    Chavs need to be stopped.

    I can't understand why any parent would allow their kid to kick balls against any property boundary fences ... without confiscating the ball and smacking them on the 4rse and sending them to their room.
    Last edited by PasturesNew; 12-07-2018 at 12:54 AM.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 12th Jul 18, 6:06 AM
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    • 12th Jul 18, 6:06 AM
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    • 12th Jul 18, 6:06 AM
    You have had at least one post on this before.

    Soundproofing in open spaces is impossible at the minor works level and growing anything that will deflect balls will take time. Obvious candidates there are eucalyptus and leylandii, but maybe they should have been planted some time ago when you started the last thread on this.

    The problem is that it's likely to be in a residential area with other neighbours, who'd have to suffer any effective auditory retaliation. Otherwise, I'd suggest giving them opera to live with in return....

    What's that? You don't like opera? Well, we all like different things, and kids have always liked kicking balls against whatever's available.
    If you are finding huge gaps between your paragraphs, MSE know about the problem. However, they aren't necessarily doing anything about it. More changes on the way?
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5844460
    • Norman Castle
    • By Norman Castle 12th Jul 18, 9:05 PM
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    • 12th Jul 18, 9:05 PM
    If its your fence replace the panels with plastic netting or chain link fencing on their side cable tied to the posts and something attractive on your side.


    Explain criminal damage to the parents.
    Don't harass a hippie. You'll get bad karma.

    Never trust a newbie with a rtb tale.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 12th Jul 18, 10:00 PM
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    • 12th Jul 18, 10:00 PM
    If its your fence...
    Explain criminal damage to the parents.
    Originally posted by Norman Castle

    "once they have destroyed their fence they will probably focus on the next barrier."
    If you are finding huge gaps between your paragraphs, MSE know about the problem. However, they aren't necessarily doing anything about it. More changes on the way?
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5844460
    • PhilE
    • By PhilE 13th Jul 18, 1:22 PM
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    You have had at least one post on this before.
    Originally posted by Davesnave
    And?

    Its a public forum and I've posted about an issue, as we all do.

    The police have stepped in regarding criminal damage, its the sound issues I'm working on now.
    Last edited by PhilE; 13-07-2018 at 1:41 PM.
    • PhilE
    • By PhilE 13th Jul 18, 1:24 PM
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    Who and what? hitting golf balls, kicking football,s bouncing softballs, baseball etc
    Most there is nothing you can do to stop noise they can just bounce it on the floor on a piece of wood etc give them a net, As it just sounds like kids playing Learn to ignore it.

    (Text removed by MSE Forum Team)
    Originally posted by brightontraveller
    You called me a git before a moderator removed it.

    This isnt the third world, where fences can be kicked down for the pleasure of trashy little chavs. If you think this sort of behavior is ok...
    • spadoosh
    • By spadoosh 13th Jul 18, 1:30 PM
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    http://www.argos.co.uk/product/7596995

    The parents will get the hint and the kid(s) can carry on playing. Cost wise its probably cheaper and more effective than any remedial action you can do on your side.
    Don't be angry!
    • PhilE
    • By PhilE 13th Jul 18, 1:31 PM
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    The only sound proofing you can get (we have the same problem as you) is fencing that is the same as used on motorways. However, I am not sure if it would help with impact noise. Hence we didn't buy it.

    A loud water feature can help. A 6 foot brick wall, as well as a fence, with maybe some bamboo might make a difference. But you would lose space as it would have to be on your side.

    If it is your fence, legally they can't touch it with anything. You could claim the cost of anything they have destroyed.

    I feel your pain. The thud, thud accompanied by very loud screaming really is the pits.
    Originally posted by loveka
    Thank you.
    I'm thinking of plywood on my side of the fence, then rubber sound proofing, then a 6 ft wall. On my side of the wall, trees and dense vegetation. That should help provide some insulation from chav disease.
    Last edited by PhilE; 13-07-2018 at 1:38 PM.
    • PhilE
    • By PhilE 13th Jul 18, 1:34 PM
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    http://www.argos.co.uk/product/7596995

    The parents will get the hint and the kid(s) can carry on playing. Cost wise its probably cheaper and more effective than any remedial action you can do on your side.
    Originally posted by spadoosh
    He has refused to put up a net.

    I did the polite approach a year ago.
    Last edited by PhilE; 13-07-2018 at 1:39 PM.
    • PhilE
    • By PhilE 13th Jul 18, 1:57 PM
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    If the fence is at the stage where it's soon to break .... I'd just use 2-3 horizontal bits of wire .... and grow a prickly bush there. Really prickly .... I might even paint it with jam to attract wasps if they really pee'd me off once that's up.

    Bugga Em.

    Chavs need to be stopped.

    I can't understand why any parent would allow their kid to kick balls against any property boundary fences ... without confiscating the ball and smacking them on the 4rse and sending them to their room.
    Originally posted by PasturesNew
    I agree, we must all make a stand against the chav.

    They used to kick three balls a day over(father and kids), smashed up plants and ornaments, pound the fence and if anyone complains he gets offended. The police have stepped in on that account, and are firmly on my side. They are not impressed by his behavior, and have informed me they will be keeping an eye.

    The noise isn't a criminal matter though, its a statutory nuisance. The council have informed me they will be having a chat with him. But I also want a nice, dense barrier up there. Prickly holly together with fast growing trees could be the way to go.
    • cajef
    • By cajef 13th Jul 18, 2:07 PM
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    If you want really prickly bushes plant a Pyracantha hedge.

    Pyracantha (Firethorn)

    Pyracantha is a fast-growing, evergreen hedging plant with thorns making it an excellent security barrier or screen. It has white flowers in the summer, followed by bright red, yellow or orange berries in the autumn (depending on the variety) making it an attractive ornamental garden hedge. Pyracantha can also been grown against a wall, trellis or fence and is self-supporting.

    Why plant a Pyracantha hedge?

    Thorny branches - excellent for security
    Fast-growing
    Evergreen
    I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 13th Jul 18, 2:55 PM
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    And?

    Its a public forum and I've posted about an issue, as we all do.

    The police have stepped in regarding criminal damage, its the sound issues I'm working on now.
    Originally posted by PhilE

    You say you want trees to deflect the balls, but you needed something like that before, which is why I mentioned it.


    Had you planted trees last autumn, they would be establishing by now, but for your own reasons you didn't. You've lost a year.



    Some trees we planted here in 2014 are now over 15' high. None cost more than a fiver bare-rooted.



    If you just want something prickly for security, then pyracantha, as mentioned above, is good.



    Sound is much more difficult. I persuaded a noisy neighbour to plant leylandii, which deadened the sound in his barren yard considerably, but it was not as effective as having him change his behaviour. Laurel bushes I planted around 2014 are really getting going now, but I'm not sure they will make much difference, no matter how thick they get.
    If you are finding huge gaps between your paragraphs, MSE know about the problem. However, they aren't necessarily doing anything about it. More changes on the way?
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5844460
    • PhilE
    • By PhilE 13th Jul 18, 3:07 PM
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    You say you want trees to deflect the balls, but you needed something like that before, which is why I mentioned it.


    Had you planted trees last autumn, they would be establishing by now, but for your own reasons you didn't. You've lost a year.
    .
    Originally posted by Davesnave
    There was a reason for not planting trees, please don't assume that someone is not taking advice, without knowing their full situation.

    The balls coming over has been minimized by the police having a chat. I'm going to have trees as ball deflectors put up anyway.

    Vegetation wont do much for noise, which is why I'm exploring soundproof fencing, a wall with rubber insulation/plywood.
    • PhilE
    • By PhilE 13th Jul 18, 3:14 PM
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    One thing I may do one day if I'm inclined, based on a video I saw.

    Get a microphone next to the fence plus loudspeakers that plays back all loud noises at high volume, three times. Easy to do on a laptop.

    So every time they bang the fence, they hear the noise they made three times. Then have opera playing constantly, in a 10 second loop.
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