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    • Lewi7
    • By Lewi7 11th Jul 18, 12:30 PM
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    Room Dimensions Help
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    • 11th Jul 18, 12:30 PM
    Room Dimensions Help 11th Jul 18 at 12:30 PM
    Hi

    Just a quick question regarding usual format of room dimensions on Estate Agents websites for rooms with bay windows etc. Will the width and length measurements they quote usually be excluding additions such as bay windows (as they usually only cover a proportion of one wall at that depth rather than the full length) or will they usually be the maximum dimensions including any bay windows etc.?

    Many Thanks,

    Lewis
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    • Pixie5740
    • By Pixie5740 11th Jul 18, 12:36 PM
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    IIRC when I sold my flat with bay windows the bay windows weren't included in the room dimensions.
    • Icarus01
    • By Icarus01 11th Jul 18, 12:40 PM
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    It'll be unobstructed space. Bay windows, fireplaces, recessed wardrobes or whatever else won't be included in room dimensions.
    • westernpromise
    • By westernpromise 11th Jul 18, 12:44 PM
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    It shouldn't include bays but often does IME. Gardens the same.
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    • thelem
    • By thelem 11th Jul 18, 1:36 PM
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    • 11th Jul 18, 1:36 PM
    Some floor plans will include little triangles next to the walls. These show where the dimensions were taken from (assuming the estate agent has put them in the right place).
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    • the_r_sole
    • By the_r_sole 11th Jul 18, 2:09 PM
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    in my experience the dimensions are always taken from the widest/longest points of the room to make it look better written on a plan, if bay windows go to the floor it will include them
    • JuzaMum
    • By JuzaMum 11th Jul 18, 2:15 PM
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    My house was on with two different agents when I bought it. I have both sets of details and the room sizes are very different. One agent measured into the bay windows and alcoves by the chimney breasts and the other didn't.
    I think the best thing is not to believe what estate agents say and look and judge (and measure is necessary) for yourself!
    • Slithery
    • By Slithery 11th Jul 18, 6:32 PM
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    Sometimes inclusive, sometime exclusive.

    It all depends on the agent and the property.
    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 11th Jul 18, 6:34 PM
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    It's hit and miss.... it's also hit and miss if they tell you within the wording.

    In short: any measurements they give are a "guide" and it's up to the buyer to check those measurements if anything's critical.

    By the time you've been in and looked, if you've not whipped out a tape measure then it'd imply that whatever you saw was "good enough".
    • jonnygee2
    • By jonnygee2 11th Jul 18, 6:52 PM
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    These days, everything should be measured according to IPMS - http://www.rics.org/Global/IPMS%20Residential%20Buildings%20Sept%202016.pdf

    According to my understanding of this, Bay Windows would be included in the internal floor surface area, but not in the width/length measurements.

    Older plans will often use different or older standards in terms of what's included/excluded - it depends on when it was measured and who measured it.

    Realistically, for residential property it makes little difference. It's vital for offices because rents are calculated on floor space, so it changes the yields but with residential I think people just normally copy the building plans.
    • Mutton Geoff
    • By Mutton Geoff 11th Jul 18, 9:29 PM
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    I've known agents to open built in wardrobe doors so they can shine their laser measure into the deepest corner of the room.
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    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 12th Jul 18, 8:37 AM
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    I would expect it to say something like "into bay" if the dimensions include such measurements. But you should never rely on EA measurements anyway, even if they are taken correctly there's nothing to say that they will turn our right on the schedule (as proved by the schedule for the house that I now live in).
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