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    • Eveniskey
    • By Eveniskey 10th Jul 18, 11:38 AM
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    Another PCN Thread - Robin Hood
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    • 10th Jul 18, 11:38 AM
    Another PCN Thread - Robin Hood 10th Jul 18 at 11:38 AM
    Hi all,

    The driver of my car spent less than a minute on double-yellow lines in an area just outside Robin Hood Airport with plenty of space around, on a road/at a time where you'll spot another car once every few minutes.
    It just so happened, though, that a traffic control vehicle stopped on the other side of the road right at the same time to take these photos/put this charge through.
    So to clarify, I - as keeper - received a PCN, there was no ticket on the windscreen.
    For what it's worth, the reason for stopping was that the driver was about to join the motorway and there was a warning light on the dashboard. The driver felt that this area was a much safer place to perform a check, rather than on the motorway...

    The PCN has 3 images of the car, stopped, with about 30 seconds duration between photo 1 and 3.

    I've read through the threads here, including the newbie thread, and on Pepipoo but there's a lot to take in and I just want to be sure I'm doing the right thing for my personal situation:

    The idea is to appeal the charge on myparkingcharge.co.uk using the template letter in the newbies thread.
    Can somebody please confirm that this is the correct thing to do?

    My other question is, what should I use as the Reason for my appeal? I don't want that to jeapordise anything but I don't like any of the options given.
    If need be, I can post the list of options I have given to me but for now I'll assume they're known to the experts here.

    Thanks for everything, the people on this forum and the one on Pepipoo are doing great work!
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    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 10th Jul 18, 11:41 AM
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    • 10th Jul 18, 11:41 AM
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    • 10th Jul 18, 11:41 AM
    You are using a template appeal, so don't need to alter it!


    Help us to help you by posting the options you now want advice on
    • Eveniskey
    • By Eveniskey 10th Jul 18, 11:55 AM
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    • #3
    • 10th Jul 18, 11:55 AM
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    • 10th Jul 18, 11:55 AM
    Thanks for your reply, Quentin.

    Here are the options available to me as a drop-down list:

    Valid Ticket:
    Here are 3 options for reasons to do with issues with a valid ticket, but this is not relevant for me

    Contravention did not occur:
    > I did not park for the stated time
    > I did not receive the charge notice on my vehicle
    > I was authorised to park
    > I was not sent the Charge Notice in the post
    > I was stopping to answer a phone call
    > I was stopping to ask for/check directions
    > My vehicle was not in the car park at the time of the contravention
    > There was no signage at the car park/location indicating any restrictions

    Not owner:
    3 options for if I do not own the vehicle/did not at the time

    Stolen:
    2 options relating to stolen vehicle

    Disabled:
    3 options relating to being disabled

    Charge not received:
    > I did not receive the charge notice in the post
    > I was not aware that I incurred a Charge Notice
    > The Charge Notice was not fixed to my vehicle

    Breakdown:
    > I had a flat battery
    > I had a flat tyre
    > I ran out of fuel
    > My vehicle had brokend down and I was waiting for recovery

    Medical:
    four options relating to a medical incident
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 11th Jul 18, 12:44 AM
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    • #4
    • 11th Jul 18, 12:44 AM
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    • 11th Jul 18, 12:44 AM
    Surely there is 'OTHER'?
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Eveniskey
    • By Eveniskey 11th Jul 18, 2:57 AM
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    • #5
    • 11th Jul 18, 2:57 AM
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    • 11th Jul 18, 2:57 AM
    You'd think so but no. I don't want to just put any and that jeopardise my appeal later down the line....
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 11th Jul 18, 8:36 AM
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    • #6
    • 11th Jul 18, 8:36 AM
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    • 11th Jul 18, 8:36 AM
    Does the Notice to Keeper (from VCS, I presume) offer you the opportunity to appeal direct to VCS rather than 'myparkingcharge'?

    That route may provide a workaround for the drop down boxes designed to entrap.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • Eveniskey
    • By Eveniskey 11th Jul 18, 12:25 PM
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    • 11th Jul 18, 12:25 PM
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    • 11th Jul 18, 12:25 PM
    I see nothing on the website stating that I can appeal direct to VCS, though it is from them. It's ridiculous! Absolutely infuriating.

    I'd send an image showing the appeal process on the PCN but as a new user to this forum it won't let me send a link.
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 11th Jul 18, 12:58 PM
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    • #8
    • 11th Jul 18, 12:58 PM
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    • 11th Jul 18, 12:58 PM
    Did you receive a letter through the post from VCS?

    I'd send an image showing the appeal process on the PCN but as a new user to this forum it won't let me send a link.
    HOW TO UPLOAD LINKS TO PHOTOS/SCANS TO MSE

    To upload a photo/scan link, you first need to host it on a free photo hosting site (like Dropbox, Imurg or Tinypic), copy the URL, paste it here, but change the http to hxxp and we'll do the conversion. Newbies can't directly upload links to photos/scans until they've got a few posts under their belt.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • nosferatu1001
    • By nosferatu1001 11th Jul 18, 1:02 PM
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    • 11th Jul 18, 1:02 PM
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    • 11th Jul 18, 1:02 PM
    Or pick the nearest option and then explain in your appeal that you were forced to pick an option that did not apply to the circumstances at the time

    If the driver had a valid reason to stop I would ADD that to the template at this point. Its far more credible. There was nebver any intention to enter into any contract, there cannot BE any contratc as this is a prohibited action No parking is allowed, not you can park for X amount) and BEAVIS cannot apply to a roadway that is likely goverened by byelaws AND / OR the RTEs in any case.
    • Eveniskey
    • By Eveniskey 11th Jul 18, 1:49 PM
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    Did you receive a letter through the post from VCS?
    Originally posted by Umkomaas
    I did yes, there was no ticket on my car, just a letter through the post

    Newbies can't directly upload links to photos/scans until they've got a few posts under their belt.
    That is what's stopping me from sending a link to imgur or uploading an image, I've too few posts at this point, unfortunately.
    • Eveniskey
    • By Eveniskey 11th Jul 18, 1:51 PM
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    Eveniskey
    Or pick the nearest option and then explain in your appeal that you were forced to pick an option that did not apply to the circumstances at the time

    If the driver had a valid reason to stop I would ADD that to the template at this point. Its far more credible. There was nebver any intention to enter into any contract, there cannot BE any contratc as this is a prohibited action No parking is allowed, not you can park for X amount) and BEAVIS cannot apply to a roadway that is likely goverened by byelaws AND / OR the RTEs in any case.
    Originally posted by nosferatu1001
    OK, thanks for your advice here. I've still got a bit of time til I need to make the appeal so I'll see if anybody else offers different advice, or if someone posts about a similar experience, otherwise I'll give this a go.

    Cheers!
    • Le_Kirk
    • By Le_Kirk 11th Jul 18, 3:41 PM
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    That is what's stopping me from sending a link to imgur or uploading an image, I've too few posts at this point, unfortunately.
    Originally posted by Eveniskey
    That is why you were given the advice in the second quote in post #8. When you have your URL such as https://dropbox........ just change it to hxxps://dropbox......... and one of the regulars will make your link live after checking it is safe.
    • Eveniskey
    • By Eveniskey 11th Jul 18, 4:12 PM
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    Eveniskey
    just change it to hxxps://dropbox......... and one of the regulars will make your link live after checking it is safe.
    Originally posted by Le_Kirk
    Ahh so sorry, I didn't read that properly. I've been on the move since about 4am this morning, that's my excuse...

    Here it is then: hxxps://imgur.com/a/ATd0zg6

    Thanks
    • Le_Kirk
    • By Le_Kirk 11th Jul 18, 5:50 PM
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    Here is your link checked and made live: -
    https://imgur.com/a/ATd0zg6
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 11th Jul 18, 11:06 PM
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    Go for:
    The Charge Notice was not fixed to my vehicle
    Which is safe for a rk, and says nothing, really!
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Eveniskey
    • By Eveniskey 13th Jul 18, 11:55 AM
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    Eveniskey
    I have made my appeal using the advice above. Thanks for all your help, I will send updates along the way.

    All the best
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