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    • silvercar
    • By silvercar 9th Jul 18, 9:31 AM
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    How to make my laptop run faster or time to replace
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    • 9th Jul 18, 9:31 AM
    How to make my laptop run faster or time to replace 9th Jul 18 at 9:31 AM
    Not sure if my Toshiba laptop is worth spending money on, or whether I should buy new.

    Current spec (according to CCleaner) is:
    Windows 10 64-bit
    Intel core i3-2330M
    CPU @220GHz
    6.0 GB RAM
    Intel Graphics HD 3000

    Hard drive 600GB (300 on C and 300 on D, both less than 50% full)

    Problem is that the machine is very slow, and has been getting worse over the last few months.

    We have internet speed of over 50MB, so that isn't the issue.

    Any advice gratefully received.

    (First question may be why 64 bit, and the answer is that is what I bought, don't know why, probably a special offer)
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    • greyteam1959
    • By greyteam1959 9th Jul 18, 9:35 AM
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    I presume you have done a the relevant malware etc scans ??
    Sometimes it's simple things that can cause major slowdowns.
    HTH
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 9th Jul 18, 9:38 AM
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    What speed is the hard disk? You'd probably see a big improvement by replacing it with a SSD.
    • onomatopoeia99
    • By onomatopoeia99 9th Jul 18, 9:43 AM
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    • 9th Jul 18, 9:43 AM
    It's the 64 bit version of Windows because the 32 bit version can only address 4GB of memory.

    You can use task manager to check if any part of the system is running at or close to 100%. You haven't stated what you do with it, what sort of demands you place on it. Do you have a couple of tabs open in your browser, or 30? etc etc
    INTP, nerd, libertarian and scifi geek.
    Home is where my books are.
    • EdGasketTheSecond
    • By EdGasketTheSecond 9th Jul 18, 9:51 AM
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    • 9th Jul 18, 9:51 AM
    use msconfig (Run->type in msconfig) to see what is running on the Startup tab and uncheck anything not required.
    • Ant555
    • By Ant555 9th Jul 18, 10:40 AM
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    • 9th Jul 18, 10:40 AM
    I recently managed to speed up a colleagues really S L O W Windows 10 lap top to an acceptable/usable speed by doing the following...

    I think it was downloading updates in the background so I spent almost a whole day just forcing it to search for updates, install, restart, repeat. *whole day= just left on a desk and going back to it occasionally.
    Uninstall the pre-loaded McAfee AV checker that was not being updated as it had expired.
    Download and run free Malware Bytes
    Dowwnload and run free Glary Utilities
    Download and run free Defraggler
    Run Windows defrag

    As it was a similar processor to yours, it didn't fly but it was usable and way better than before I started.

    Hope this helps.
    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 9th Jul 18, 11:55 AM
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    • 9th Jul 18, 11:55 AM
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    • 9th Jul 18, 11:55 AM
    SSD if you haven't got one. Start from there.
    • Debbie Savard
    • By Debbie Savard 9th Jul 18, 12:31 PM
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    • 9th Jul 18, 12:31 PM
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    • 9th Jul 18, 12:31 PM
    It's never going to be a rocketship, but a 512GB SSD would make a heck of an improvement.

    PLus usual advice to remove Norton, Kapersky and similar bloatware and use Windows Defender Security Centre
    • armchaireconomist
    • By armchaireconomist 9th Jul 18, 12:33 PM
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    • 9th Jul 18, 12:33 PM
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    • 9th Jul 18, 12:33 PM
    Spec is perfectly fine for W10. Start in the task manager and see what load is like on CPU/RAM/HDD and go from there.


    If there's nothing of note on it, a full reinstall is always the best solution.


    And to answer your question, it's 64-bit because 32 can only handle 4GB of RAM. You won't (and shouldn't) see many 32-bit machines nowadays. Should've been phased out years ago.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 9th Jul 18, 12:49 PM
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    A full reinstall will help but i'd be sticking in a 500GB SSD and a fresh Win10 install - budget for around 90 or so and keep an eye on HotUKDeals for offer.
    "We have normality. I repeat, we have normality. Anything you still can't cope with is therefore your own problem."
    • silvercar
    • By silvercar 9th Jul 18, 1:10 PM
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    What speed is the hard disk? You'd probably see a big improvement by replacing it with a SSD.
    Originally posted by agrinnall
    Hitachi HTS547564A9E384 (TurboPC EX)

    google suggests that is effective speed 141%, average bench 37.9%

    Rotational speed 5400RPM.

    I have outlook open and run 3-4 tabs in chrome. There is also something running in the background from the HP printer (wireless) as that flashes up on the screen in a DOS window occasionally.

    I have Avira as the virus checker, mcafee was removed ages ago. Also Avast icons on the desktop - is that part of avira.

    Thanks for all your advice. The problem is that I am sometimes typing characters ahead in chrome waiting for it to catch up. Then wait eons for the page to refresh. I often get the "not responding" greyed out view until a page updates.

    Task manager tells me that disk is at 99%.

    4 apps running.

    93 background processes. (I can see dropbox, icloud, turbo PC, microsoft windows...)
    86 windows processes. (most are "service host...")


    Thanks for your help.
    • neilmcl
    • By neilmcl 9th Jul 18, 1:11 PM
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    This'll probably fit the bill - https://www.ebuyer.com/822478-crucial-mx500-500gb-ssd-ebuyer-ct500mx500ssd1
    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 9th Jul 18, 1:24 PM
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    That's a bargain. Might order one now.
    • armchaireconomist
    • By armchaireconomist 9th Jul 18, 2:26 PM
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    Stoke, 99% usage should not be achieved by 3 or 4 Chrome tabs being open. This is a common fault with W10, can be caused by a myriad of issues (more prominently in upgrades as opposed to fresh installs)
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 9th Jul 18, 2:57 PM
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    As already mentioned change the hard drive for a SSD. Mechanical hard drives are a serious bottleneck.
    • Debbie Savard
    • By Debbie Savard 9th Jul 18, 6:28 PM
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    >Task manager tells me that disk is at 99%.<

    Oh dear, sounds like a sad machine.
    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 9th Jul 18, 7:16 PM
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    Stoke, 99% usage should not be achieved by 3 or 4 Chrome tabs being open. This is a common fault with W10, can be caused by a myriad of issues (more prominently in upgrades as opposed to fresh installs)
    Originally posted by armchaireconomist
    But it's a worthwhile upgrade.
    • onomatopoeia99
    • By onomatopoeia99 10th Jul 18, 8:20 AM
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    Task manager tells me that disk is at 99%.
    Originally posted by silvercar
    You need to get to the bottom of that. HDD upgrades etc are just sticking plaster, the underlying problem needs to be found.
    INTP, nerd, libertarian and scifi geek.
    Home is where my books are.
    • grumpycrab
    • By grumpycrab 10th Jul 18, 9:08 AM
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    Task manager tells me that disk is at 99%...
    93 background processes. (I can see dropbox, icloud, turbo PC, microsoft windows...)
    Originally posted by silvercar
    Click on Disk column heading to find out what is using that disk. May be doing a Window Update.
    2 options :- a reinstall (refresh with "keep data and keep apps") or find out what's causing the issue. Start by uninstalling Avira; what is "turbo PC"? Remove all "tools" you have installed to make the computer to run faster.
    Then look at an SSD (best to clean install) but try and find out what's going on first.
    If you put your general location in your Profile, somebody here may be able to come and help you.
    • George Michael
    • By George Michael 10th Jul 18, 10:18 AM
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    That's a bargain. Might order one now.
    Originally posted by Stoke
    If it was me, I would order from Amazon instead.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-MX500-CT500MX500SSD1-Internal-NAND/dp/B0784SLQM6/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1531213937&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=Crucial+MX500+500G

    Same price but after reading about ebuyer often giving reduced refunds for faulty goods (even if claiming on the manufacturers warranty), I wouldn't buy from them.
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