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    • JoeEngland
    • By JoeEngland 7th Jul 18, 3:17 PM
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    Good locations for cheaper houses
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    • 7th Jul 18, 3:17 PM
    Good locations for cheaper houses 7th Jul 18 at 3:17 PM
    We're planning to give up work in a couple of years then move to somewhere cheaper to free up some cash from sale of the house. We'll be hoping to get a 3/4 bedroom detached house for around 230-270k in a nice semi-rural area. On our radar so far are Anglesey and some towns inland near Skegness. Any recommendations for other places to consider? We probably wouldn't go much further north than Skegness.
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    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 9th Jul 18, 12:33 PM
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    It's possible to get hilly landscape and flat water meadow environments quite close together in Somerset, though 'proper' seaside is more tricky if added into the mix.

    I'd just add caution about some of the well-priced properties now coming to market on the Levels, where owners are probably hoping people won't remember the flooding in 2014.
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    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 9th Jul 18, 12:42 PM
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    You can keep the coast, whichever bit of it.
    Originally posted by Smodlet
    Coast usually comes with some problems, like too many holiday lets, or too many people at peak times and sometimes the 'wrong' sort of people. (No, I'm not going there!)

    There's also the question of "Which coast?" because something Atlantic-facing is going to feel quite different from a sheltered cove on the South Coast.


    People have been known to exclaim, "I didn't realise how windy it would be!" which is another way of saying " I switched-off during those grossly boring geography lessons."
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    • Februarycat
    • By Februarycat 9th Jul 18, 1:09 PM
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    I'm in Lincolnshire, I would say Mablethorpe and Chapel St Leonards are nicer than Skeggy if you want the coast.
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    • RubyHouse
    • By RubyHouse 9th Jul 18, 1:40 PM
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    For living by the sea, the Yorkshire coast has some of the most beautiful beaches in the country, some are in the North York Moors or very close by check out Saltburn (although a lot further North than you were expecting, it was named amongst the best places to live by the Sunday Times).
    Also check, Robin Hoods Bay, Whitby etc.

    I would advise to look for places that have a community as there is more likely to be things going on that help you pass the time, rather and just looking for the closest shops.

    I am a big advocate for the North East, yes I count the Yorkshire Coast in this as the house prices are amongst the cheapest in the country, we are surrounded by beautiful countryside and the beach is so close by.
    • Smodlet
    • By Smodlet 9th Jul 18, 1:49 PM
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    Coast usually comes with some problems, like too many holiday lets, or too many people at peak times and sometimes the 'wrong' sort of people. (No, I'm not going there!)

    There's also the question of "Which coast?" because something Atlantic-facing is going to feel quite different from a sheltered cove on the South Coast.


    People have been known to exclaim, "I didn't realise how windy it would be!" which is another way of saying " I switched-off during those grossly boring geography lessons."
    Originally posted by Davesnave
    I liked geography, I got an "A" grade, me. And I did not need one geography lesson to tell me I hate coast. It is all too windy, too sandy, too smelly, too rubbish soil and too prone to disappearing into the depths for me. Not that this has anything to do with the OP but I didn't start it.
    What is this life if, sweet wordsmith, we have no time to take the pith?
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    • Red-Squirrel
    • By Red-Squirrel 9th Jul 18, 3:55 PM
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    Agrinnall may have meant something different - but I'd hazard a guess it's down to Anglesey is one of the "strongholds" of the Welsh language. Those parts of the country can feel like being in a different country - and some people will tell you you are in a different country.
    Originally posted by moneyistooshorttomention
    Once again, Wales and England ARE two different countries.

    Anglesey is perfectly nice as long as you don't need a job or any specialist medical care.

    One of the nicest coastal areas I've been to was around Spurn point on the Humber Estuary, although that was a fair few years ago.
    • bertiewhite
    • By bertiewhite 9th Jul 18, 3:58 PM
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    I've lived in both Lincs (on the foot of the South Wolds) and West Wales. Both pleasant, both similar house prices and both hilly - why does everyone assume Lincolnshire is billiard table flat? It's a large county you know.
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 9th Jul 18, 5:25 PM
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    Not going to offer any suggestions but research the places you are considering in all seasons,not just based on a weekend away during spring or a 2 week stay in august...what about a chilly November or a snowy December too.


    I personally have found that some of the welsh areas are rather stunning its easy to see when you delve a little deeper that some of the communities do not always welcome new residents to the area. You may live there and be tolerated but to some you will never be welsh

    Its a personal viewpoint from someone who has a welsh parent but even I know I'm never going to be considered to fit into a true welsh community.
    I've not made my comment in relation to Anglesey per se more based on some of the valley areas.
    Originally posted by need an answer
    Definitely research in all seasons. There is an area near me that is definitely stunning/I'm used to people just sitting gawping at it (including me) - and then the winter comes......(with its rain and its howling winds blowing directly straight at said stunning area). Then the following spring comes - and some recently-bought houses there go straight back on the market for sale. Me - I sit there with my refreshments I want and "enjoy the view" and then come back to my rather more sheltered house.

    Also - I spent some time today sitting there just gawping at another stunning area - but I wouldnt live there (because I know it's prone to flooding).

    Re the "fitting in" and local newspaper articles aren't that infrequent re "Planning permission sought for this house in that spot" and whether it's given or no can depend on who is asking for it I've seen a few where I know I wouldn't get planning permission for instance - but the exact same property in the exact same location has got planning permission because they were "5th generation welsh-speaking local" person asking for it and implying they'd leave the area (no they wouldnt!) if they didnt get it #wrongwrongwrong. It's really wierd to sometimes see someone "sticking up for another person that is clearly 'in the wrong' " - rather than looking at things objectively/fairly.
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    • Smodlet
    • By Smodlet 9th Jul 18, 5:49 PM
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    I've lived in both Lincs (on the foot of the South Wolds) and West Wales. Both pleasant, both similar house prices and both hilly - why does everyone assume Lincolnshire is billiard table flat? It's a large county you know.
    Originally posted by bertiewhite
    Not sure at whom that was directed, bertiewhite but, if at me, I was actually referring to N. Cambs... And very, very S. Lincs, where my sister lives, which is all of 7 miles from where we used to live, in N. Cambs.

    OH loves the Wolds and has stayed there many times. He has to climb a large hill to be able to call me because there is no signal in the dip where his friends live. Is Lincs not the longest county in England?
    What is this life if, sweet wordsmith, we have no time to take the pith?
    Every stew starts with the first onion.
    I took it upon myself to investigate a trifle; it had custard, jelly, soggy sponge things...
    • JoeEngland
    • By JoeEngland 9th Jul 18, 6:59 PM
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    Not going to offer any suggestions but research the places you are considering in all seasons,not just based on a weekend away during spring or a 2 week stay in august...what about a chilly November or a snowy December too.


    I personally have found that some of the welsh areas are rather stunning its easy to see when you delve a little deeper that some of the communities do not always welcome new residents to the area. You may live there and be tolerated but to some you will never be welsh

    Its a personal viewpoint from someone who has a welsh parent but even I know I'm never going to be considered to fit into a true welsh community.
    I've not made my comment in relation to Anglesey per se more based on some of the valley areas.
    Originally posted by need an answer
    I'd be happy not being considered Welsh as long as they aren't hostile. The only place in Wales I ever had an issue was Tregaron, a local asked if I was English in the kind of way that made me a tad concerned for my safety.
    • Smodlet
    • By Smodlet 9th Jul 18, 7:09 PM
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    Have you guys read some of Money's posts? She comes across as a latter day Mary Kingsley.

    Admittedly, I have only ever spent one week end in Wales and that was in the relatively tame (?) touristy, anyway Llandudno. I have never been so cold for so long in my life since I was a child. I remember you could not buy a drink in a pub unless you were staying there... Is it a cross between Norway and the Appalachians? Humour alert, Scorpy!
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    What is this life if, sweet wordsmith, we have no time to take the pith?
    Every stew starts with the first onion.
    I took it upon myself to investigate a trifle; it had custard, jelly, soggy sponge things...
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 9th Jul 18, 7:27 PM
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    Smodlet - now you never know who I might have been in a previous life

    #is not joking

    - and is keeping a (totally private to me only) journal .....which might form the basis of a novel one day...

    There's two occasions in my life where I've "never been so cold" - demonstrating at Greenham Common some years back and when I nearly died/had died?
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    • Smodlet
    • By Smodlet 9th Jul 18, 7:30 PM
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    Smodlet - now you never know who I might have been in a previous life

    #is not joking

    - and is keeping a (totally private to me only) journal .....which might form the basis of a novel one day...

    There's two occasions in my life where I've "never been so cold" - demonstrating at Greenham Common some years back and when I nearly died/had died?
    Originally posted by moneyistooshorttomention


    You had not edited your post before I posted the rotfls. If you ever publish your book, I hope I get a chance to read it, Money... Please don't take too long.
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    What is this life if, sweet wordsmith, we have no time to take the pith?
    Every stew starts with the first onion.
    I took it upon myself to investigate a trifle; it had custard, jelly, soggy sponge things...
    • bertiewhite
    • By bertiewhite 10th Jul 18, 8:20 AM
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    Not sure at whom that was directed,
    Originally posted by Smodlet
    Nobody in particular Smodlet, I'm sorry if it came across as that.

    I'm moving back to Lincolnshire soon and absolutely everybody that I've spoken to has made comments which include the words "flat, boring & in-bred". I find the last comment quite ironic given some of the villages near me at the moment
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 10th Jul 18, 10:30 AM
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    The incomer thing could be levelled at where I live too, because I'm in the non-tourist part of our county where life is very similar to the way it was 50 years ago. There are certainly people who regard us incomers as inferior, but you can probably imagine the sort of people they are.....


    The added complication in many parts of Wales is 'the language issue.'



    I suspect that otherwise the two places are quite similar. The vast majority of people here get on fine, most locals recognising that the incomers, being such a large proportion of the population, are vital to the life of the community and play active parts in it.


    Most people come here from elsewhere because they like the area as it is, not because they want to alter it. Those who thought they'd like it, but then find it's 'not for them,' soon leave, without making much impact.
    A garden is never so good as it will be next year....
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 10th Jul 18, 2:16 PM
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    I think it's the case in many more remote areas throughout the country Dave that incomers compose a large part of the "people that get things done" (ie start up social activities etc).

    There is an element (that probably applies across the country?) of some incomers becoming "more local than the locals". I'm guessing it's a form of "fitting in"? Same as converts to a particular church tend to become more zealous than those born into the church?? (well I know that certainly applied to many of the "converts" to a church I was in many years back). I think possibly part of it is trying to "buy acceptance" too????

    I know one of the things I find hardest to get my head round (and I don't know if that applies to most smaller communities throughout the country) is just how many people are related to each other/have grown up with each other. Where I'm from we're darn nearly all of us "strangers" to each other - from elsewhere in the country/elsewhere in the world even. So that's quite an eye-opener and I do still have a very strong preference for people being "strangers" to each other initially - as I believe that makes for more objective thinking (rather than biased-to-a-relative or the like thinking).
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    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 10th Jul 18, 2:32 PM
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    Here, there are many locals who also 'get things done,' but with many of the incomers being active, early retired, they've probably more free time than those whose first priority is earning a living.
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    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 10th Jul 18, 3:14 PM
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    Probably so - ie the active early retired Dave.

    There is rather a distinct division in some parts of Wales though imo. Distinctively "Welsh" type activities (eg Eisteddfod, etc type activities) seem to be run by "locals" afaik. Though I've had very little contact with that side of things - for obvious reasons (ie they're in Welsh).

    The more "standard" type activities are in English and the majority of the people at them tend to be English. Within that - there are times where one can tell those incomers that have been here longer (ie taken for granted that everything will be in English - so everyone can understand/take part/because it's the same country) and "newer" incomers and they often are also pushing for at least "main words" to be translated into Welsh/describing Wales as a "different country" etc etc (ie the "more local than the locals" thing).

    I've heard positive ear-blasts in the "back to it all being Britain/everything in English" way of thinking from some more "established" incomers.

    I guess it got summed-up by a "shall be nameless - but OMG blogger" here that makes sure to write everything in English - just so that we can all understand just how much he is having a go at us and one of his posts a bit back was along the lines of "**** hippies moving here in the 1970s's and taking it that they had 'moved to the country' - rather than 'moving to a different country'. (errr...I've got news for him - it's not just those who moved here in the 1970s....) Well - it made a change from his ranting at English retirees moving here (which is what much of his usual ranting is about)...

    EDIT; Not forgetting incomer retirees possibly?/probably? have a lot more free time we're looking to use - because smaller areas (well - certainly this one) are MUCH more family-centred than I've ever come across before. With that - we are the ones that probably have more time - because our families are back in England and hence we visit back there as frequently as we can - but we're not involved with family on a daily/weekly basis (because they're often not here with us) - and hence looking for things to do more.
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    • lincroft1710
    • By lincroft1710 10th Jul 18, 3:23 PM
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    I'm moving back to Lincolnshire soon and absolutely everybody that I've spoken to has made comments which include the words "flat, boring & in-bred". I find the last comment quite ironic given some of the villages near me at the moment
    Originally posted by bertiewhite
    I was born and grew up in a small Lincolnshire town (my parents were "incomers"). You had to be very careful gossiping about people in case the person you were talking to was the person you were talking about's cousin!
    • MysteryMe
    • By MysteryMe 10th Jul 18, 3:56 PM
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    Why do some on here assume that rolling hills / mountains are everyone's ideal?

    I love the remoteness, the far horizons, and the bleakness at certain times of year to be found in the fens and coastal flats. There is a large variety of wildlife, flora and fauna to be enjoyed all year round.

    There is nothing boring about such a landscape, it's the people with such an lack of imagination and appreciation that is the boring element.
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