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    • buglawton
    • By buglawton 7th Jul 18, 9:23 AM
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    Technology that you avoid
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    • 7th Jul 18, 9:23 AM
    Technology that you avoid 7th Jul 18 at 9:23 AM
    I have a list of things Ive so far intuitively dodged. The list might shorten 10 years after the manufacturers show they truly understand the issues.

    My list

    Smart meters
    Keyless cars
    Smart home control
    Smart TVs (streaming boxes are fine)
    Phones without earphone socket
    Solar panels

    Anyone else got a list?
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    • Nebulous2
    • By Nebulous2 7th Jul 18, 3:46 PM
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    Smart meters annoy me because of their loss of functionality when you switch.

    I don't want Alexa or her peers.

    I rarely watch TV, so don't want a smart one, we have a dish and a humax box and I don't get any complaints about what it does and doesn't do.

    I do have hive, heating control and while it's a bit gimmicky I like it.

    I'm looking to add a live-streaming camera into the mix, I just can't make up my mind whether internal / external or doorbell.

    I'm awaiting a new set of intelligent cycle lights which I bought on kickstarter.

    I really like banking apps, with about 6 of them on my phone.

    So I pick and mix. I buy something I want and see a use for, which isn't extortionate and which has shown it works.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 7th Jul 18, 3:50 PM
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    What for though, just gaming? It's a classic example really: in the 1990s you saw people wearing VR headsets waving their arms around on TV and we were told it was the future. Fast-forward 20 years and exactly the same views of people wearing VR headsets waving their arms around. In 20 years they hadn't found a use for it. (And they make you barf.)
    Originally posted by coffeehound
    You could argue that about TVs - 20 years ago we were sitting around watching a screen and here we are 20 years later sitting watching a screen, so applying your logic nothing has changed?
    "We have normality. I repeat, we have normality. Anything you still can't cope with is therefore your own problem."
    • Blackbeard of Perranporth
    • By Blackbeard of Perranporth 7th Jul 18, 3:54 PM
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    I avoid twits!
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    • coffeehound
    • By coffeehound 7th Jul 18, 3:57 PM
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    You could argue that about TVs - 20 years ago we were sitting around watching a screen and here we are 20 years later sitting watching a screen, so applying your logic nothing has changed?
    Originally posted by motorguy
    Yeah but sitting around watching TV is what they are for. AFAIK there was no practical use for VR headsets between the '90s and the 2010s.

    As far as TV goes, HD is worth having. 3D died on its erse. Some things are worth having, others, not.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 7th Jul 18, 3:57 PM
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    I avoid twits!
    Originally posted by Blackbeard of Perranporth
    Likewise!

    I use technology to help me avoid the general public :-
    • online shopping
    • supermarket home delivery
    • online entertainment
    • apps that mean you dont have to go to people (banking, holidays, etc)
    • chat functionality on websites
    "We have normality. I repeat, we have normality. Anything you still can't cope with is therefore your own problem."
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 7th Jul 18, 4:05 PM
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    Yeah but sitting around watching TV is what they are for. AFAIK there was no practical use for VR headsets between the '90s and the 2010s.

    As far as TV goes, HD is worth having. 3D died on its erse. Some things are worth having, others, not.
    Originally posted by coffeehound
    VR is an interface - often just a different / better way of doing what can already be done. What you can do with it is down to the technology.

    And a lot more has happened in 20 years with TVs :-
    • LCD Screens
    • TVs are much bigger
    • SMART TVs - giving you apps instead of having to pretty much rely on an expensive cable / SKY box.
    • Optical sound output
    • Soundbars
    • HDMI connectivity
    • 4K

    And likewise VR technology has improved greatly over the same time - the Oculus Go being the latest incarnation of that and the first to offer standalone capability with decent, usable performance at an (almost) buy it now price.

    I think it will be interesting to watch the VR space over the next few years.
    Last edited by motorguy; 07-07-2018 at 4:10 PM.
    "We have normality. I repeat, we have normality. Anything you still can't cope with is therefore your own problem."
    • coffeehound
    • By coffeehound 7th Jul 18, 4:22 PM
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    And likewise VR technology has improved greatly over the same time - the Oculus Go being the latest incarnation of that and the first to offer standalone capability with decent, usable performance at an (almost) buy it now price.

    I think it will be interesting to watch the VR space over the next few years.
    Originally posted by motorguy
    Fair enough from your info it is coming into its own now, but perhaps that's the same kind of situation with voice-controlled technology now as VR was in the '90s: it isn't really good for much now, but will be good for something in future. It's basically a technology looking for a worthwhile use at this stage?
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 7th Jul 18, 4:38 PM
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    Fair enough from your info it is coming into its own now, but perhaps that's the same kind of situation with voice-controlled technology now as VR was in the '90s: it isn't really good for much now, but will be good for something in future. It's basically a technology looking for a worthwhile use at this stage?
    Originally posted by coffeehound
    Have a read at this

    https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/03/26/what-does-the-future-hold-for-virtual-reality.aspx

    And this

    http://home.bt.com/tech-gadgets/future-tech/7-ways-virtual-reality-will-change-the-world-11363913841925

    The technology itself has matured so an awful lot more is viable than was.

    Right now - and with the Oculus Go - i look at as an insight in to what the future could look like with it, but its definitely something to keep an eye on
    "We have normality. I repeat, we have normality. Anything you still can't cope with is therefore your own problem."
    • Farway
    • By Farway 7th Jul 18, 5:35 PM
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    Do you also still drive a car with a carburettor and points and condenser ignition?
    Originally posted by onomatopoeia99
    At least I'd have a clue what to check & test when it doesn't start
    • GunJack
    • By GunJack 7th Jul 18, 5:50 PM
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    The biggest single issue with "tech" these days is the constant data harvesting that's going on through it.... a lot of the current stuff would be more palatable if there was none of that going on...
    ......Gettin' There, Wherever There is......
    • RumRat
    • By RumRat 7th Jul 18, 5:58 PM
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    Fair enough from your info it is coming into its own now, but perhaps that's the same kind of situation with voice-controlled technology now as VR was in the '90s: it isn't really good for much now, but will be good for something in future. It's basically a technology looking for a worthwhile use at this stage?
    Originally posted by coffeehound
    It's amazing how many people without Voice controlled tech appear to think it doesn't do much.
    It's not for everyone, but then again, neither was the remote control.
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    • dealer wins
    • By dealer wins 7th Jul 18, 6:08 PM
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    Anything with the word "smart" is to be avoided, a pet hate of mine that word when used in a tech way!!!
    Choose life
    • iltisman
    • By iltisman 7th Jul 18, 6:26 PM
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    Any voice controlled device ,they just don't work with my voice.

    Smart Meters, just a con to do away with meter readers .

    Cars that don't have an ignition key, just a dongle and a button on the dash . I thought that would go wrong when I hired one and it failed.
    It's only my cheerfulness that keeps me going
    • Dandytf
    • By Dandytf 7th Jul 18, 8:05 PM
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    I find myself resisting smart light hubs and bulbs.
    Not sure why-takes a bit of effort to find ses small screw smart bulbs-though they can be purchased online via 3rd party sites.
    Yet to be convinced at the investment required to setup.
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    • coffeehound
    • By coffeehound 7th Jul 18, 8:21 PM
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    It's amazing how many people without Voice controlled tech appear to think it doesn't do much.
    It's not for everyone, but then again, neither was the remote control.
    Originally posted by RumRat
    I can't remember anyone complaining about remote controls (well except for the VCR ones connected by wires that the dog chewed), but anyway. Pray enlighten me.
    • B_G_B
    • By B_G_B 7th Jul 18, 8:27 PM
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    Beware of toasters trying to take over the world!
    Originally posted by Spidernick
    Jogged my memory......

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRq_SAuQDec
    • RumRat
    • By RumRat 7th Jul 18, 9:05 PM
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    Any voice controlled device ,they just don't work with my voice.

    Smart Meters, just a con to do away with meter readers .

    Cars that don't have an ignition key, just a dongle and a button on the dash . I thought that would go wrong when I hired one and it failed.
    Originally posted by iltisman
    What's wrong with your voice? Our Google home understands the 3 year old in the house who has difficulty with G's, C's and F's....
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    • RumRat
    • By RumRat 7th Jul 18, 9:25 PM
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    I can't remember anyone complaining about remote controls (well except for the VCR ones connected by wires that the dog chewed), but anyway. Pray enlighten me.
    Originally posted by coffeehound
    I don't recall saying anyone complained about them..
    Drinking Rum before 10am makes you
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    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 7th Jul 18, 10:33 PM
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    My car is 'half keyless' in that I open it with a button press, but the key folds out from the fob and is used to start the engine. What I love about the car and my phone, is the way that I can Bluetooth - connect both and put the phone in a cradle, to use the phone hands-free and communicate via the audio system. If in busy traffic, I ask the caller to wait until I can call back. The cradle is in a useful small 'A' pillar side window, and out of most of my field of view



    This may not be new to most of you, but at 73 I find that using the Tech that is actually useful to my needs, is the stuff I will use.
    I think this job really needs
    a much bigger hammer.
    • boliston
    • By boliston 7th Jul 18, 10:47 PM
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    ....

    Smart Meters, just a con to do away with meter readers . ...
    Originally posted by iltisman
    Can't see any great harm in automating something that must be very tedious and labour intensive to do manually - what did switchboard operators do when direct dial phones were invented?
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