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    • izoomzoom
    • By izoomzoom 6th Jul 18, 6:46 PM
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    Mental Capacity Assessment
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    • 6th Jul 18, 6:46 PM
    Mental Capacity Assessment 6th Jul 18 at 6:46 PM
    My Mum has dementia, diagnosed 2 years ago and I am her FT carer. There is no POA.

    We are going away for a short holiday and I've arranged for Mum to go into respite care.

    Social services are involved, because it is a LA run care home. Mum will be self funded.

    They are coming to do a Mental Capacity Assessment.

    I understand that this is part of the process, but is there anything I need to be worried about / can go wrong in the future? Will I be allowed to be present, or what?
    LBM Nov 08 CC debt 6450.

    As at Jul 2010: 4280 (PO 2087, Barc 890, HSBC 1303)
    As at Jul 2011: 3180 (PO 300. Barc 2780)
    As at Dec 2012 4460 (PO 2600, Barc 1760, HSBC 100)
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    • elsien
    • By elsien 6th Jul 18, 6:56 PM
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    • 6th Jul 18, 6:56 PM
    What is the capacity assessment for?

    Capacity assessments are time and decision specific so what's the decision? Is it about whether or not she is able to agree to go into respite care?
    Or is it about any needs assessments.
    They will probably want to talk to mum on her own at some point. That's nothing to worry about, it's so she's free to say what she wants without worrying about what anyone else might think. And that is not a reflection on you in any way.
    With regards to the future, as capacity can change over time and depending on the decision being made, further capacity assessments would be done if and when they were needed.

    It's nothing to worry about, it's just that people who have capacity have the right to make unwise decisions so they're making sure any best interest's decisions made (such as going into respite) are done lawfully. That's all. It's to protect your mum's rights.
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
    • Keep pedalling
    • By Keep pedalling 6th Jul 18, 10:52 PM
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    • 6th Jul 18, 10:52 PM
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    • 6th Jul 18, 10:52 PM
    I found that even using privately run care homes for rest bite for my late mother they also did a mental and physical assessment, in advance of her stay. They have to establish whether the home is suitable for her needs, and if any special facilities are required.

    If you mum still has enough mental capacity to make decisions you really should get LPAs in place, especially for finance.
    • poppy10
    • By poppy10 8th Jul 18, 12:39 PM
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    • 8th Jul 18, 12:39 PM
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    • 8th Jul 18, 12:39 PM
    They are coming to do a Mental Capacity Assessment.

    I understand that this is part of the process, but is there anything I need to be worried about / can go wrong in the future?
    Originally posted by izoomzoom
    This won't be anything to worry about. They'll assess whether she is able to understand/retain/weigh up information regarding going into respite and communicate her decision. If she lacks capacity they'll act in her best interests so either way she'll be going in for the respite unless they somehow decide its in her best interests for her to be home alone while you are on holiday

    For the future I'd definitely recommend getting the PoA set up ASAP
    • izoomzoom
    • By izoomzoom 24th Aug 18, 2:48 PM
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    • 24th Aug 18, 2:48 PM
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    • 24th Aug 18, 2:48 PM
    I just wanted to report back.

    The mental capacity assessment was to see if Mom understood enough that she was going into respite care, and what it involved.

    Sadly, although she agreed to go, she really had no comprehension what she was "consenting" to. Through the questioning of the SW (I was present throughout), Mom got very little right - (her name, DOB, POB, likes coffee with 1 sugar, her younger brother name and my husband name) - that was it. Everything else, she either couldn't answer or lied / got wrong).

    She was fantastic at the respite care though, never gave them any trouble and just accepted that is where she lived. She was 'oh, okay' when I came to bring her home.
    LBM Nov 08 CC debt 6450.

    As at Jul 2010: 4280 (PO 2087, Barc 890, HSBC 1303)
    As at Jul 2011: 3180 (PO 300. Barc 2780)
    As at Dec 2012 4460 (PO 2600, Barc 1760, HSBC 100)
    • BrassicWoman
    • By BrassicWoman 24th Aug 18, 3:24 PM
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    • 24th Aug 18, 3:24 PM
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    • 24th Aug 18, 3:24 PM
    It's really challenging, isn't it?

    I am glad you got a break and hope you felt a little more rested after it.
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    • tacpot12
    • By tacpot12 24th Aug 18, 3:39 PM
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    • 24th Aug 18, 3:39 PM
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    • 24th Aug 18, 3:39 PM
    Thanks for the update. It's really nice to hear how things turned out for, and it the update may provide additional information and reassurance for anyone who reads the thread at a later date.
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