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    • Icarus01
    • By Icarus01 6th Jul 18, 9:20 AM
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    Need some help with new rental
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    • 6th Jul 18, 9:20 AM
    Need some help with new rental 6th Jul 18 at 9:20 AM
    I've just signed a lease on a rental bungalow adjacent to the landlords house. There are 2 bungalows with side doors in the walkway between them and the LLs house, it leads to their garden also but they have blocked that off with plant pots and a shed. The walkway itself is behind a locked gate, and it's requested that it remains locked at all times.


    Now, my problem is that I have no mailbox on my front door (not that the mailman could access it anyway) and the LL said no to me hanging an external mailbox on the gate.


    I spoke with the young lady who's renting the other bungalow and she said she was unhappy with the situation, but was too shy to bring it up to LL and has her mail delivered to her parents instead - which is something I can't do. I even suggested that I was happy to move the gate to the end of the walkway, blocking off access to the LL's garden, but giving the postman access to both the front doors on the bungalow, but they still said no.


    Short of getting a PO Box, do I have any other options here? I feel the landlord is being unfair seeing as they don't use that walkway at all, i've offered to do the suggestions out of my own pocket, and they have 4 other ways into their garden. I know it's my fault for not noticing it before I signed the lease but it feels silly paying rent/bills/council tax and not having something as basic as my own mailbox.


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    • RubyHouse
    • By RubyHouse 6th Jul 18, 9:58 AM
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    • 6th Jul 18, 9:58 AM
    Is he crazy?

    I would ask, politley, how he suggests you receive your mail to your address.

    Alternatively, Maybe you should send all your correspondence to his address as he has the luxury of a letterbox. Order loads of cheap, large items from ebay and get them delivered to his address, I am sure he will soon change his mind.
    • G_M
    • By G_M 6th Jul 18, 10:05 AM
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    can you clarify relationship of the walkway, the 2 rented bungalows, the LLs property and the LL's garden?

    In particular it seems like the LL himself does not use the walkway if it is 'blocked off'.

    In that case, if just the 2 bungalows use it, just leave the gate unlocked. The postman can then get to your door where, I assume, there is a letterbox?

    Ignore the LL's demand to lock the gate.

    the alternative is to simply put up a box for letters. Investigate carefully and choose one that will not cause damage when fixing. Maybe free-standing even? Again, ignore the LL & just do it.

    Either way, catch the postie and have a friendly chat so he knows where you want the letters.

    The real problem here (quite common) is that the LL is a neighbour, so has oversight (and comment) on every little thing you do. Not comfortable........


    (out of interest, what do visitors do? Are there 2 bells by the gate for visitors to the bungalows?)
    Last edited by G_M; 06-07-2018 at 10:08 AM.
    • hazyjo
    • By hazyjo 6th Jul 18, 10:10 AM
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    You could arrange to collect it from a local post office.


    Would it be possible to have an American style lockable one somewhere that wouldn't actually affect the structure? Post in garden? These are some google results: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=freestanding+letter+box+garden&source=lnm s&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiF2baJkIrcAhVlKsAKHYU6B wIQ_AUICigB&biw=1290&bih=920#spd=0


    and


    this company http://www.lettasafe.co.uk/s/14/free-standing-letterboxes/section.php
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    • Icarus01
    • By Icarus01 6th Jul 18, 10:20 AM
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    • 6th Jul 18, 10:20 AM
    can you clarify relationship of the walkway, the 2 rented bungalows, the LLs property and the LL's garden?

    In particular it seems like the LL himself does not use the walkway if it is 'blocked off'.

    In that case, if just the 2 bungalows use it, just leave the gate unlocked. The postman can then get to your door where, I assume, there is a letterbox?

    Ignore the LL's demand to lock the gate.

    the alternative is to simply put up a box for letters. Investigate carefully and choose one that will not cause damage when fixing. Maybe free-standing even? Again, ignore the LL & just do it.

    Either way, catch the postie and have a friendly chat so he knows where you want the letters.

    The real problem here (quite common) is that the LL is a neighbour, so has oversight (and comment) on every little thing you do. Not comfortable........


    (out of interest, what do visitors do? Are there 2 bells by the gate for visitors to the bungalows?)
    Originally posted by G_M



    Sure,


    The landlords property is a large detached house. On one side they have a detached double garage that has access to the rear garden from both sides, they also have various gates around the side and rear of their house.


    The bungalows are on the other side with a 3ft walkway between them and the landlords house. They have no doors or windows on their side in the walkway, and the entrance to their garden is blocked off with plant pots / shed.



    I do not have a mailbox but it would be easy to hang one up next to the door. I've only had a couple visitors so far and they've just rung when they're outside.


    It's a little frustrating that they said no to moving the gate, especially as it's only there to stop people getting into their garden.
    • lindens
    • By lindens 6th Jul 18, 11:00 AM
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    • 6th Jul 18, 11:00 AM
    You could arrange to collect it from a local post office.


    Would it be possible to have an American style lockable one somewhere that wouldn't actually affect the structure? Post in garden? These are some google results: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=freestanding+letter+box+garden&source=lnm s&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiF2baJkIrcAhVlKsAKHYU6B wIQ_AUICigB&biw=1290&bih=920#spd=0


    and


    this company http://www.lettasafe.co.uk/s/14/free-standing-letterboxes/section.php
    Originally posted by hazyjo
    I was going to suggest one of these (or smaller)
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    • Smodlet
    • By Smodlet 6th Jul 18, 11:47 AM
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    It sounds rather as if the LL has built two bungalows on what was part of his garden and now wants to have his cake and eat it. Do you have access to any form of garden, OP?

    How would emergency service personnel access or enter your property if no-one can get to your front door? Or have I misunderstood the situation? It is not very clear atm at least, to me.
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    • Icarus01
    • By Icarus01 6th Jul 18, 12:11 PM
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    It sounds rather as if the LL has built two bungalows on what was part of his garden and now wants to have his cake and eat it. Do you have access to any form of garden, OP?

    How would emergency service personnel access or enter your property if no-one can get to your front door? Or have I misunderstood the situation? It is not very clear atm at least, to me.
    Originally posted by Smodlet

    No access to any garden.


    I guess they'd have to get the gate key from the LL or knock on the window of the other bungalow?
    • Smodlet
    • By Smodlet 6th Jul 18, 12:21 PM
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    OK, what if no-one was in at the LL's house to unlock the gate and you were having a heart attack or were trapped in a burning kitchen? I think you need to address these eventualities with the LL as he is putting you and the other tenant at risk.

    Had he made clear on the planning application for these bungalows that emergency access would not be possible, I doubt he would have been allowed to build them. I know of an instance where permission was refused because the drive between two properties was not wide enough to allow access to the proposed house in the applicant's back garden. Might be time to involve the council, depending on how badly you want to remain in your current property.
    Last edited by Smodlet; 06-07-2018 at 4:01 PM.
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    • Cakeguts
    • By Cakeguts 6th Jul 18, 3:06 PM
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    Why did you agree to rent this property?
    • Icarus01
    • By Icarus01 9th Jul 18, 8:21 AM
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    Why did you agree to rent this property?
    Originally posted by Cakeguts

    I said I didn't notice it until after I signed the lease, nothing else is wrong with the property..


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    Anyway, i've bolted an external letterbox to the gate with my number and also a wireless doorbell ringer so I know when people are waiting for me. Will see what the LL does.
    • steampowered
    • By steampowered 9th Jul 18, 9:19 AM
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    In the first instance I would knock on the landlord's door, invite him round for a cup of tea and talk to him about the fact that you need to be able to receive post - and see if you can agree a solution.

    If that doesn't work, I think hazyjo's suggestion is excellent. A free standing letter box sounds like a very good idea.

    I certainly don't blame you for not noticing this before you rented. I wouldn't think to look for the postbox when renting a property. Most people would just assume that a property is able to receive post!
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