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    • tmax96
    • By tmax96 4th Jul 18, 5:08 PM
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    Out of curiousity, how many people on here end up being taken to court?
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    • 4th Jul 18, 5:08 PM
    Out of curiousity, how many people on here end up being taken to court? 4th Jul 18 at 5:08 PM
    I stupidly posted stuff panicking about a parking ticket a few months back without reading the sticky threads, which Iíd like to apologise about again as Iím sure the people who always help out on here are likely very tired of it. But I was just wondering, how often would you say the drp and zenith letters (which I now ignore regularly) end up escalating to a genuine court claim or something serious? Apologies if this has been asked loads of times, as I said, just curious.
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    • Computersaysno
    • By Computersaysno 4th Jul 18, 5:09 PM
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    • 4th Jul 18, 5:09 PM
    It depends.....
    Welcome to the world of 'Protect the brand at the cost of free speech'
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 4th Jul 18, 5:12 PM
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    • #3
    • 4th Jul 18, 5:12 PM
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    • 4th Jul 18, 5:12 PM
    I stupidly posted stuff panicking about a parking ticket a few months back without reading the sticky threads, which I!!!8217;d like to apologise about again as I!!!8217;m sure the people who always help out on here are likely very tired of it. But I was just wondering, how often would you say the drp and zenith letters (which I now ignore regularly) end up escalating to a genuine court claim or something serious? Apologies if this has been asked loads of times, as I said, just curious.
    Originally posted by tmax96
    Depends on the parking firm. Plenty never sue. IPC firms are more likely to. We still win!

    The NEWBIES thread post #2 has a link to a parkingappeals (PADI) webpage - which shows all the BMPA information held about the stats for each and every parking firm and how often they appear in court cases. So you can look up 'your' parking firm to see how litigious they are.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • pogofish
    • By pogofish 4th Jul 18, 5:23 PM
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    • 4th Jul 18, 5:23 PM
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    • 4th Jul 18, 5:23 PM
    If you had actually bothered to read the sticky, you would know exactly how many DRP/Zenith etc letters proceed to court. It is a very clear and simple number!
    • IamEmanresu
    • By IamEmanresu 4th Jul 18, 5:24 PM
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    • 4th Jul 18, 5:24 PM
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    • 4th Jul 18, 5:24 PM
    Out of curiosity is this related to your other 2 threads about the MJB Hotel and National Parking Enforcement?
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    • tmax96
    • By tmax96 4th Jul 18, 5:50 PM
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    • 4th Jul 18, 5:50 PM
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    • 4th Jul 18, 5:50 PM
    I stupidly posted stuff panicking about a parking ticket a few months back without reading the sticky threads, which Iíd like to apologise about again as Iím sure the people who always help out on here are likely very tired of it. But I was just wondering, how often would you say the drp and zenith letters (which I now ignore regularly) end up escalating to a genuine court claim or something serious? Apologies if this has been asked loads of times, as I said, just curious.
    Originally posted by tmax96
    Well obviously, if theyíre the two things Iíve previously posted about? My collection of letters is going up, I find it ammusing. I was a paranoid overthinking idiot that didnít read what I should have read before posting a while back. I see the odd post on here about genuine court action so thought Iíd ask. Is that okay? I really hope itís okay mate
    • tmax96
    • By tmax96 4th Jul 18, 5:52 PM
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    • 4th Jul 18, 5:52 PM
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    • 4th Jul 18, 5:52 PM
    I have bothered to read it, sometimes I may miss out the odd thing. It was a question, you can see it has been answered above, which Iím thankful for. What was the point in your reply then? If you can see Iíve asked something, and that two people have already answered it, what exactly is the point of replying the way you have? !!!128514;
    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 4th Jul 18, 5:55 PM
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    • 4th Jul 18, 5:55 PM
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    • 4th Jul 18, 5:55 PM
    Always better to keep to one thread rather than start new ones


    You've seen how busy this forum gets


    And of course frustrating when you start a thread about something covered in the FAQ!


    Another thread you should read about DRP:


    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5035663
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 4th Jul 18, 6:07 PM
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    • #9
    • 4th Jul 18, 6:07 PM
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    • 4th Jul 18, 6:07 PM
    DRP nor Zenith (one and the same company) can instigate court proceedings in their own right. They have no direct interest in the alleged debt.

    We have seen, over many years, the letters they send which state they 'may recommend to their client that they proceed to court'. Almost always this has been an empty threat - especially as if DRP hand the case back to the operator, their prospect of earning anything from it evaporates (they work on a 'no collection, no fee' basis (the £60 they add as standard to the usual £100 PCN).

    However, we have seen a very small number of cases - hard to quantify, but very small numbers, where it seems the PPC has picked up the case again after DRP/Zenith and tried a court case. The best indicator, if you get a DRP/Zenith involvement, is a quick reference to PADI to ascertain the degree of litigiousness shown by that particular operator. In your case with NPE, their litigiousness indicator is zero!

    http://www.parkingappeals.info/companydata/National_Parking_Enforcement.html

    Ignore anything from DRP/Zenith.
    Last edited by Umkomaas; 04-07-2018 at 6:09 PM.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

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    • IamEmanresu
    • By IamEmanresu 4th Jul 18, 6:11 PM
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    Is this related to your other two threads about the MJB Hotel? There is a purpose in asking.

    As a supplementary, if it is about the MJB Hotel are they still there. Is the MJB still there?
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    • twhitehousescat
    • By twhitehousescat 4th Jul 18, 6:19 PM
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    ok read this every morning http://www.parkingappeals.info/court.html and work it out
    Time pretending I was asleep whilst under his desk , has given me insight to this sordid world
    • tmax96
    • By tmax96 4th Jul 18, 8:04 PM
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    Sorry, I thought it was asked in a completely different type of way. And yes as far as Iím aware the mjb is still there
    • QualitySign
    • By QualitySign 10th Jul 18, 3:42 PM
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    On a related point - how many letters are there in the DRP / Zenith paper chase?

    I have exhausted ignoring DRP and am now with their side-kicks Zenith, having received 2 letters so far. Is there a typical number that Zenith send before some other tactic is used or they give up?
    • waamo
    • By waamo 10th Jul 18, 3:51 PM
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    On a related point - how many letters are there in the DRP / Zenith paper chase?

    I have exhausted ignoring DRP and am now with their side-kicks Zenith, having received 2 letters so far. Is there a typical number that Zenith send before some other tactic is used or they give up?
    Originally posted by QualitySign
    This is one of life's great mysteries. How many letters they send seems to depend on what kind of mood they are in.
    This space for hire.
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 10th Jul 18, 5:19 PM
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    On a related point - how many letters are there in the DRP / Zenith paper chase?

    I have exhausted ignoring DRP and am now with their side-kicks Zenith, having received 2 letters so far. Is there a typical number that Zenith send before some other tactic is used or they give up?
    Originally posted by QualitySign
    The end is nigh when you're offered a reduction in the price.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

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    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 10th Jul 18, 5:31 PM
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    I had 4 each from DRP and zenith, the amount kept going up and down.

    This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors.

    Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, and another company have already been named and shamed, as has Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each year). They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

    Hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned.

    The problem has become so rampant that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers. Watch the video of the Second Reading in the HofC recently.

    http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41

    and complain in the most robust terms to your MP. With a fair wind they will be out of business by Christmas.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 10th Jul 18, 6:53 PM
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    How many do they take to court ? Considering the number
    of fake tickets issued, it cannot be a high number because
    the courts would be snowed under with fake claims.

    Add that to the ever increasing number of threats by
    dodgy legals who are then whooped in court which rather
    points to the courts waking up to the scam and the courts
    being used as a glorified debt collector

    Also understand that if this was such an amazing way
    for solicitors to make money, ask yourself why there
    are only 4 legals who attach themselves to a scam industry

    BWLEGAL
    SCS LAW
    QDR AKA WRIGHT HASSALL
    GLADSTONES

    No other solicitor will touch this scam industry because
    they have their name and reputation to protect plus, no
    other solicitor will work for peanuts as the above do.

    However, do expect the 4 amigos above to get busy
    busy in anticipation of the government new code of practice

    The new debt protocol alone has clipped their wings because
    they now have hoops to jump through and wait for 30 days

    The Robo Claims bunch have put them into slow motion.
    and that costs time and money, the chances are very high
    now that they will lose in court anyway

    The debt collectors with their fabrications and lies must
    be run by complete idiots ... they know they lie, they know
    they are powerless and they know they are timewasters

    DRP is of concern, not DRP as such as they are rubbish,
    more so they are members of the BPA who know that
    DRP lie, fabricate and intimidate

    The BPA state ....

    "ensure we can continue to raise standards and encourage professionalism"

    One can only assume that this is a lie and members like
    DRP roll along on the back of a BPA fabrication

    Andrew Pester, Kelvin Reynolds, Caron Fassetta, Lesley Bradford,
    Dave Smith, Julian O'Kelly and Steve Clark .... board members BPA

    These people must clean up their act and pass GO to get out
    of the Gobi desert
    Last edited by beamerguy; 10-07-2018 at 7:03 PM.
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