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    • 50Twuncle
    • By 50Twuncle 3rd Jul 18, 3:04 PM
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    Avoid Gmail
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 3:04 PM
    Avoid Gmail 3rd Jul 18 at 3:04 PM
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44699263
    Google have been reading your messages for years !
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    • JJ Egan
    • By JJ Egan 3rd Jul 18, 3:19 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 3:19 PM
    Thats not what it says is it .
    Just posting headline nonsense again .
    • Farway
    • By Farway 3rd Jul 18, 3:21 PM
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    • #3
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 3:21 PM
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44699263
    Google have been reading your messages for years !
    Originally posted by 50Twuncle
    I thought we all knew that?

    It's a trade off IMO, convenience versus privacy, and tin foil hat time, they all do, it's the law in UK to keep all e -mails for, I think, a year, so GCHQ / boys in blue / and any other "authorised persons" can have a nose through
    • Oakdene
    • By Oakdene 3rd Jul 18, 3:27 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 3:27 PM
    Aw well, at least they will know that my ex is a psycho.
    Dwy galon, un dyhead,
    Dwy dafod ond un iaith,
    Dwy raff yn cydion ddolen,
    Dau enaid ond un taith.


    • thrifty_pete
    • By thrifty_pete 3rd Jul 18, 3:33 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 3:33 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 3:33 PM
    I've had a Gmail account since 2005 and I assume all the messages are read by Google. The BBC article says third parties have access but only if you grant them access.
    • ballyblack
    • By ballyblack 3rd Jul 18, 3:46 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 3:46 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 3:46 PM
    so what. I will not be avoiding it

    anyway i don't have the time to read all my own gmail!

    .
    Last edited by ballyblack; 03-07-2018 at 3:57 PM.
    • AndyPix
    • By AndyPix 3rd Jul 18, 3:52 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 3:52 PM
    Note to self : avoid 50Twuncle's threads
    Running with scissors since 1978
    • Frozen_up_north
    • By Frozen_up_north 3rd Jul 18, 5:55 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 5:55 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 5:55 PM
    This isn't news, most email is far from private. Consider it no more secure/personal than sending a postcard unless you use an encrypted one such as ProtonMail.

    The same goes for ISPs recording every website you visit, and phone companies storing every phone number you call and every text message (including content) too.

    Using a VPN May increase privacy, although it's far from clear whether they are what they claim to be. It is easy for a government agency to setup any number of them...
    • powerful_Rogue
    • By powerful_Rogue 3rd Jul 18, 5:58 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 5:58 PM
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    • 3rd Jul 18, 5:58 PM
    Couldn't give a monkeys! If Google find something interesting in my emaisl then good on them!
    • robin58
    • By robin58 3rd Jul 18, 7:00 PM
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44699263
    Google have been reading your messages for years !
    Originally posted by 50Twuncle
    Avoid 50Twuncle, he posts over the top posts.

    It's not Google reading your emails but data firms. A bit like the Facebook fiasco.

    If you go to your Google account you can disassociate the effending companies who are collecting your data.


    And for the OP's information, I been into computers since the 80's'

    I've always assume that many companies read my data and email communications.

    That's why I have a low social media presence.
    The more I live, the more I learn.
    The more I learn, the more I grow.
    The more I grow, the more I see.
    The more I see, the more I know.
    The more I know, the more I see,
    How little I know.!!
    • pmduk
    • By pmduk 4th Jul 18, 9:04 AM
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    Note to self : avoid 50Twuncle's threads
    Originally posted by AndyPix
    He's been on ignore for ages for just this sort of thread.
    • stragglebod
    • By stragglebod 4th Jul 18, 9:53 AM
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    Top story: people you've explicitly given permission to read your emails can read your emails!
    • dogmaryxx
    • By dogmaryxx 4th Jul 18, 10:09 AM
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    He's been on ignore for ages for just this sort of thread.
    Originally posted by pmduk
    Yet here you are.
    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 4th Jul 18, 10:14 AM
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    That'd be handy, I have about 70,000 unread emails in my gmail account - perhaps they can send me a summary .... or go through deleting all the nonsense marketing ones I'm inundated with.

    I open email about 3-4x a month and I search for the names of people/companies who might've sent me something I want/need to read... then I close it.
    • poppasmurf_bewdley
    • By poppasmurf_bewdley 4th Jul 18, 10:27 AM
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    If Gmail didn't read all the messages sent, how would it know which ones to put into the Spam folder?

    And whilst we're at it, GCHQ are probably reading them as well!
    "There are not enough superlatives in the English language to describe a 'Princess Coronation' locomotive in full cry. We shall never see their like again". O S Nock
    • Judi
    • By Judi 4th Jul 18, 10:35 AM
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    Nothing in my emails anyone would want to read unfortunately and ive closed all but my gmail email account and thats full of rubbbish.
    'Holy crap on a cracker!'
    • Ant555
    • By Ant555 4th Jul 18, 12:31 PM
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    It looks like at least one of the 'third parties' people have been giving permissions to, is an email app.

    Edison Mail permissions ask for permissions to do everything with your messages, which if you want to install a third party email app sounds exactly like the kind of thing you would expect.

    "Edison accesses and processes email messages in any email accounts you have connected.By linking our Services to your email or other internet accounts, you authorize us to collect, process, and retain information, including personal information, from those accounts."


    It seems like its interpretation of some of the terms - 'access your messages' sounds generic and also probably required to get the emails into their app, but can mean a human actually reading your messages.

    Many people understand nowadays that free to use is great but the companies have to pay their staff by some means: advertising, paid add-ons etc

    Edison do have an opt out in the settings but its in their favour by default.
    Last edited by Ant555; 04-07-2018 at 12:41 PM.
    • donnac2558
    • By donnac2558 4th Jul 18, 2:03 PM
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    That thump was whoever has been reading my emails falling asleep with boredom.
    • Farway
    • By Farway 4th Jul 18, 3:15 PM
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    That thump was whoever has been reading my emails falling asleep with boredom.
    Originally posted by donnac2558
    Are you sure it wasn't the young lady typing with one hand because the other one is "busy"?
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 4th Jul 18, 4:25 PM
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44699263
    Google have been reading your messages for years !
    Originally posted by 50Twuncle
    They openly stated they did in order to give targeted adverts from the very start of the service if you bothered to read the terms and conditions when you signed up.

    When you install apps on your phone or tablet it'll give you a long list of things it wants permission to do which people don't bother reading.

    Article may as well have been titled "User discovers that software does what it told him it was going to do when he clicked Accept".
    Last edited by Tarambor; 04-07-2018 at 4:28 PM.
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