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    • By beamerguy 22nd Jun 18, 10:38 AM
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    Debt Collectors (DRP & ZZPS) What they don't want you to know
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    • 22nd Jun 18, 10:38 AM
    Debt Collectors (DRP & ZZPS) What they don't want you to know 22nd Jun 18 at 10:38 AM
    Debt Collectors (DRP & ZZPS & Zenith)
    What they don't want you to know


    ===================================
    WARNING (November 2018) Thanks to Castle
    Whilst being warned NEVER to contact DRP and other
    debt collectors, some have fallen into the trap.
    You will be pressurised into paying an amount you
    probably don't owe by giving a full payment or by monthly
    installments.
    You will be told that if you do not pay, you will go to
    court, you will get a CCJ, your credit rating will be damaged
    meaning you cannot get loans etc etc.
    These scare tactics are just that .. scare tactics. But is
    DRP acting legally ???


    MISLEADING AND AGGRESSIVE COMMERCIAL PRACTICES
    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/721872/misleading-aggressive-commercial-practices-guidance.pdf

    Part 1: Liability for misleading and aggressive
    practices

    The 2008 Regulations make misleading actions unlawful
    (see regulation 5). An action by a trader is misleading if it
    contains false information or if it is likely to mislead
    the average consumer in its overall presentation.


    Consumer payments and “civil recovery”
    The Regulations amend the definition of a “transactional decision”
    to expressly cover demands for payment from a consumer in full
    or partial settlement of the consumer’s liabilities or purported
    liabilities to the trader (see reg 2(1A) of the 2008 Regulations).
    This means that misleading and aggressive practices in respect of
    such demands would now clearly lead to both criminal sanctions
    (under the 2008 Regulations)

    ===================================
    ALL DEBT COLLECTORS INVOLVED IN THE PRIVATE
    PARKING INDUSTRY ARE TIMEWASTERS TO IGNORE

    ===================================
    NEVER CONTACT - NEVER PAY DEBT COLLECTORS
    ===================================
    THE 60 SCAM OPERATED BY DRP ?
    If you get a letter from DRP for 160 it's because they
    tell parking companies that their fees will be added
    to the parking charge. However they also tell PPC's
    "We offer a ‘no collection, no fee service"
    This simply means that if you do not pay and they
    do not collect the service is FREE to the PPC.
    THE DRP SITE
    http://www.debtrecoveryplus.co.uk/pcn-collection/
    (Just in case DRP decide to remove this link there is
    a screenshot available to show a court)

    As DRP cannot take you to court, they pass it back
    to the PPC and they also pass back the 60 WHICH
    IS FAKE if they did not collect from you.
    The PPC then passes this to a dodgy legal who in
    turn add the 60 but now they claim it's an admin
    fee or a contractual charge.
    AS you did not pay DRP, there is no 60 because they
    failed to collect so it's .. ‘no collection, no fee service"
    THIS IS THE DRP SCAM

    DRP ARE MEMBERS OF THE BPA SO THIS SCAM IS
    APPROVED BY THE BPA

    ===================================
    Are dodgy legals trying to extort money from you ?
    If so contact your MP to complain about this extortion.
    Ask your MP to read this ....

    https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2018-07-19/debates/2b90805c-bff8-4707-8bdc-b0bfae5a7ad5/Parking(CodeOfPractice)Bill(FirstSitting

    ===================================
    DRP are members of the BPA (Not as a parking operator)
    Why does Steve Clark of the BPA allow this member to
    tell lies to the motorist ????????


    Troubled by BPA LIARS ? Steve Clark aos@britishparking.co.uk
    OR .. steve.c@britishparking.co.uk
    ===================================
    LIVE IN SCOTLAND ???? there is a new wheeze by
    Parking Eye using Stirling Park Debt Collectors
    IGNORE, don't fall into the trap, PE think you are
    a mug but they need to know who was the driver ?
    THAT IS YOUR SECRET and none of their business

    ==================================
    Another of these debt collectors who add on a fake 60
    is Direct Collection Bailiffs Limited. IGNORE THEM
    Same advise as with every debt collector who join
    in the great parking scam

    ==================================

    Debt collector letters can send a shiver down your spine
    with wild threats of County Court Judgements, Bailiffs,
    seizing your goods, your credit rating will be affected
    with a CCJ, will not be able to get loans etc etc ??

    Sounds crazy over a silly parking Ticket for 100 and
    if it all sounds like rubbish ...... IT IS

    WHAT THEY DON'T WANT YOU KNOW ...
    SIMPLE .... In the private parking industry
    they are 100% powerless and have no clout whatsoever.

    ***THAT'S WHY YOU MUST IGNORE THEM
    ***THEY CANNOT TAKE YOU TO COURT
    ***THEY CANNOT CARRY OUT THEIR FAKE THREATS


    IMPORTANT .... NO THUGS WILL CALL AT YOUR HOME

    ====================================
    This applies to ALL Debt collectors who try to dip their
    toes into your private life.
    Another is TRACE Debt Recovery UK

    Then we have DCBL, the soap on TV, Can't pay
    we'll take it away. DCBL dip their toes into private parking
    scams and act as debt collectors and with their TV reputation
    it's all designed to scare you.
    "Can't pay we'll take it away" is all about cases that have
    gone to court already and people have ignored.
    Getting a debt collector letter from DCBL is just that, a debt
    collectors letter and as such their power vanishes just like
    the rest of them ..... it's never been to court SO GET WISE
    ====================================

    ====================================
    Equita. (As explained by Umkomaas)
    Equita are debt collectors and should be ignored
    (see NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #4). They are a sister
    company to PE and from what we've seen over many
    months, PE farm out 'debts' to them where they are unable
    (contract principal won't allow) or are on too thin ice to
    proceed to court.

    Rest assured, if PE had a strong enough case, court papers
    would have been served by now.

    ====================================

    Currently there are 2 prolific debt collectors who
    operate in the parking industry and they are DRP & ZZPS.
    Others pop in and out .... mainly out when they realise
    there is no money to be made because they are powerless

    ====================================

    BEAVIS v PARKING EYE in the Supreme Court
    Often, these powerless debt collectors make reference
    to the Parking Eye/Supreme court case ? They seem to
    think that this is the key for them to extort money from
    you.
    Barry Beavis took Parking Eye to court because he claimed
    the charges were unfair. The court said they were ... and
    that was it. So unless you are claiming that the charge
    was unfair, the Supreme court decision has no bearing
    on you and it's yet more rubbish that debt crawlers use

    ====================================


    These letters are very intimidating and scary.
    These letters misinterpret the facts and so if you receive
    these letters from DRP and ZZPS, you must complain
    to your Trading Standards .... send them a copy.
    PLUS REMEMBER ..... YOU IGNORE THEM

    Of late we have seen a spate of Debt Collector PLUS
    letters. This now involves solicitor headed paper which
    at first sight could wrongly be interpreted as a legal letter
    but ..... read the wording.... words such as "may" now come
    into play and if you are asked to pay to a third party
    such as DRP, you will know this is just another debt collector
    letter .... AGAIN, TO BE IGNORED

    These second generation debt collector letters will no
    doubt use the same threats and again such letters should
    be sent to your local Trading Standards

    Currently there are 3 solicitors who use these tactics
    and they are
    GLADSTONES SOLICITORS
    WRIGHT HASSALL / QDR (same company)
    BWLegal dip in their toes ... not very well

    In a nutshell, these solicitors are pimping out
    their letterheads .... this is highly Incestuous

    So, looking through the lies and fabrications they make,
    here are the facts for you to understand


    The CCJ Myth and threats and lies told by debt collectors and PPC's .. EXPOSED

    READ THIS AND COMPARE TO THE LIES YOU ARE TOLD
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5849106&highlight=ccj+the+myth

    WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU IGNORE DEBT COLLECTORS ?
    Well, they have wasted their time and they are left with
    telling the PPC they have failed and it's passed back
    to the PPC who may or may not take it to court
    Most PPC's will pass this to a solicitor

    The 4 main contenders who operate within the scam
    industry are ,,,

    ***GLADSTONES
    ***BWLegal
    ***QDR .. AKA Wright Hassall
    ***SCS LAW

    Others have dipped their toes into this hot water and failed

    Why only 4 active legals ?
    We can only assume that out of the 1000's of legals
    throughout the UK, no one else would get involved
    because let's face it, the cost to collect 100 far outweighs
    the amount of the debt itself.
    No logic but each to their own ?

    Once you have ignored and got past the silly debt collector
    rubbish there is now a new legal procedure that these
    solicitors/legals must comply with ....

    Debt Recovery under the new Pre-Action Protocol for debt claims

    You must receive a LETTER BEFORE CLAIM (LBC)
    The legal must provide you with proof of their claim
    and then give you 30 days to respond
    If you receive a letter giving you 14 days to respond,
    that is illegal

    THIS WILL NOT COME FROM A DEBT COLLECTOR
    because they are powerless to do so.


    ===================================
    And if you think that very dodgy debt collectors are
    adding on fake charges, be warned that the even more
    dodgy legals will try to add on even more dodgy charges.

    Here is a recent case in Southampton where a judge
    ruled .... THIS IS CEL

    " Before District Judge Grand sitting at the County Court of Southampton, London Road, Southampton SO15 2XQ.
    Of the Court's Own Initiative
    IT IS ORDERED THAT
    1. The claim is struck out for an abuse of process

    Reasons:
    the claim is based on an alleged contractual parking charge of 100. The amount claimed on the claim form is 253.22 and on particulars of the claim 328.22. This inflation of the considered amount is a gross abuse of process."


    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5746246&page=2
    POST #28
    ===================================
    The information above refers to Debt Collectors involved
    in the private parking industry.
    This information is not applicable to debt collectors
    involved in the financial industry or any debts outside of
    the private parking industry
    ===================================

    After reading this thread and you wish to tell your story
    YOU MUST START YOUR OWN THREAD TO RECEIVE REPLIES
    Last edited by beamerguy; 01-11-2018 at 8:48 AM.
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 26th Jun 18, 8:51 AM
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    ignore debt crawlers

    pointless, powerless timewasters
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 2nd Jul 18, 9:06 PM
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    • 2nd Jul 18, 9:06 PM
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    • 2nd Jul 18, 9:06 PM
    More debt crawlers sending out rubbish
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    • fil cad
    • By fil cad 2nd Jul 18, 9:16 PM
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    • 2nd Jul 18, 9:16 PM
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    • 2nd Jul 18, 9:16 PM
    Good information Beamerguy
    PPCs say its carpark management, BPA say its raising standards..... we all know its just about raking in the revenue.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 13th Jul 18, 10:35 AM
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    • 13th Jul 18, 10:35 AM
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    • 13th Jul 18, 10:35 AM
    just a reminder
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 15th Jul 18, 9:43 PM
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    • 15th Jul 18, 9:43 PM
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    • 15th Jul 18, 9:43 PM
    Don't be scammed by debt collectors
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    • martin.ciech
    • By martin.ciech 16th Jul 18, 10:50 PM
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    • 16th Jul 18, 10:50 PM
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    • 16th Jul 18, 10:50 PM
    Hello, Im new here
    Please help me with this scammers
    Martin.
    I received another letter from QDR for drop off charge of Luton airport. They have now written to scare me:
    I have to pay 160 (not 60 as before)
    from the case to the court, etc.
    I'm sorry but I can not add a photo.
    What can I do now?
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 16th Jul 18, 10:53 PM
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    • 16th Jul 18, 10:53 PM
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    • 16th Jul 18, 10:53 PM
    Search the forum for QDR and ignore them.

    Don't post on this thread please.

    See my signature below for where to click to get to page one of the forum.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 19th Jul 18, 10:34 AM
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    • 19th Jul 18, 10:34 AM
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    • 19th Jul 18, 10:34 AM
    Ignore low life debt collectors
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 27th Jul 18, 11:27 AM
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    bouncing up .... the retards are active again
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 30th Jul 18, 8:41 PM
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    Read above, PE are using Stirling Park Debt Collectors
    in Scotland

    Don't get mugged
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 4th Aug 18, 9:08 PM
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    Stupid ZZPS prattling on about the Beavis case, shows how thick they are, they don't understand ... hapless extortion bunch
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 8th Aug 18, 1:29 PM
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    Drp still sending out rubbish
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 8th Sep 18, 10:44 AM
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    Ignore idiotic debt collectors
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 5th Oct 18, 11:15 AM
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    THE 60 SCAM OPERATED BY DRP ?

    Now added to the top of this page
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    • Max11
    • By Max11 27th Oct 18, 11:32 AM
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    I've also received a letter from DRP for the amount of 160. Thank u for all the info. I'm choosing to ignore them as I didn't think they had a leg to stand on, excuse the punt. But yet still very nerve wracking.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 27th Oct 18, 11:47 AM
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    I've also received a letter from DRP for the amount of 160. Thank u for all the info. I'm choosing to ignore them as I didn't think they had a leg to stand on, excuse the punt. But yet still very nerve wracking.
    Originally posted by Max11
    No nerve wracking involved, you are told on a daily basis never to contact scammers let alone pay them

    They are plebbies to TOTALLY IGNORE
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    • Lozpot318
    • By Lozpot318 1st Nov 18, 2:57 PM
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    Sorry I'm not sure I understand. I've had a letter from drp for 160 and I am FREAKING out. Everyone's told me there unregulated and I don't have to respond. So is there not an original parking fine? Like did I park, get fined, and it's been passed on to these douchebags? Do I have to pay the original fine, if there is one. My stress levels are beeeeyond right now ���� only been driving a year. Parked in a free car park 9 months ago! Got this letter today
    • waamo
    • By waamo 1st Nov 18, 3:05 PM
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    Sorry I'm not sure I understand. I've had a letter from drp for 160 and I am FREAKING out. Everyone's told me there unregulated and I don't have to respond. So is there not an original parking fine? Like did I park, get fined, and it's been passed on to these douchebags? Do I have to pay the original fine, if there is one. My stress levels are beeeeyond right now ���� only been driving a year. Parked in a free car park 9 months ago! Got this letter today
    Originally posted by Lozpot318
    They usually deal with parking tickets but only you can say if you had one or not.

    If you have a question you are better off starting your own thread but only after you have read the thread at the top of this board that tells Newbies to read it first.
    This space for hire.
    • Voltro
    • By Voltro 29th Nov 18, 9:02 PM
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    So a family member followed the advice; ignore all letters. The letters were from DRP on behalf of Parking Eye. Today a letter came through the door saying it had been to court along with a reference number that we looked up on https://www.gov.uk/county-court-judgments-ccj-for-debt/ccjs-and-your-credit-rating

    The website showed the reference number was genuine and showed they won the case and as the fee wasn’t paid a CCJ has now been applied against this person.

    So is the government lieing aswell as these “cowboys” too? I doubt it.

    Is all the advice in this thread complete nonsense !!!!!!!!? The same nonsense as the ‘freeman’ defence? It’s detailed in the OP that you will not receive a CCJ...
    Last edited by Voltro; 29-11-2018 at 9:17 PM.
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