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    • Half_way
    • By Half_way 12th Jun 18, 7:21 PM
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    Sort out the 8217 problem
    • #1
    • 12th Jun 18, 7:21 PM
    Sort out the 8217 problem 12th Jun 18 at 7:21 PM
    Noticed this when copy and pasting, and from quite a few posts, it makes some posts hard, if not impossible to read then all you see is !!!8217; all the way through
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
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    • MSE Andrea
    • By MSE Andrea 13th Jun 18, 10:31 AM
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    • 13th Jun 18, 10:31 AM
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    • 13th Jun 18, 10:31 AM
    I totally understand your frustration Half_way.

    I promise this hasn't been forgotten.
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    • eschaton
    • By eschaton 16th Jun 18, 9:58 PM
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    • 16th Jun 18, 9:58 PM
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    • 16th Jun 18, 9:58 PM
    I totally understand your frustration Half_way.

    I promise this hasn't been forgotten.
    Originally posted by MSE Andrea

    Don't you mean it hasn't been forgotten, but we are in no rush to fix it?


    If this isn't true then what are you actually doing about an issue that has been around for months?
    • MSE Andrea
    • By MSE Andrea 18th Jun 18, 11:46 AM
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    • 18th Jun 18, 11:46 AM
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    • 18th Jun 18, 11:46 AM
    Hi eschaton

    Our developers cover the whole site, not just the Forum and have several other bigger tasks they're working on at the moment. It is in the backlog though and they're aware of it.
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    • eschaton
    • By eschaton 18th Jun 18, 1:49 PM
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    • 18th Jun 18, 1:49 PM
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    • 18th Jun 18, 1:49 PM
    Hi eschaton

    Our developers cover the whole site, not just the Forum and have several other bigger tasks they're working on at the moment. It is in the backlog though and they're aware of it.
    Originally posted by MSE Andrea

    I think we are ALL aware of it.

    At least we now know that it isn't a priority.
    • redux
    • By redux 20th Jun 18, 11:24 AM
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    • #6
    • 20th Jun 18, 11:24 AM
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    • 20th Jun 18, 11:24 AM
    It's getting worse.

    A post I did last year, about censoring the acute accent, which at the time had only one of the two acute accents censored.

    The Polish city of !!!321;!d!!!378; appears in a news story today, but of course anyone spelling it properly on here will see it censored.

    Odd that MSE censors some letters with the acute accent, but not all.
    Originally posted by redux
    Where do you think that place might be?
    • LadyDee
    • By LadyDee 28th Jun 18, 9:36 AM
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    • #7
    • 28th Jun 18, 9:36 AM
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    • 28th Jun 18, 9:36 AM
    Glance over lots of posts filled with numbers and apostrophes, as do a lot of would-be helpful forumites I suspect.

    Been going on since the beginning of the year OP so don't hold your breath.
    • roddydogs
    • By roddydogs 28th Jun 18, 11:27 AM
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    • #8
    • 28th Jun 18, 11:27 AM
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    • 28th Jun 18, 11:27 AM
    So cant these posters see this, so why do they press send?
    • J B
    • By J B 28th Jun 18, 9:22 PM
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    • #9
    • 28th Jun 18, 9:22 PM
    • #9
    • 28th Jun 18, 9:22 PM
    So cant these posters see this, so why do they press send?
    Originally posted by roddydogs

    Nope - it doesn't show.


    A wile back I copy and pasted some text into a post (using Firefox on my W10PC)
    It didn't show any nonsense till after I posted it.
    I went back and edited the post, but still it inserted the rubbish in there.


    Go figure?


    The more worrying thing is that the 'tech team' are working on more important things behind the scenes ........... what disaster will that be??
    • MSE Andrea
    • By MSE Andrea 29th Jun 18, 2:15 PM
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    Hi folks

    Are you *only* seeing this happen when you copy and paste text into the Forum? Ie are posts you've written directly into the posting window ok?

    Our tech team cover all of MSE, not just the Forum.
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    • redux
    • By redux 29th Jun 18, 2:57 PM
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    Hi folks

    Are you *only* seeing this happen when you copy and paste text into the Forum? Ie are posts you've written directly into the posting window ok?

    Our tech team cover all of MSE, not just the Forum.
    Originally posted by MSE Andrea
    See my post 6 above.

    The forum has altered my quoted earlier post, from June last year.

    At that time a year ago I was adding a new comment to chat about the acute accent censorship, noting that not all accents were censored. O was, but z was not.

    The first letter of that place name is L with a sloping bar through it. Omitting all the accents it would say Lodz, which is coincidentally how sports reporters have mispronounced it.

    I can remember looking at that old post since a year ago, and it was still ok then, but can't remember exactly when.

    But anyway, the main point is it was ok for a while, from originally copied in, but now is not.

    On recent posts which convert apostrophe and inverted commas to those exclamations and numbers, it happens either when self-typed or copied. Sometimes it is possible to edit the post and correct them, sometimes not.
    Last edited by redux; 29-06-2018 at 3:01 PM.
    • martinthebandit
    • By martinthebandit 29th Jun 18, 3:05 PM
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    If your using an iPad go into settings, keyboard and turn off 'smart punctuation'
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    • J B
    • By J B 29th Jun 18, 4:32 PM
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    If your using an iPad go into settings, keyboard and turn off 'smart punctuation'
    Originally posted by martinthebandit



    But, if you don't have an iDevice, then what???
    • LadyDee
    • By LadyDee 1st Jul 18, 11:44 AM
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    But, if you don't have an iDevice, then what???
    Originally posted by J B
    If you copy and paste from somewhere else it can sometimes happen too.
    • quantumlobster
    • By quantumlobster 2nd Jul 18, 7:14 AM
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    Hi eschaton

    Our developers cover the whole site, not just the Forum and have several other bigger tasks they're working on at the moment. It is in the backlog though and they're aware of it.
    Originally posted by MSE Andrea
    I would have thought "stop the forum software from putting half your forum contributors' posts through a woodchipper" would have been quite high priority.

    I can't imagine how much of a fire-in-a-skip the rest of the site's code must be, if this isn't at the top of the pile
    • Merlin139
    • By Merlin139 2nd Jul 18, 8:10 AM
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    Why not send out along with your weekly E-mail a note to all users of idevices instructions on how to turn off smart punctuation!
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    • J B
    • By J B 2nd Jul 18, 9:57 AM
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    Why not send out along with your weekly E-mail a note to all users of idevices instructions on how to turn off smart punctuation!
    Originally posted by Merlin139

    But, it doesn't just affect iStuff!
    • Reaper
    • By Reaper 6th Jul 18, 3:24 PM
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    It is caused when you use "right single quote", in other words a single quote that that curls backwards.

    Until it can be fixed if it happens in your post do an edit and replace it with a "straight down" quote like this: '
    • J B
    • By J B 6th Jul 18, 10:02 PM
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    It is caused when you use "right single quote", in other words a single quote that that curls backwards.

    Until it can be fixed if it happens in your post do an edit and replace it with a "straight down" quote like this: '
    Originally posted by Reaper

    Sorry - can you say that again in English


    One of the few times it has happened to me ...
    I copied some text from somewhere (can't remember where, sorry) and pasted it into the 'reply' box.


    When it went all '8217', I copied the text into notepad then saved it in there and copied it back into the reply box - it still gave the error, so I let it be as an unreadable mess!
    • Reaper
    • By Reaper 7th Jul 18, 10:33 AM
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    In the above example the first one is likely to fail but the second one is safe
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